Sky - Mané Red card poll (official appeal rejected)

manimanc said:
From the fa website.
Rule 12.
Fouls and misconduct.
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The first three subheadings of charges, jumps at and kicks or attempt a kick mane did .
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The rules are spelled out quite clearly. Yes mane didn't intentionally set out to karate kick ederson in the face but he was out of control and was reckless which results in a caution , which in this case was a deserved red.
I'm just watching the match again and the first thing Neville could muster up after the incident was that it was OUR fault as our defence was all over the place.
He moaned and fussed about otamendi and the back 3 all match, he just couldn't get over himself and view the sending off professionally which made him look very amateurish as usually his commentary and views are pretty bob on.
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That may be an older version than this season's. relevant sections are

Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off, [my bolding - note the OR]

Playing in a dangerous manner
Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury. A scissors or bicycle kick is permissible provided that it is not dangerous to an opponent.

A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.

All copied from Law 12 (p95-102):
http://www.eastridingfa.com/~/media...ents/referees/laws-of-the-game-2017-2018.ashx
 
MillionMilesAway said:
That may be an older version than this season's. relevant sections are

Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off, [my bolding - note the OR]

Playing in a dangerous manner
Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury. A scissors or bicycle kick is permissible provided that it is not dangerous to an opponent.

A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.

All copied from Law 12 (p95-102):
http://www.eastridingfa.com/~/media...ents/referees/laws-of-the-game-2017-2018.ashx
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Yep says nothing about a flying karate kick to the side of the head being allowed or being allowed and only getting a yellow for it.
I know it was a red card offence, you know it was a red card offence, why are these so called experts and pundits only saying it should have been a yellow?
Playing devil's advocate? Thick? Don't want to upset the media darlings Liverpool? Or hate city at all costs?
It's as plain as the stud marks down ederson's face, red all day!
By the way has the fact been discussed that Liverpool collapsed like a deck of cards in the second half? No? Didn't think so.
 
City_Sean said:
It's not even a debate. Its a clear red card. Mane isn't malicious, nor is he trying to injure Ederson. The moment Ederson wins that ball he knows he's going to get a whack, Mane has his studs up and it's dangerous and reckless.
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This sums it up for me. The more post i read the more i get the impression that some think he did Ederson on purpose. Thats total bollocks.
 
The best view I heard was the united fan on talkshite that claimed it was ederson fault for being out of control and he should have been sent off!!!!!!.
 
As if any more evidence to support a media agenda were needed. A fucking poll? Was there a poll for the none red cards, for Walker and Sterling? Would there be a poll, if that had been Aguero on Mignolet, or the doughnut thief? Would there fuck, there would have been cries for a lifetime ban, these cnuts are not even being subtle about it now. The bile we've heard these last few days, has been comedy fucking gold. All the while showing zero concern towards Ederson, not to mention how we absolutely spanked the dippers, regardless of the sending off. The way we are portrayed/covered is there in big fuck off neon lights now, no way the bias can be denied. it really is a fuckin joke now, and regardless of fines and such, our club really need to start taking a hard line with it. Also as mad as it sounds, I can see this having an even more negative impact on our games, with regard to refereeing decisions. I think we'll see some shocking decisions go against us, while opponents will get away with even more(if that were possible). The directives will be driven ten fold, so the refs truly know their place, and it's the "big four" cock sucking media at the helm. Almost makes you want to give up on it all, bent cnuts.
 
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