Shootings in Paris

[jayblue]

Thousands of Muslims, representatives of Muslim groups and Leaders of Islamic countries took part in the march in Paris and have gone on record to condemn the actions of the Jihadists, you've just chosen not to take any notice.

And yet the apologists still try to blame freedom of expression and the liberal laws that we all enjoy in the west rather than recognising any fault in Islam when clearly Islam spawns far more murdering extremist scumbags than any other religion today and the nutters clearly murder in the name of that religion.

That's the issue and as for suggesting a solution it seems to me that moderate muslims are the only ones who can work out a way as to how to deal with their own religion's extremist problem, and that they need to be seen to be doing so.

Simply suggesting that the rest of us have to change or the problem will get worse [wink] aint gonna cut it.

Yet again you're ignorant of the subject. The Islamic community of a whole have done and are doing everything to combat it, you just choose to ignore it.

And they are doing a great job of it aren't they

 

[Anonymous]

you're right it would have been great to see moderate muslims marching in force to condemn these atrocities

you know, like they do when someone writes summat in a book that they don't like who clearly needs to be murdered as well the absolute swine

Thousands of Muslims, representatives of Muslim groups and Leaders of Islamic countries took part in the march in Paris and have gone on record to condemn the actions of the Jihadists, you've just chosen not to take any notice.

And yet the apologists still try to blame freedom of expression and the liberal laws that we all enjoy in the west rather than recognising any fault in Islam when clearly Islam spawns far more murdering extremist scumbags than any other religion today and the nutters clearly murder in the name of that religion.

That's the issue and as for suggesting a solution it seems to me that moderate muslims are the only ones who can work out a way as to how to deal with their own religion's extremist problem, and that they need to be seen to be doing so.

Simply suggesting that the rest of us have to change or the problem will get worse [wink] aint gonna cut it.

How does a moderate Muslim in the UK stop extremists overseas?.

Or how, other than to condemn these actions, does a moderate Muslim "be seen to be doing so?." (Doing something about it.)

 

[Blue Haze]

Dieudonné arrested over Facebook post on Paris gunman

French comedian accused of justifying terrorism after linking attacker to tribute slogan by writing ‘I feel like Charlie Coulibaly’

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So all that free speech talk lasted less than a week. Joke of a nation.

 

[Anonymous]

Yes I do. Too many cultural differences. It's gonna get worse.

We may as well just sack it off then.

Hopefully our children will intermarry with theirs and laugh at the world as it is now.

Make sure the muslim girls parents are not keen on that noble islamic tradition of honor killing then eh.

Sorry, have any non Muslims ever murdered children?. Even their own sometimes?.

Would you not like your sons/daughters to marry a Muslim?.

 

[Anonymous]

Dieudonné arrested over Facebook post on Paris gunman

French comedian accused of justifying terrorism after linking attacker to tribute slogan by writing ‘I feel like Charlie Coulibaly’

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/14/dieudonne-arrest-facebook-post-charlie-coulibaly-paris-gunman" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... ris-gunman</a>

So all that free speech talk lasted less than a week. Joke of a nation.

This was posted earlier. Sadly most overlooked it.

 

[jayblue]

We may as well just sack it off then.

Hopefully our children will intermarry with theirs and laugh at the world as it is now.

Make sure the muslim girls parents are not keen on that noble islamic tradition of honor killing then eh.

Sorry, have any non Muslims ever murdered children?. Even their own sometimes?.

Would you not like your sons/daughters to marry a Muslim?.

Don't answer. It's a trap

 

[Anonymous]

Make sure the muslim girls parents are not keen on that noble islamic tradition of honor killing then eh.

Sorry, have any non Muslims ever murdered children?. Even their own sometimes?.

Would you not like your sons/daughters to marry a Muslim?.

Don't answer. It's a trap

Which question?, there are 3 questions.

 

[jayblue]

Sorry, have any non Muslims ever murdered children?. Even their own sometimes?.

Would you not like your sons/daughters to marry a Muslim?.

Don't answer. It's a trap

Which question?, there are 3 questions.

