so the cup scheme then

urmston said:
I could have had a ticket for the final but chose not to.

I don't want anything to do with a system which rewards newer, richer fans at the expense of those who have proven loyalty stretching back decades.

Hahaha. What a load of crap. IT'S PURPOSE IS TO REWARD THOSE WHO COMMIT TO & PRIORITISE THE FA CUP COMPETITION. NOT THOSE WHO ONLY GET INTERESTED WHEN WEMBLEY STADIUM STAGES GAMES. Which bit of this totally fair concept don't you understand???? I give up with some of the idiots on this forum.....
 
Billy Spurdle said:
urmston said:
I could have had a ticket for the final but chose not to.

I don't want anything to do with a system which rewards newer, richer fans at the expense of those who have proven loyalty stretching back decades.

Hahaha. What a load of crap. IT'S PURPOSE IS TO REWARD THOSE WHO COMMIT TO & PRIORITISE THE FA CUP COMPETITION. NOT THOSE WHO ONLY GET INTERESTED WHEN WEMBLEY STADIUM STAGES GAMES. Which bit of this totally fair concept don't you understand???? I give up with some of the idiots on this forum.....

The thing that people like you fail to understand is that only being interested in Wembley Stadium games is not the only reason people won't sign up for the scheme.

What about those that work shifts, those that can't afford it, those that have childcare issues, those that struggle for transport for night games. Theres plenty of reasons why someone wouldn't want to sign up for the scheme, and it amazes me just how many people on here are willing to write these people off.

We should never forget where we came from, and who got us to where we can enjoy cup finals.
 
Billy Spurdle said:
urmston said:
I could have had a ticket for the final but chose not to.

I don't want anything to do with a system which rewards newer, richer fans at the expense of those who have proven loyalty stretching back decades.

Hahaha. What a load of crap. IT'S PURPOSE IS TO REWARD THOSE WHO COMMIT TO & PRIORITISE THE FA CUP COMPETITION. NOT THOSE WHO ONLY GET INTERESTED WHEN WEMBLEY STADIUM STAGES GAMES. Which bit of this totally fair concept don't you understand???? I give up with some of the idiots on this forum.....


I've been interested in City since the promotion in 1966. I've been to most home matches since then.

And lots of away too.

I've been interested longer than most people have been alive.
 
urmston said:
Billy Spurdle said:
urmston said:
I could have had a ticket for the final but chose not to.

I don't want anything to do with a system which rewards newer, richer fans at the expense of those who have proven loyalty stretching back decades.

Hahaha. What a load of crap. IT'S PURPOSE IS TO REWARD THOSE WHO COMMIT TO & PRIORITISE THE FA CUP COMPETITION. NOT THOSE WHO ONLY GET INTERESTED WHEN WEMBLEY STADIUM STAGES GAMES. Which bit of this totally fair concept don't you understand???? I give up with some of the idiots on this forum.....


I've been interested in City since the promotion in 1966. I've been to most home matches since then.

And lots of away too.

I've been interested longer than most people have been alive.
and yet you have posted a lie

the cup scheme is free

and PS i wish i was a whippersnapper but i'm not
 
squirtyflower said:
sneakitawc said:
JamesL said:
Fair is not how I would describe your system. Are you suggesting you could have 4 mates with decent points who could buy a ticket for their mate with hardly any points - just because the "average" is high? BM would need a forum for people points sharing!

my 'fair system' was more to do with the allocation of temporary points to incentivise new attendees whilst also being fair to those who have already shown their 'loyalty'. my idea isn't geared towards benefitting me -- it's just that the current system is so obviously unfair as it works on the basis of 'you only deserve to see city lift a trophy if you've paid us money this year'.

regardless of that, my 'average points total' idea is still fair -- i just think you might have misunderstood it. let's say that you, your dad and uncle want to sit together at an away/cup game. you've got 7,500 points, your dad has got 5,000 and your uncle has got 4,500 (so the average points total is 5,833). the club would stipulate that, to qualify for tickets, individuals must have a minimum of 4,000 points each. it's not flawless, but would increase opportunities for supporters who want to watch city with their friends/family who don't have the same level of points. our current system is too restrictive in that sense. plus, in this day and age, it's not like the guy at the ticket office would have to be einstein and get his pen, paper and calculator out -- he inputs the supporter numbers and gets a green or red light.
yet more bullshit
wtf does the highlighted mean?

are you suggesting city give tickets away?

