Singing End - Would You Relocate?

[Deleted member 14625]

why not SAFE standing in Premier League? It is allowed in Scotland PL and from division one in England.

Is it still this Hillsborough crap that kills the idea? Its been 23 years. Move the fuck on

And it is safer than standing behind seats, much safer!

 

[salfordblues]

why not SAFE standing in Premier League? It is allowed in Scotland PL and from division one in England.

Is it still this Hillsborough crap that kills the idea? Its been 23 years. Move the fuck on

And it is safer than standing behind seats, much safer!

Not sure what difference safe standing would make to the atmosphere. I (along with the rest of the south stand and SS) have not sat down at a game for years and can't remember the last time it caused any issues with stewards.

 

[Why Always Ste]

Someone needs to create a facebook page which people could be organised on, once you have that, through your friends list you can see how big the interest is, then from there you can organise where you would buy tickets in the ground, who would bring drums, flags, banners, who would communicate with MCFC.

Without all of us actually doing something as a collective group we are just a bunch of individual city fans that the club probably wont bother to listen too.

This is what The Blue Alliance is though.
Why create something that's already there.... I just think TBA needs more people involved in it who want this Ultras Movement, or the mindset of many in the section where TBA is based to be changed.

This mindset for me can only change once in a distance from away fans.
With a Capo(s) introduced and new basic songs that anyone can latch onto.

Chants are great and funny, but they don't drift around the stadium as much.

 

[Deleted member 14625]

I'd actually rather have it from 101-111!

 

[Deleted member 14625]

Someone needs to create a facebook page which people could be organised on, once you have that, through your friends list you can see how big the interest is, then from there you can organise where you would buy tickets in the ground, who would bring drums, flags, banners, who would communicate with MCFC.

Without all of us actually doing something as a collective group we are just a bunch of individual city fans that the club probably wont bother to listen too.

This is what The Blue Alliance is though.
Why create something that's already there.... I just think TBA needs more people involved in it who want this Ultras Movement, or the mindset of many in the section where TBA is based to be changed.

This mindset for me can only change once in a distance from away fans.With a Capo(s) introduced and new basic songs that anyone can latch onto.

Chants are great and funny, but they don't drift around the stadium as much.

Or a bigger area than just two lame little efforts either side of the away fans. Hence why i said 101-111 - plus it would look mint on tele being in full view of the cameras all game.

 

[Jnr Kisby]

The Blue Alliance for me just seems a group of lads who know each other, go out on the piss and have given themselves a title.

The Stag Doo of Football...

What a load of bollocks, don't assume things.

For three years I (I who started The Blue Alliance) used to travel to all the City games on my own. I then met Felix. We started going together. We had similar ideas to those that you have posted on here. How could we attract people to get together? Give ourselves a name on the internet so it was easier to organise travel etc.

In the 3 years since it began we have met a lot of like minded people. In fact everyone I travel to games with I didn't know before the takeover. So we're not some clique of about 10 people who thought it would be a cool idea to call ourselves that. And what pisses me off quite a bit is that I've PM'd you before about coming to our meetings etc. because you seem keen, yet I still wouldn't know who you are if you came up to me. We are NOT a closed book.

Everything you've posted on here is things that I've wanted before. Things I've had meeting at the club with at length. Things I've written about. And what it boils down to is this:

!) There is not as much interest as you think for people to be singing for 90 minutes.

2) The club have strict guidelines to keep to from police, council and footballing bodies (UEFA needed to know what size the bags of confetti were going to be last night ffs and we had 50 large flags made up for the QPR game last year - club wouldn't let them in the ground.)

By all means, contact the club, set up meetings and try and feel like your getting somewhere. If you do it then fair play, you've succeeded where I've failed. But be prepared for plenty of faceless people thinking you're a twat who wants attention.

Funnily enough, it's the 4th October today, and on the 2nd October 2009 I wrote this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://mcfctba.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/blue-alliance-fan-revolution-starts.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://mcfctba.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/b ... tarts.html</a>

You are more than welcome to come down to our CD recording we're doing on Saturday night after the Sunderland game, if you've got some new song ideas.

Good post liam. I think if people really want to get behind this they should put their support into the Blue Alliance, there is a framework there but they need more people and more support to get the club to listen.

 

[salfordblues]

[ Hence why i said 101-111 - plus it would look mint on tele being in full view of the cameras all game.

It's much better to have a singing section at the end, see Roma/Lazio/Dortmund/Bayern etc.

This is why I don't like the positioning of the singing section. The south stand "end" should be the focal point of our support.

The introduction of the singing section corner/side took a few South Standers away whereas if we'd have designated 117/118 as the singing section then I think the atmosphere as a whole would be a lot better now.

 

[Manchester33]

Someone needs to create a facebook page which people could be organised on, once you have that, through your friends list you can see how big the interest is, then from there you can organise where you would buy tickets in the ground, who would bring drums, flags, banners, who would communicate with MCFC.

Without all of us actually doing something as a collective group we are just a bunch of individual city fans that the club probably wont bother to listen too.

This is what The Blue Alliance is though.
Why create something that's already there.... I just think TBA needs more people involved in it who want this Ultras Movement, or the mindset of many in the section where TBA is based to be changed.

This mindset for me can only change once in a distance from away fans.
With a Capo(s) introduced and new basic songs that anyone can latch onto.

Chants are great and funny, but they don't drift around the stadium as much.

Well fair enough, I see where your coming from, and I think TBA is doing a great job, I personally go to every game home away and in europe and would love to be involved with them, if we need to set up the framework through them then so be it.

the most important thing is we need a bigger group of fans who are willing to make an atmosphere to rival our european competition!

From previous threads on here though however I have seen that a huge number of people in the SS are not convinced and even hostile towards the thought of us using drums around where they sit, thats where the idea is to have a block of seats for fans who do want this and will join in, otherwise it will be a failure.

 

[cheddar404]

why not SAFE standing in Premier League? It is allowed in Scotland PL and from division one in England.

Is it still this Hillsborough crap that kills the idea? Its been 23 years. Move the fuck on

And it is safer than standing behind seats, much safer!

Not sure what difference safe standing would make to the atmosphere. I (along with the rest of the south stand and SS) have not sat down at a game for years and can't remember the last time it caused any issues with stewards.

You can stand where you want with safe standing though instead of having to plan it at the start of the season.

 

[Why Always Ste]

Rail Standing is definitely needed.

Do City want this? Well they aren't pro-active in getting it in the stadium.

Right now City sell out the stadium (league), they make a killing on Families coming to the game, buying Merchandise & Food.
Those in control would much rather have this type of supporter than the Dortmund Ultras.

The game (more so the Premier league) is an expensive entertainment product right now, whereby you are excluded from supporting City (in the stadium) if you don't have the money.

The average age for our fanbase is quite old. Sure these fans may take their children but when they turn into Adults.... Will many young people just look for alternate forms of entertainment that's cheaper and just watch City on the Tv? they already do.

It would take Rail Standing and lower ticketing prices and or a significant drop in attendance figures before something like the Ultras movement would work.

We can try and get it going, but it is difficult and would be alot easier if we were in Division 2 with £5 tickets/pay on the door with a usually empty stadium.