Sky - Mané Red card poll (official appeal rejected)

[Newtoncc]

Mané said most of that on Twitter to be fair. It's Klopp and LFC I have the issue with. Klopp embraced him like a player who had scored the winner in a cup final when he came off, not like a player who had left a fellow professional needing oxygen and a neck brace due to his reckless play. To then appeal the sending off shows the club up.

The fans were a disgrace. Media commentators had a go at Cuty fans for booing Milner. Okay, it's a bit chilish but their fans never get pulled up for the abuse of Sterling or for the booing of the prone Ederson.

or Klopp embraced him like he had scored the winner in the 97th minute and was sent off for celebrating, assumed we appealed that one didn't we?

 

[mardon85]

I guess that depends upon your version of wrongdoing versus legal blame. Legally denouncing the actions of the police, both on the day and afterwards, doesn't negate the actions of those in attendance.

Nothing funny about Hillsborough.

I was there on Saturday. Don't recall Hillsborough being said, do you? As for professional victimhood, I'd say that is accurate, wouldn't you? Or did history only start and end at Hillsborough?

How do you feel about booing a player who is lying prone on the ground after a full force, studs up, straight legged kick in the face? Or, hose claiming it was Ederson in the wrong for coming out and lowering his head?

BTW, all questions are rhetorical, as I know my feelings on each of them and I'm not sure you can change them.

Take care and I'm glad your f-i-l is OK.

I'm not defending Liverpools actions at all and think they deserve all the stick that they get of late. Booing the player was abhorrent behaviour.

My point is plays on words relating to Hillsborough shouldn't be used.

 

[mardon85]

Mixed feelings on the " Always the victims" song. Was it the rags who started it? I think it was a release of anger by our fan's that had been bubbling for a while now and erupted on Saturday. Firstly with the dippers. They have benefitted from a fair few decisions against us lately. On top of that they have thrown every decent gesture and show of respect we have shown them regarding Hillsborough firmly back into our faces with a snarl. We have also had some shit decision's go against us for a while and two this season already.

The scousers are like the young kids in gangs these days who bleat about being shown respect but never give any to others. Their behaviour on Saturday actually took me by surprise. For a minute I was in shock. There was a player, our player who had just taken a powerful kick to the head and was lying unconscious being given oxygen. We didn't know if it was life threatening or broken bones at that stage but it looked grim. Then those fuckers started booing and catcalling. It was behaviour right back in the dark days of the 1970/80's and for a few seconds I was back there too. I wanted to get to the c**** and hurt them badly. When the song started I sang it loud and lustily, everyone did, even the main stand to my left or whatever it is called now. The three thousand or so tossers in that end deserved every hate filled word that was directed at them on Saturday. They were sub human in their actions, like some feral scum. The " Always the victims it's never your fault" was nothing to do with or about Hillsborough on Saturday it was about them behaving like feral scum because something had gone against them for once and their self righteous sense of self importance couldn't take it.

They are not a football club they are a deluded poisonous cult who infect everyone association with them. Millner, Klopp, both reasonable people until they went there and are now as brainwashed and deluded as the rest. They are as one with the rags which is why they hate one another so much. The day both clubs crash and burn into oblivion will be a great day for football and the human race.

Completely agree, it wasn't linked to Hillsborough. I explained this to my Liverpool supporting Mrs's in a similar way when she kicked off. We slept in different rooms that night. I couldn't look at her I was so angry.
The links to Hillsborough are unfortunate with a song which seems very apt these days.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Mané's action was reckless. It wasn't violent. Violence involves some measure of intent. i think he didn't intend to get dour man stretchered off, but reckless play like the example we saw is a red card offence! Too many irrelevancies are being drafted in. The Law could not be clearer, and the sanction could not be clearer. 'Tis a pity that Jones and Friend by their erroneous view of two identical incidents have simply given succour to those who thought Mané should have had a slap on the wrist and then appeared for the second half.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

You craftely worded it as if Liverpool were in someway at fault for Hillsborough. Which is a ****s trick.

No I didn't. I said what I meant. No ****s trick there, unless language is a challenge for you?

Moving on...

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

i'd give Mane an extra game ban just for having the cheek to appeal it.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I'm not defending Liverpools actions at all and think they deserve all the stick that they get of late. Booing the player was abhorrent behaviour.

My point is plays on words relating to Hillsborough shouldn't be used.

I've said what I had to say and stand by it.

Maybe there should be an "e" on the end of your username.

 

[BrianW]

The Laws of Football need to be rewritten to make it "fair".

"In the event of any incident involving a physical collision between a Liverpool player and a player of another team, the non-Liverpool player shall always be held to be at fault*"

*unless it's a Manchester United player, in which case, as you were.

 

[nmc]

Mané's action was reckless. It wasn't violent. Violence involves some measure of intent. i think he didn't intend to get dour man stretchered off, but reckless play like the example we saw is a red card offence! Too many irrelevancies are being drafted in. The Law could not be clearer, and the sanction could not be clearer. 'Tis a pity that Jones and Friend by their erroneous view of two identical incidents have simply given succour to those who thought Mané should have had a slap on the wrist and then appeared for the second half.

Good post and an excellent summary of reckless verses violent. I think it would have gone a long way had Mane gone over to see if Ederson was alright before he left the pitch given how bad the injury initially appeared, maybe Mane was influenced by Klopps gestures of no contact! Klopp behaved like a right idiot on Saturday but seems beyond reproach in our media.

 

[The blue phantom]

No I didn't. I said what I meant. No ****s trick there, unless language is a challenge for you?

Moving on...

As i said its a ****s trick. You were pulled up off a few posters. So next time think abt what you fuckin post instead of being a dick!