Sneaky increase in ticket prices

I'm about at my limit for season ticket price.
Only renewed this year cos of haaland.
It's just getting to much.
Trouble is if I don't renew so tourist will now fill my seat.
Probably a different one every week.
This is probably what the club want get them in the shop buying over priced shirts and a programme.
I'll drive tomorrow.
Never been in the shop
get a programme delivered for free as my mate works at buxton press who print them.
And I don't spend anything in the ground cos it's a rip off.
Times have changed is there any room for proper fans any more
If you don't renew then someone else will buy your season ticket, hopefully a local or at least a Man City fan rather than a tourist. They need to remove season tickets at the end of the season from people who put them up for re-sale more than a few times (insert your own number) or simply don't turn up. That can't be difficult I'd have thought? It can't be postcode based though as that would discriminate against some supporters unfairly.
 
Yes.

Giving discounted tickets to our young supporters is a start. 16-20 year olds.(for example) Either at College, Uni or starting a job on low pay. They are our future and they are vocal.
I'm sure I'm misreading your post but they already have an Adult, 18-21s, over 65s & under 18s level.
 
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I’m all for cheaper tickets but here’s a few questions I’ve got to inform the business case to Danny, Roel and Soriano:

1. It’s Haaland whose captivating the younger audience and the teams success on the pitch. That needs to be paid for and our match day revenue lags behind other top teams.

2. Why select premium / semi corporate tickets to illustrate price hikes / comparisons. When did the working classes buy these tickets in the good old days. Only when there was nothing else available and on special occasions I guess. I recall as a teenager the only tickets available for a Boxing Day game was on the top tier of the Kippax. City charged £30 odd quid for these tickets a quarter of a century ago and the deal didn’t include a can of pop or sweet FA other than the seat. It was a nil nil bore draw btw.

3. I’ve managed to sort 3 tickets together online for the Everton game (this week) for a Dad and his 2 sons. The price was £90 odd quid in total. Too expensive but not terrible for the Everton game / nearest home match after Christmas.

4. Are these plastics / tourists mainly filling the 10k or so of seats that didn’t get sold out for Cup games. (I know the Vianogo tickets etc are a con). These plastics / tourists also break the tradition of leaving the game 10 minutes early, apparently.

5. Ticket sales across Prem matches and Cup games are as good as they’ve ever been.

6. Dynamic pricing has been introduced so there are cheaper tickets (bought early) in the family stand.Tickets are more expensive for last minute purchases.

7. This forum called for casual workers etc to be paid in full for what would have been match day work but for the pandemic. We listened to you and paid them in full. This money had to be found and paid.

8. You said the atmosphere would be much better when safe standing was introduced. Why are you now saying it’s all about the price of tickets.

Like I said I’m all for cheaper tickets and younger fans going. I’m just pointing out what might be the response from Club officials who don’t support City. They aren’t the Club. We are btw.
Thank you for the last paragraph as I was really struggling to understand your point there :)
 
Shameful. We used to take the piss out of Arsenal and United for stuff like this.

The club don’t give a fuck at all about every day fans.

We’re run brilliantly on the pitch but since Garry Cook was forced out there’s nobody at the club who gives a toss about the fans.
Garry Cook didn't give a toss either, stop trying to rewrite history.
 
Can anyone work out the saving for a season ticket in the 70's and for each decade up to the present for us and a couple of other clubs (to add a control) rather than paying by the game?

In reality that percentage increase should be roughly the same if owners and not just ours weren't taking the piss.
 
I've looked at a comparison between our matchday prices and structure and those of a club with a similar status in Europe. I picked Bayern as like us they win their league regularly and generally reach the later stages of the CL.

First of all, some of the small print.

1. Bayern only sell 50% of their capacity(75k for Bundesliga) as S/Ts, City sell about 75-80%, so there's a greater proportion of tickets available as match purchases.
2. Concessions policy is different - Bayern give 50% discount to u-14s, 65 and over and disabled. However, there is no scaled discount up to 21 as at City, at Bayern you pay full adult price from 14th birthday to 65th birthday. Also, no discounts at all for away supporters.
3. There's a members discount of € 2.50 per ticket but that is usually offset by transaction fees which for a pair of tickets would result in a net extra € 1.00 per ticket (less if more than 2 are bought in one transaction).
4. Bayern do not appear to operate any dynamic or categorised pricing for Bundesliga matches, prices are fixed regardless of the opposition.

Onto the ticket prices.
Cheap standing tickets on level 1 behind each goal for Bundesliga matches are an obvious plus at € 15 for adults. For the rail seating at CL v PSG the price is € 19 in those areas, still a bargain.

I won't list all the various price bands (pdf is at the bottom of the post) but I picked a block similar to my S/T seat in East 303.

Bundesliga € 55, probably less than the mean matchday price for a 303 seat over the season, but not dramatically so.
Champions League, same block, v PSG € 110 ( that's not a typo!).

Draw your own conclusions but to me it seems that having a lower proportion of S/T holders partly allows for lower matchday prices simply by increasing the supply. If City applied the 50% cap on S/Ts there would be around 15,000 more matchday tickets available.

Season tickets at Bayern seem to be a "dead man's shoes" job as I couldn't find any details for general sale of S/Ts or prices.