The only question that's loaded

 

[mackenzie]

Does anyone else see the similarities and parallels with what happened in the UK 300 years ago (yes, I know it was a long time ago but bear with me).
The Gunpowder Plot.; a disenfranchised younger generation of Catholics looked upon their parents as too accepting of what they perceived to be oppression. They were mostly English born but, for some reason, they saw activism rather than doing nothing as the step to take.
I know it's very different in some ways but I think the ideaology has some similarities

 

[Anonymous]

Don't answer. It's a trap

Which question?, there are 3 questions.

The only question that's loaded

"Don't answer, it's a trap"

If it was, you would be caught right in the middle of it with your response.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Does anyone else see the similarities and parallels with what happened in the UK 300 years ago (yes, I know it was a long time ago but bear with me).
The Gunpowder Plot.; a disenfranchised younger generation of Catholics looked upon their parents as too accepting of what they perceived to be oppression. They were mostly English born but, for some reason, they saw activism rather than doing nothing as the step to take.
I know it's very different in some ways but I think the ideaology has some similarities

Never mind 300 years ago, what about Northern Ireland 40 years ago? A community fed up of what it saw as its second class status and oppression by the ruling class, launched a murderous campaign of shooting and bombing. Many young, disaffected Catholics were either notably sympathetic to the cause or actively took part

 

[jayblue]

Which question?, there are 3 questions.

The only question that's loaded

"Don't answer, it's a trap"

If it was, you would be caught right in the middle of it with your response.

Well done you got me. Doh.

 

[mackenzie]

Does anyone else see the similarities and parallels with what happened in the UK 300 years ago (yes, I know it was a long time ago but bear with me).
The Gunpowder Plot.; a disenfranchised younger generation of Catholics looked upon their parents as too accepting of what they perceived to be oppression. They were mostly English born but, for some reason, they saw activism rather than doing nothing as the step to take.
I know it's very different in some ways but I think the ideaology has some similarities

Never mind 300 years ago, what about Northern Ireland 40 years ago? A community fed up of what it saw as its second class status and oppression by the ruling class, launched a murderous campaign of shooting and bombing. Many young, disaffected Catholics were either notably sympathetic to the cause or actively took part

I completely agree. Was just citing how this kind of behaviour goes back even further.

 

[squirtyflower]

Does anyone else see the similarities and parallels with what happened in the UK 300 years ago (yes, I know it was a long time ago but bear with me).
The Gunpowder Plot.; a disenfranchised younger generation of Catholics looked upon their parents as too accepting of what they perceived to be oppression. They were mostly English born but, for some reason, they saw activism rather than doing nothing as the step to take.
I know it's very different in some ways but I think the ideaology has some similarities

Never mind 300 years ago, what about Northern Ireland 40 years ago? A community fed up of what it saw as its second class status and oppression by the ruling class, launched a murderous campaign of shooting and bombing. Many young, disaffected Catholics were either notably sympathetic to the cause or actively took part

You don't think a little matter of being 'occupied' had something to play in this then?

 

[mackenzie]

Does anyone else see the similarities and parallels with what happened in the UK 300 years ago (yes, I know it was a long time ago but bear with me).
The Gunpowder Plot.; a disenfranchised younger generation of Catholics looked upon their parents as too accepting of what they perceived to be oppression. They were mostly English born but, for some reason, they saw activism rather than doing nothing as the step to take.
I know it's very different in some ways but I think the ideaology has some similarities

Never mind 300 years ago, what about Northern Ireland 40 years ago? A community fed up of what it saw as its second class status and oppression by the ruling class, launched a murderous campaign of shooting and bombing. Many young, disaffected Catholics were either notably sympathetic to the cause or actively took part

You don't think a little matter of being 'occupied' had something to play in this then?

'Occupation' does not have to mean just territorially

 

[TCIB]

We may as well just sack it off then.

Hopefully our children will intermarry with theirs and laugh at the world as it is now.

Make sure the muslim girls parents are not keen on that noble islamic tradition of honor killing then eh.

