JoeMercer'sWay
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Damocles said:
sorry but the most intelligent people are naturally intelligent, so it must be related.
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sorry but the most intelligent people are naturally intelligent, so it must be related.
Joycee Banercheck
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I still think I'm right.Damocles said:Joycee Banercheck said:If you're clever, well done. If you aren't, work harder.
Intelligence isn't a genetic trait, it comes from a focus on education either from the kid or from the parents.
JoeMercer'sWay
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Joycee Banercheck said:I still think I'm right.Damocles said:Intelligence isn't a genetic trait, it comes from a focus on education either from the kid or from the parents.
"tough shit"....
Joycee Banercheck
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Arf! You're born with it or you aren't. I've got numb mates and clever mates. Wouldn't step out the door with half of the clowns I know.JoeMercer'sWay said:Joycee Banercheck said:I still think I'm right.
"tough shit"....
JoeMercer'sWay said:Damocles said:Intelligence isn't a genetic trait, it comes from a focus on education either from the kid or from the parents.
sorry but the most intelligent people are naturally intelligent, so it must be related.
No, they aren't. There's no part of intelligence that anyone has ever found in the genetic code, it comes from environment.
You are naturally brown eyed. You aren't naturally intelligent.
JoeMercer'sWay
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Damocles said:JoeMercer'sWay said:sorry but the most intelligent people are naturally intelligent, so it must be related.
No, they aren't. There's no part of intelligence that anyone has ever found in the genetic code, it comes from environment.
You are naturally brown eyed. You aren't naturally intelligent.
then everybody is of equal talent and should pick things up at an equal rate as a kid and therefore should be, bar minor variations, equally talented.
Fact is they aren't, because people are naturally better at some things than others, and they then develop that skill.
Messi could have had my left leg at aged 5/6, played on the streets of Argentina and you know what? he'd still be there.
Joycee Banercheck
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I disagree completely. Totally. I've got mates who have degrees and they are thick as fuck.Damocles said:JoeMercer'sWay said:sorry but the most intelligent people are naturally intelligent, so it must be related.
No, they aren't. There's no part of intelligence that anyone has ever found in the genetic code, it comes from environment.
You are naturally brown eyed. You aren't naturally intelligent.
JoeMercer'sWay said:Damocles said:No, they aren't. There's no part of intelligence that anyone has ever found in the genetic code, it comes from environment.
You are naturally brown eyed. You aren't naturally intelligent.
then everybody is of equal talent and should pick things up at an equal rate as a kid and therefore should be, bar minor variations, equally talented.
Fact is they aren't, because people are naturally better at some things than others, and they then develop that skill.
Messi could have had my left leg at aged 5/6, played on the streets of Argentina and you know what? he'd still be there.
No, because your environment from the first second that you are born determines this. Messi's a better footballer than you because he played football more than you did, and learned how to use his short frame in a beneficial way. Hell, if Messi was English, he'd be SWP.
People are smarter than others because they focus on mentally challenging activities more than others during their development stages, which leads into a mental framework which is used to adapting information. Look up Piaget's theory of Cognitive Development; I actually did my dissertation on this.
JoeMercer'sWay
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Damocles said:JoeMercer'sWay said:then everybody is of equal talent and should pick things up at an equal rate as a kid and therefore should be, bar minor variations, equally talented.
Fact is they aren't, because people are naturally better at some things than others, and they then develop that skill.
Messi could have had my left leg at aged 5/6, played on the streets of Argentina and you know what? he'd still be there.
No, because your environment from the first second that you are born determines this. Messi's a better footballer than you because he played football more than you did, and learned how to use his short frame in a beneficial way. Hell, if Messi was English, he'd be SWP.
People are smarter than others because they focus on mentally challenging activities more than others during their development stages, which leads into a mental framework which is used to adapting information. Look up Piaget's theory of Cognitive Development; I actually did my dissertation on this.
one day we'll agree on something.
Joycee Banercheck said:I disagree completely. Totally. I've got mates who have degrees and they are thick as fuck.
You are arguing semantics of intelligence. Nobody said that the education system has anything to do with intelligence, in fact, it is quite the opposite. Also, whilst they may be 'thick as fuck' in a common sense way, they are probably alright at their chosen subject.
There's a story about Einstein in Vienna, and how he used to forget where he lived whilst walking home from work.