 
I’m all for cheaper tickets but here’s a few questions I’ve got to inform the business case to Danny, Roel and Soriano:

1. It’s Haaland whose captivating the younger audience and the teams success on the pitch. That needs to be paid for and our match day revenue lags behind other top teams.

2. Why select premium / semi corporate tickets to illustrate price hikes / comparisons. When did the working classes buy these tickets in the good old days. Only when there was nothing else available and on special occasions I guess. I recall as a teenager the only tickets available for a Boxing Day game was on the top tier of the Kippax. City charged £30 odd quid for these tickets a quarter of a century ago and the deal didn’t include a can of pop or sweet FA other than the seat. It was a nil nil bore draw btw.

3. I’ve managed to sort 3 tickets together online for the Everton game (this week) for a Dad and his 2 sons. The price was £90 odd quid in total. Too expensive but not terrible for the Everton game / nearest home match after Christmas.

4. Are these plastics / tourists mainly filling the 10k or so of seats that didn’t get sold out for Cup games. (I know the Vianogo tickets etc are a con). These plastics / tourists also break the tradition of leaving the game 10 minutes early, apparently.

5. Ticket sales across Prem matches and Cup games are as good as they’ve ever been.

6. Dynamic pricing has been introduced so there are cheaper tickets (bought early) in the family stand.Tickets are more expensive for last minute purchases.

7. This forum called for casual workers etc to be paid in full for what would have been match day work but for the pandemic. We listened to you and paid them in full. This money had to be found and paid.

8. You said the atmosphere would be much better when safe standing was introduced. Why are you now saying it’s all about the price of tickets.

Like I said I’m all for cheaper tickets and younger fans going. I’m just pointing out what might be the response from Club officials who don’t support City. They aren’t the Club. We are btw.

I’ll try and answer point 1. My take on it. I might get around to your other points at some point? So many points! :-)

Haaland not only captivates our young audience, he captivates all of us. He’s our super star. A player every City fan wants to watch, young and old. Unfortunately, unless you have a season ticket, have a Citizens Card, or you buy a ticket from a ticket resale site, you’re not going to see Haaland play often. Even if you can buy a match ticket, they aren’t cheap and affordable for many City fans.

Right now.
Everton.
2 tickets in NSL1/the Family stand. Different blocks as there are no tickets together left.
Adult - £57.50.
Under 18 - £30.00.
Total = £87.50.
Add food and drinks for the Adult and Under 18 as a minimum. No travel costs, match programme, souvenir, it’s workout at £100, give or take.

The only tickets left in the FA Cup against Chelsea are in CBL3 and ESL3.

Adult - £40.00.
Under 18 - £25.00.
Total = £65.00

As for paying Haaland.(and the other players) Yes, our match day revenue is behind the other big PL clubs, but our match day revenue only brings in a small overall percentage of our overall annual income. The vast majority of our income, which has increased season upon season is from TV money, CL money, prize money, numerous new sponsorship deals across the board, Summer tours, etc. (City will get a huge one off payment from FIFA for all the City players that played in the World Cup)

What the other big clubs have over us is bigger capacity stadia, which brings in more revenue. United, Arsenal, Spurs. Liverpool will have a bigger capacity stadium next season. Only Chelsea have a smaller capacity stadium, but the new Chelsea owners are looking at redeveloping Stamford Bridge. Newcastle’s capacity is similar to ours, with no room for expansion. City are looking at expanding the North stand. Proposals to be made public early next year. But expanding the North stand will take 2-3 years to finish. Until then demand for season tickets and match tickets will continue to outstrip supply.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, even for Khalddon, Soriano and the other directors. But as I and many others have stated on here, the North stand expansion should have started 3 years ago during Covid. Yes, there would have been issues to resolve like labour, sourcing materials, cost issues, etc. But those issues could have been worked around. If you remember, most construction sites were still open during COVID, with stringent Covid practices in place to keep the construction sites functioning. We’d probably have a 60,000+ capacity stadium by now or by next season. Ready for Pep’s contract extension, and ready for a certain Mr Haaland, that more of our young audience would see and be captivated by.
 
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I have no idea what that means unless you mean extra season tickets? If so then the reason for that is obvious is it not? Hint, there's an expansion thread on here.
If City don't make season tickets available what use are they to those who don't have one. We clearly had the capacity and could have made them available but chose to sell a silver ticket and charge a fortune for the 'big 6' games.

The expansion is 3 years off, are we going to sell no new season tickets for 4 years.
 
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Anyone else noticed that for the Everton home game on NYE prices are now as high as £55.50 and where we got our tickets tier 3 east stand, they are now £57.50 (we got them 2 weeks ago for £55) well £50 with our memberships.

So they’ve added 2.50 to those. Fulham and Brentford have gone from £43 to now £48 in the same blocks.

It is interesting how tickets are now shifting faster they are adding these increases throughout the season.

As for Wolves and Villa in Jan, cheapest seats ss3 and ss1 even family stand all £58!!

I still can’t believe Chelsea home in the caraboa cup has sold out already. Glad I got mine quick!
Kin el, left at the end of Pearce’s horrendous reign and I’m sure tickets used to cost between 25 and 30 pounds depending on the category? Sometimes when the fixtures collided I’d have to buy 3 tickets in one go to be sure of getting them (obviously only early rounds of the cup comps). God knows how I’d do that now and pay for my lad. Have wages gone up the same?
 

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