Sorry, have any non Muslims ever murdered children?. Even their own sometimes?.

Would you not like your sons/daughters to marry a Muslim?.

Non muslims do not kill their own children for dating outside of the religion or even the same religion but a different nuance.
Your starting to sound really stupid now bud tbh.

Your attempt to compare a loon to someone following religious or cultural doctrine is a disgrace.

If i had a daughter and she dated someone with your mentality though i may reconsider ;)

 

[Blue Haze]

Does anyone else see the similarities and parallels with what happened in the UK 300 years ago (yes, I know it was a long time ago but bear with me).
The Gunpowder Plot.; a disenfranchised younger generation of Catholics looked upon their parents as too accepting of what they perceived to be oppression. They were mostly English born but, for some reason, they saw activism rather than doing nothing as the step to take.
I know it's very different in some ways but I think the ideaology has some similarities

Never mind 300 years ago, what about Northern Ireland 40 years ago? A community fed up of what it saw as its second class status and oppression by the ruling class, launched a murderous campaign of shooting and bombing. Many young, disaffected Catholics were either notably sympathetic to the cause or actively took part

Bingo. 9 years ago the Muslim ghettos in France rioted. They didn't take it seriously, and it was back to business as usual.

Which is strange because in places like the US and Britain they are well represented in high paying professions. In France they seem left out completely. As long as this continues, extremists will find recruits.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Does anyone else see the similarities and parallels with what happened in the UK 300 years ago (yes, I know it was a long time ago but bear with me).
The Gunpowder Plot.; a disenfranchised younger generation of Catholics looked upon their parents as too accepting of what they perceived to be oppression. They were mostly English born but, for some reason, they saw activism rather than doing nothing as the step to take.
I know it's very different in some ways but I think the ideaology has some similarities

Well apart from it being 400 years ago not a lot really anyone who commits treason now is lucky the justice systems gone a lot softer.

 

[mackenzie]

Does anyone else see the similarities and parallels with what happened in the UK 300 years ago (yes, I know it was a long time ago but bear with me).
The Gunpowder Plot.; a disenfranchised younger generation of Catholics looked upon their parents as too accepting of what they perceived to be oppression. They were mostly English born but, for some reason, they saw activism rather than doing nothing as the step to take.
I know it's very different in some ways but I think the ideaology has some similarities

Well apart from it being 400 years ago not a lot really anyone who commits treason now is lucky the justice systems gone a lot softer.

Yes, 400 years ago (this is what happens when you hit 50 and time seems shorter lol).

Yet people don't change really and that is what I was trying to say, despite how society may deal with their transgressions.

 

[johnny on the spot]

OH BOY, HERE WE GO.....

French President Francois Hollande has announced that the Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier is ready for use in military operations against Islamic State in Iraq. The warship is to work in cooperation with coalition forces combatting the militants.

In a speech onboard the aircraft carrier on Wednesday, Hollande told military personnel that that the Charlie Hebdo massacre carried out by Islamic extremists last week “justifies the presence of our aircraft carrier.”

"Thanks to the Charles de Gaulle we will have intelligence ... we may also conduct operations in Iraq," Hollande said.


The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is the flagship of the French fleet, and is currently cruising off France’s southern coast in the Mediterranean.

The carrier is the largest Western European warship currently in commission, and is France’s only nuclear-powered surface vessel. The ship can carry 20 to 25 aircraft, including Super Etendard strike fighter jets, Rafale M multirole fighter jets and Aster missiles.

The ship’s deployment, during which it will provide airstrikes against Islamic State militants, is expected to last until May at the earliest.


Since last week’s deadly terrorist attacks in Paris which killed 17, authorities have been tightening security as they continue the search for accomplices to the perpetrators. France has deployed 10,000 troops and 120,000 additional security personnel to sensitive areas including Jewish schools, synagogues and mosques.

In the aftermath of the attacks, 54 people, including four minors, have been arrested for defending terrorism and hate speech. None of those arrested have been linked to the attack. Several, however, have already been convicted under special measures for immediate sentencing.

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