haven't all seasoncard holders paid some money this year, as well as all BC members

jeez, some people need to think before they post
i'm not suggesting that at all. i'm suggesting that somebody who has spent thousands upon thousands of pounds on season tickets over the years shouldn't find it such a sudden struggle to get tickets to a cup game when somebody who has had a season ticket for a year but is in the cup scheme can practically guarantee themselves a ticket to the semi-final/final.

from what i gather, most people who are pro cup scheme are in it and make assumptions about the loyalty of supporters who aren't. the sole intention of my posts was to show that the current schemes are too heavily weighted towards accommodating newer supporters without paying much thought to the reasons why long-time season ticket holders might not be subscribers.

out of interest, what would be the problem with my temporary points idea?

oh, and jeez...please put your condescending attitude to one side -- it makes you look like a prat.
 
urmston said:
Billy Spurdle said:
urmston said:
I could have had a ticket for the final but chose not to.

I don't want anything to do with a system which rewards newer, richer fans at the expense of those who have proven loyalty stretching back decades.

Admire yr attitude Billy but I couldn't resist.
The cup scheme is solely to make money for the club but City could be a lot worse - 0161 numbers & reasonably priced games at least.
I've written to the club on a few occasions & they do seem to listen to fans concerns.
CTID!
 
sneakitawc said:
squirtyflower said:
sneakitawc said:
my 'fair system' was more to do with the allocation of temporary points to incentivise new attendees whilst also being fair to those who have already shown their 'loyalty'. my idea isn't geared towards benefitting me -- it's just that the current system is so obviously unfair as it works on the basis of 'you only deserve to see city lift a trophy if you've paid us money this year'.

regardless of that, my 'average points total' idea is still fair -- i just think you might have misunderstood it. let's say that you, your dad and uncle want to sit together at an away/cup game. you've got 7,500 points, your dad has got 5,000 and your uncle has got 4,500 (so the average points total is 5,833). the club would stipulate that, to qualify for tickets, individuals must have a minimum of 4,000 points each. it's not flawless, but would increase opportunities for supporters who want to watch city with their friends/family who don't have the same level of points. our current system is too restrictive in that sense. plus, in this day and age, it's not like the guy at the ticket office would have to be einstein and get his pen, paper and calculator out -- he inputs the supporter numbers and gets a green or red light.
yet more bullshit
wtf does the highlighted mean?

are you suggesting city give tickets away?

haven't all seasoncard holders paid some money this year, as well as all BC members

jeez, some people need to think before they post
i'm not suggesting that at all. i'm suggesting that somebody who has spent thousands upon thousands of pounds on season tickets over the years shouldn't find it such a sudden struggle to get tickets to a cup game when somebody who has had a season ticket for a year but is in the cup scheme can practically guarantee themselves a ticket to the semi-final/final.

from what i gather, most people who are pro cup scheme are in it and make assumptions about the loyalty of supporters who aren't. the sole intention of my posts was to show that the current schemes are too heavily weighted towards accommodating newer supporters without paying much thought to the reasons why long-time season ticket holders might not be subscribers.

out of interest, what would be the problem with my temporary points idea?

oh, and jeez...please put your condescending attitude to one side -- it makes you look like a prat.
i shall continue to be condescending if you continue to post contradictory nonsense that shows you to have an ill thought argument
now you're saying its unfair for those who have spent thousands and can't get a ticket

which is it? Are city giving tickets to people who pay more or not???
i care less about points or the cup scheme
i, like many others, joined the cup scheme to watch city play football
it took the hassle out of getting tickets and i paid for a game of footie
long in the tooth seasoncard holders near me never went as near to a cup game this season and i bet, like you, are complaining about others getting tickets before them
they chose not to go, they shouldn't want to now
they showed no commitment
 
GXCity said:
urmston said:
I could have had a ticket for the final but chose not to.

I don't want anything to do with a system which rewards newer, richer fans at the expense of those who have proven loyalty stretching back decades.

This is all to do with FFP. The sheikh doesn't need to fill the stadium to push the club forward. He doesn't need to offer Platinum ST's at £50 more. He does need to increase turnover to meet FF fucking P and you can't blame the club, blame Platini, the Rags, UEFA, Bayern Munich and all of the other scared parties in European football. If they had left things as they were we could have £10 tickets for all cup games, fill the stadium whoever we were playing. We wouldn't need cup schemes etc.

Third parties have fucked it up. Not the club.

They are making the best of things beyond their control and unfortunately some people feel they have been let down.

absolutely bang on the money. I said a bit back platini is to blame for all this stuff.
 

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