Smoke bombs yet again

[awaydayblue]

Encountered similar problems at Napoli away, then at Goodison, where fellow Blues were hit by them, one a young girl. When a flare/smoke bomb/firecracker (whatever they are) one does cause a serious injury or worse, and it will, maybe then something will be done about it. For anyone who thinks it is all a bit of a joke, just check out the flare which hit and killed a person at the Millenium Stadium a few years ago, ring their family up and try convincing them it is all a bit of laugh / harmless fun...................That's my take on the matter, for what it's worth..........

 

[SPIDERBOY]

going back a while from personal experience Shalke & Hamburg and you see fans on tv sat with alcohol in the ground

I understood from people on this site,who were there at the games,that it was NOT beer but non alcoholic drinks.

It was, but quite a few were unaware, some drink such weak beer here they couldn't tell the difference.

European games have been alcohol free for years.

Since the euro's in 2000.......I think......bit of a contradiction really...don't serve it,some clubs were made to get rid of alcoholic sponsors.....and then they have had,amstell,estrella and this year its Heineken sponsoring it.

 

[kinkysleftfoot]

Which games were they then ??

going back a while from personal experience Shalke & Hamburg and you see fans on tv sat with alcohol in the ground

I understood from people on this site,who were there at the games,that it was NOT beer but non alcoholic drinks.

I went to a hamburg home game last year.....no smoke bombs but plenty of beer being served throughout the game!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Alcoholic beer is banned in stadiums in the champs and Europa leagues. This is upheld everywhere. A ridiculous rule.

 

[cleavers]

going back a while from personal experience Shalke & Hamburg and you see fans on tv sat with alcohol in the ground

I understood from people on this site,who were there at the games,that it was NOT beer but non alcoholic drinks.

I went to a hamburg home game last year.....no smoke bombs but plenty of beer being served throughout the game!

Yes, if it was league hame that's fine, but its non alcoholic beer in europe, same as here, except they can drink it in the seats as well.

 

[cibaman]

Alcoholic beer is banned in stadiums in the champs and Europa leagues. This is upheld everywhere. A ridiculous rule.

Apparently not at Lazio when they have a lock in




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[awaydayblue]

I find the notion that those who take their kids to away games with them should be "aware of the risks" quite amusing.

Agreed......"Aware of the risks" had a completely different meaning of course back in the 70's, when being an away fan meant you stood a fairly good chance of getting a kick in simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Golf balls, snooker balls, darts thrown, and that was just from the K Stand at OT. Got a proper good hiding on a train back out of Lime Street en route to Edge Hill, along with a few other Blues, did we ask for it, provoke them, deserve it? Of course we didn't, you didn't dare wear your colours, and your obligatory small round badge was in your pocket as soon as you thought there was going to be mither, it is just what happened back in the day. Away fans were targeted and unless you were in large numbers and armed, you would often end up on the receiving end. Blues stuck together because you had to, it was all about survival back then. Nowadays, I see a clear division in rank of our supporters, and it saddens me if I'm honest. Like others, I didn't let the cuts, the bruises, and the scars in some cases stop me from what I love doing, following City, but seeing the lack of respect shown between some our own fans is disconcerting. Call me old hat, past it, not in touch with modern youth whatever, but we ran the gauntlet for the love of our club, and when I see both sets of fans getting on at games today, I feel a sense of achievement that football fans have come along way, and that what we experienced as kids in our teens is a thing of the past. I can remember genuinely fearing for my life on several occasions back then, I often wonder if any of the ones out to disrupt today would react differently if they found themselves in the position we were at the height of football hooliganism? I just hope what I see today is a passing faze, a form of rebellion which will subside, identity cards anyone?!............Rant over! #mcfctogether

 

[BlueHalli]

Encountered similar problems at Napoli away, then at Goodison, where fellow Blues were hit by them, one a young girl. When a flare/smoke bomb/firecracker (whatever they are) one does cause a serious injury or worse, and it will, maybe then something will be done about it. For anyone who thinks it is all a bit of a joke, just check out the flare which hit and killed a person at the Millenium Stadium a few years ago, ring their family up and try convincing them it is all a bit of laugh / harmless fun...................That's my take on the matter, for what it's worth..........

Was that the one where it was shot across the stadium from a gun ? . If so, fookin el ! Comparing that to a canister that Amit's a bit of smoke !. People just worry too much these days . A few smoke bombs go off and some think it's world war three !.

They're harmless unless thrown towards a person. The same can be said for pretty much anything !. Shall we ban loose change and sets of keys because they can become 'unsafe' in the wrong hands .

 

[cleavers]

They're harmless unless thrown towards a person.

That's part of the issue being raised, they are thrown, or at least rolled down the steps, because the person doing so, doesn't want trouble from the old bill, if one goes off near a kid that is unaware they are a problem, as has been described in the thread, chucking them at the linesman isn't exactly safe either.

 

[BlueHalli]

I find the notion that those who take their kids to away games with them should be "aware of the risks" quite amusing.

Agreed......"Aware of the risks" had a completely different meaning of course back in the 70's, when being an away fan meant you stood a fairly good chance of getting a kick in simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Golf balls, snooker balls, darts thrown, and that was just from the K Stand at OT. Got a proper good hiding on a train back out of Lime Street en route to Edge Hill, along with a few other Blues, did we ask for it, provoke them, deserve it? Of course we didn't, you didn't dare wear your colours, and your obligatory small round badge was in your pocket as soon as you thought there was going to be mither, it is just what happened back in the day. Away fans were targeted and unless you were in large numbers and armed, you would often end up on the receiving end. Blues stuck together because you had to, it was all about survival back then. Nowadays, I see a clear division in rank of our supporters, and it saddens me if I'm honest. Like others, I didn't let the cuts, the bruises, and the scars in some cases stop me from what I love doing, following City, but seeing the lack of respect shown between some our own fans is disconcerting. Call me old hat, past it, not in touch with modern youth whatever, but we ran the gauntlet for the love of our club, and when I see both sets of fans getting on at games today, I feel a sense of achievement that football fans have come along way, and that what we experienced as kids in our teens is a thing of the past. I can remember genuinely fearing for my life on several occasions back then, I often wonder if any of the ones out to disrupt today would react differently if they found themselves in the position we were at the height of football hooliganism? I just hope what I see today is a passing faze, a form of rebellion which will subside, identity cards anyone?!............Rant over! #mcfctogether

The thing is, these people with smoke bombs have no intention of goin around giving people a kicking or goin around in a firm lookin for trouble. That was your day and you were prob gettin stuck in back then and having a good time !. Now those days are gone for the likes of the older bunch and they want to just relax and watch a game of football and expect the younger lot to follow suit . You've had your wild time, fook everyone else .

Younger fans are sick of the way the modern game has gone and they just want to try and liven it up a little by doin things like lettin off smoke bombs . They're bloody harmless !. They ent flares like what killed that lad . Comparing the two is like comparing a sparkler(although a sparkler is prob more halmful than a smoke bomb) to a rocket fire work .