So then...Scudamoes comments about the premier league..

[woolleyback blue]

Isn't the most shocking thing about this is that football, in general, in this country, isn't up in arms about his comments. The establishment and the clubs seem to be taking it as read. We haven't had any chairman being outraged or media hacks taking him to task over it. Is football that far gone that bias like this is now accepted??

 

[samharris]

How can some plastic in outer mongolia getting hissy have and effect on the prem??

FFS the last 4 viewing record figures all invole City..

 

[KenTheLandlord]

For someone who's clearly a bright bloke, Pige, you can sometimes assume a somewhat naive stance on matters such as these.

No 'agenda' can ever have total control over events, but rather a guiding hand to meet its own ends.

There are a number of vested interests in unted's enduring hegemony, including but not limited to Sky, the tabloid media and the Premier League.

If a multinational has a particular product or brand which it relies on above all others that is where its resources and time will be most readily diverted, sometimes at the expense of its other brands. It will do what it takes to protect that product as without it, the organisation may struggle to flourish. That doesn't mean that situation cannot be subject to change if the prevailing circumstances shift, but we aren't at that point yet and until we are the Premier League's default position will, entirely naturally, be to advance the interests of united as much as they are able.

-- 28 Mar 2014, 12:13 --

For someone who's clearly a bright bloke, Pige, you can sometimes assume a somewhat naive stance on matters such as these.

No 'agenda' can ever have total control over events, but rather a guiding hand to meet its own ends.

There are a number of vested interests in unted's enduring hegemony, including but not limited to Sky, the tabloid media and the Premier League.

If a multinational has a particular product or brand which it relies on above all others, that is where its resources and time will be most readily diverted, sometimes at the expense of its other brands. It will do what it takes to protect that product as without it, the organisation may struggle to flourish. That doesn't mean that situation cannot be subject to change if the prevailing circumstances shift, but we aren't at that point yet and until we are the Premier League's default position will, entirely naturally, be to advance the interests of united as much as they are able.

I've actually got RSI in my fingers from this thread! ;-)

Until someone shows me brown envelopes, whispers in the night and anything that says 'united must always prevail', (and Scudamore's nonsense is not that), I will continue to believe there is no agenda. Under Fergie, United were as successful as a club will probably ever be over the same period of time, yet under Moyes they are totally the opposite as things stand. Even during Fergie's time though they had slip ups and other teams, such as our selves, went on to win the league and other cups. We weren't allowed to win them in some kind of attempt to not make the agenda obvious, we won them fair and square. United, when successful, also won things fair and square quite simply because they were better, and that points to Taggart.
If we see a sharp rise in United results, iffy decisions for them and against their opponents and Moyes looking equally as clueless as he does now, but for the reason of 'how the fuck are we winning all of a sudden?', I will think that something funny has gone on and the powers that be want United to be in the top 4 or better. Until that though I will believe their success was Fergie-powered, and their decline is because he is no longer there. That is there for all to see.

for the first time since August Utd score 4 in the PL, quite prescient of you.

Uncle Dickie can relax a little now :)

 

[Balti]

Re: Agenda - The motive?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...l-appeal-Premier-League-admits-Scudamore.html

Manchester United slump is harming global appeal of Premier League, admits Scudamore

Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore admits that Manchester United’s struggles this season have damaged the global appeal of the competition.

Considered one of the world’s biggest sporting brands, United have a huge fan-base outside the UK, and their slump since Sir Alex Ferguson was replaced by David Moyes has already affected commercial success.

Speaking during a promotional visit to Johannesburg, Scudamore told Bloomberg: ‘It’s a double-edged sword. When your most popular club isn’t doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places.

'There’s lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again,’ he added. ‘But you have to balance that off against putting on a competition.’

The Premier League are reported to earn around £2.23 billion from the sales of all their overseas rights to live games for the three-year period, 2013 to 2016, with Asia contributing the major share of £941m.

Says it fucking all really................

 

[blueincy]

scudamore out of order

Under examination: Richard Scudamore raised a few eyebrows by saying Manchester United's malaise is hurting the Premier League..

