so this agenda thing.

[George Hannah]

Fucking hell, Wilf, just when I thought I couldn't feel any worse.

you think we've got problems?

Just when relations between the two clubs appeared to be as fractious as imaginable, a pre-match diplomatic incident involving a former Manchester United winger tipped this bitter rivalry into Cold War territory.
Zoran Tosic, once (wrongly) tipped for great things at Old Trafford by Sir Alex Ferguson, had been set to face City in this Group E fixture until his visa was deemed invalid at Border Control when CSKA landed in Manchester on Tuesday afternoon.
With the two clubs already at odds, Tosic’s treatment at Manchester Airport sent the Russians into a rage.
The player was told he was not only unable to play against City, but also that he would not be allowed to attend the game.
“Initially there was a discrepancy and he was issued not a tourist visa, but a transit visa,” said CSKA general manager Roman Babaev.
“The English consulate advised that Serbs do not really need a tourist visa, but the English border guards showed some over-adherence to the rules and found on the internet that he is a CSKA player, and felt that he had come to England to work.
“They demanded a work visa, which is impossible and unacceptable. They seized his passport, which is also the first time in our experience that a passport of a citizen of another country has been confiscated.
“The English migration service has received several requests from the Serbian consulate in England and the Russian embassy in England.
“They considered the matter at length and in the end, not only did he not go to the match, he was even forbidden to be a spectator and they demanded that he leave the territory of Manchester before the match.
“Will we submit a protest? English people still can’t calm down, but I think there is already no sense in it, because it already won’t affect the result, but it’s not very pleasant. I am sure that this would not happen in any other European country.”
Up in the boardroom, the stunt pulled by the CSKA officials last season, when they attended a pre-match banquet in jeans, trainers and tracksuit tops in protest at City’s reaction to the racist abuse directed at Yaya Toure in Moscow last year, would have ensured a thickening of the permafrost between the clubs. At least they could talk about the price of oil.
Finding common ground in the Champions League is proving difficult for everybody connected to City, but they still live in hope of qualification and, if they can pull it off, that might be the moment when they finally get it.

 

[bluemc1]

not into the agenda thing but was amazed that i the post match TV they didn't once mention the ref failed to book the right man and send the man off, that would have been 10 v 10 for what 10-15 mins ? also they never showed the Aquero "Dive" or the one after that when 2 players seemed to take him out, they never showed that one during the game so i was waiting to see it, never happened

 

[bitsmith]

The fact is that we are in awful form and crisis of both football we play and results, but it's fact too that even with that awful crisis going we'd still have at least 7 points from these 4 CL games if not robbed by referees.

Shocking that UEFA sent rookie ref for last night game after obvious robbing we had in three previous games. In such situations you always get either strong referee or even compensation with some ref decisions in your next games. But not with City, UEFA has sadistic need to torture us.

 

[RyanP3609]

not into the agenda thing but was amazed that i the post match TV they didn't once mention the ref failed to book the right man and send the man off, that would have been 10 v 10 for what 10-15 mins ? also they never showed the Aquero "Dive" or the one after that when 2 players seemed to take him out, they never showed that one during the game so i was waiting to see it, never happened

Yep, they completely glossed over any of that. They showed the Clichy "handball", and Quinn actually said "I think it was a penalty" before Redknapp had to correct and tell him a freekick was given and he didn't think it was one. How a freekick can be given when you have the ball smacked at you from less than 2 yards away is a joke. What got me, throughout the game, was that the ref would take what seemed to be 4/5 seconds to decide what to do, almost like someone was in his ear (Like the lino/4th official)?

Obviously that could be whilst he makes the decision himself, but at first for the Clichy handball he doesn't appear to be giving it, then slowly runs over as plays stopped and decides to give it. Same for the Yaya sending off. He was probably just taking his time to make the wrong decision (for the handball).

Also, he booked Aguero for a dive (which wasn't one in my op), yet allowed their striker to dive in the middle of the park and just told him to get up. For Yaya's sending off didn't book the CSKA player he pushed for blocking him (who moved into his path), yet booked Ferny straight away for standing still (not sure what he could of done there as if Ferny would have moved, the diving **** would have too and still gone down, so he didn't stand a chance).

Yet again Doumbia dived the whole fucking game and was given freekick after freekick, their number 2 did three two-footed challenges on Milner that were ignored.

Ignoring the booking of the wrong player (which going back to my point of taking his time/speaking to a 4th official, surely one of the 5 officials saw who the player was?).

We were woeful, the worst I've seen us play for a long time, however it's no wonder Yaya (and Nasri) lost it, I'd have fucking lost it if I'm playing a game against a bent official who can't even get the simplest things right like booking the correct player (as there was no-one else round when he pulled Aguero back).

 

[Tom_mcfc]

The ref didn’t book the wrong player, the player he booked booted the ball away after the foul. The ref at no point was booking for the foul which would have been the softest yellow ever if he gave it. The ref was turd, we was turd. If the ref does his job right in our games in the champions league we may have more points however we can’t perform consistently shite as we have done. In all honesty don’t want to progress playing like that, we have no chance of winning it.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

We deserve everything that's thrown at us off the press this week after that fuckin debacle last night.

And we deserve the refs we are getting?

No but we all know they are bent as fuck-Should be good enough to get out this group but clearly we are not

 

[City1974]

Here they go again, as sure as night follows day, its City bashing time again.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blog...he-club-was-sold-off-long-ago--080921225.html

Lets face it, to just have limited negative press we would have to win every game playing the best football ever and scoring a hat full of goals, otherwise its:

"Bunch of mercenaries"
"Most expensive flops ever"
"Full of empty seats, no support, no atmosphere in the stadium"
"Cant fill their stadium so why are they extending it"
"Club with no soul"
"Club in crisis"
"Never going to be a big team"

etc etc

 

[BobKowalski]

Here they go again, as sure as night follows day, its City bashing time again.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blog...he-club-was-sold-off-long-ago--080921225.html

Lets face it, to just have limited negative press we would have to win every game playing the best football ever and scoring a hat full of goals, otherwise its:

"Bunch of mercenaries"
"Most expensive flops ever"
"Full of empty seats, no support, no atmosphere in the stadium"
"Cant fill their stadium so why are they extending it"
"Club with no soul"
"Club in crisis"
"Never going to be a big team"

etc etc

Yep. 2010 called. It wants its narrative back.

Its tedious, uninformed bollocks but hey if that's the price we pay for league titles and domestic cups I'll happily shell out.

 

[nowantads]

Here they go again, as sure as night follows day, its City bashing time again.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blog...he-club-was-sold-off-long-ago--080921225.html

Lets face it, to just have limited negative press we would have to win every game playing the best football ever and scoring a hat full of goals, otherwise its:

"Bunch of mercenaries"
"Most expensive flops ever"
"Full of empty seats, no support, no atmosphere in the stadium"
"Cant fill their stadium so why are they extending it"
"Club with no soul"
"Club in crisis"
"Never going to be a big team"

etc etc

Don't read anything on yahoo. Their writers are mostly chelsea fans so they take piss whenever they can. From bits I've read they're worse than dailymail!

 

[moomba]

The ref didn’t book the wrong player, the player he booked booted the ball away after the foul.

The player that booted the ball away (no 42) wasn't booked (no 4).

The ref at no point was booking for the foul which would have been the softest yellow ever if he gave it.

It was a nailed on bookable offence.