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2592983/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Ferguson-pick-successor-tell-United-stuffed-It-easy-choice.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... hoice.html</a>

 

[IrelandSuperman]

Re: scudamore out of order

Already a thread on this.

 

[blueincy]

Feckin phone, didn't see the thread on this when posted. His biase must be questioned on this, a person in his position shoudn't be saying things like that it goes against the grain. If it wasn't for the Aguero moment and us winning the premier league it would of died on its arse, remember that scud, forgeting that now the TV rights money is in the bank..

 

[inchy14]

Re: scudamore out of order

Under examination: Richard Scudamore raised a few eyebrows by saying Manchester United's malaise is hurting the Premier League..

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2592983/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Ferguson-pick-successor-tell-United-stuffed-It-easy-choice.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... hoice.html</a>

What the fuck is Faye Dunaway doing in that picture in front of Slurgie?

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: scudamore out of order

Under examination: Richard Scudamore raised a few eyebrows by saying Manchester United's malaise is hurting the Premier League..

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2592983/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Ferguson-pick-successor-tell-United-stuffed-It-easy-choice.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... hoice.html</a>

What the fuck is Faye Dunaway doing in that picture in front of Slurgie?

Looking better in comparison.

 

[mat]

Re: scudamore out of order

Under examination: Richard Scudamore raised a few eyebrows by saying Manchester United's malaise is hurting the Premier League..

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2592983/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Ferguson-pick-successor-tell-United-stuffed-It-easy-choice.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... hoice.html</a>

Here is what hurts the Premier League. When the chief executive of the Premier League says that Manchester United’s poor form hurts the Premier League. That’s what hurts the Premier League.

He is usually a smart cookie, Richard Scudamore, so what was he thinking? There are enough conspiracy theories flying around as it is, without giving the impression that the man in charge is sitting in his office calculating ways to get Manchester United back in the mix.

In an interview with La Stampa on December 29, 2008, Michel Platini said that, as UEFA president, he would love to give the trophy to his old club Juventus. He described himself as a Juventino.
We expect little more from Platini; he’s not the brightest, but Scudamore must surely know the potential for harm in his words.
Under examination: Richard Scudamore raised a few eyebrows by saying Manchester United's malaise is hurting the Premier League

Hard times: Champions Manchester United are 17 points off leaders Liverpool

Referees, by definition, like and respect authority. In the days when the royal family and senior government ministers sat side by side in the royal box at the Bernabeu stadium, visiting teams thought it very hard to get decisions against Real Madrid.

Even if Scudamore does not carry the same cachet as a king, his words still have resonance, even sub-consciously. Referees now understand it is in some way good for business if Manchester United thrive. We will never know if that suppressed notion has surfaced the next time United get a soft penalty.

Even if the referees are immune to it, the fans are not. They already suspect that many of Manchester United’s 20 titles were part of an elaborate conspiracy involving Sir Alex Ferguson, Howard Webb and any official who ever gave a contentious decision at Old Trafford post-1991. To hear that the chief executive of the Premier League in part regrets Manchester United’s failing campaign is exactly what they have long presumed.

Then and now: UEFA president Michel Platini has admitted a fondness for his former club Juventus

Not that Scudamore’s take is wrong. Manchester United are the biggest club brand in English football and as such operate as the flagship for the Premier League in the same way that Bayern Munich’s power and success promotes the Bundesliga. El Clasico in Spain would not carry the same prestige and worldwide resonance, and therefore not be of as much worth to La Liga, if Real Madrid and Barcelona were battling it out for seventh place.

Fine, we know this; just don’t say it if you are in a position of influence within the competition. And, if you do, don’t be surprised if the next time Chelsea have a tough away fixture kicking off at 12.45pm after an important tie in Europe, while Manchester United are at home to a relegation candidate on the Sunday, outlandish conspiracy theories fill the airwaves.

Didn’t the chief executive of the Premier League say it helped when Manchester United were successful? Yes he did. Incredibly, he did.

He's not wrong.