so this agenda thing.

[Len Rum]

OK fetlocks let's cut the crap.
You said you've never disputed 'bias'
So I assume you're disputing 'agenda'.
Could you please enlighten us as to why?

I'd give up while you ahead.
I don't understand these city fans who can't see the media agenda yet take pleasure from trying to argue against it...you'd be put up against a wall and shot as a traitor in WWI for that that sort of behaviour!!

I think all but the most delusional city fan has conceded that there is a bias across most of the media, but for the odd pockets of virtue. (Martin Samuel being the most notable exception)

I think the disagreement now boils down to what can be classed as an 'agenda' and whether the bias that we see in the media, within governing bodies and through FFP constitutes an agenda.

And therein lies the rub Blue Mooner.
A definition of agenda 'the underlying intentions or motives of a particular person or group'. You can easily make this fit an argument that there is an agenda against City but it's not quite as simple as that.
If you don't mind I'll return to this tomorrow. I'm a bit pissed at the moment.

 

[manimanc]

I wonder if sky shown the table today?
this time last year after they beat Swansea 4-1 they couldn`t wait to tell all and sundry that the rags was top...
no agenda though,maybe they`ve just forgot this time...

 

[City Glory While Others Fade]

OK fetlocks let's cut the crap.
You said you've never disputed 'bias'
So I assume you're disputing 'agenda'.
Could you please enlighten us as to why?

I'd give up while you ahead.
I don't understand these city fans who can't see the media agenda yet take pleasure from trying to argue against it...you'd be put up against a wall and shot as a traitor in WWI for that that sort of behaviour!!

I think all but the most delusional city fan has conceded that there is a bias across most of the media, but for the odd pockets of virtue. (Martin Samuel being the most notable exception)

I think the disagreement now boils down to what can be classed as an 'agenda' and whether the bias that we see in the media, within governing bodies and through FFP constitutes an agenda.

Look at the recent misquoting of City signing up it's big stars on long term contracts....originally reported as it was in the media....then at the pre-game press interview Pellers was quizzed by 2-3 of the hacks about whether Yaya would be offered a new contract....Pellers quite rightly swerved the question....The following press announcements were all about Yaya not being offered a new contract...100% this was a pre-arranged agenda between the press to unsettle the player and has been caught on video and in the press in the last 2 days..proof positive of an organised agenda!!!

 

[Ford Prefect]

Are we talking Colin Bell when it comes to Nijinsky?

I can't believe all the pages I read on this thread.

Dad died in June and supported City all his life.

 

[Ric]

Just finished watching MOTD, and in the "back pages" section at the end every newspaper they showed was pretty scathing about United, and Lineker was taking the piss a bit too. They're clearly not unconditionally sycophantic about the rags. There would've been uproar with some on here if it was City.

 

[Balti]

Just finished watching MOTD, and in the "back pages" section at the end every newspaper they showed was pretty scathing about United, and Lineker was taking the piss a bit too. They're clearly not unconditionally sycophantic about the rags. There would've been uproar with some on here if it was City.

too fucking right!

the barstards.......

 

[City Glory While Others Fade]

For me the clearest indication that there's a planned agenda was the recent articles on City signing up it's best players on long term contracts. Originally this was reported as it happened as each player got signed up, then in Pellers pre-match interview a couple of the hacks pressed him on whether Yaya would be getting a new contract. Pellers swerved the question and straight after the reports in mirror, telegraph, independent, mail and sun on this topic were that Yaya would not to be offered a new contract.

It was a planned and deliberate attempt by a number of papers to destabilise the player by misrepresenting the club and a number of the journo's had got together to do it.....Clear Agenda and collusion by the press and the evidence is on the city site and the papers online sites for all to see.

 

[Blueknows]

feck em anyway , Yaya has still got 2 years and 10 months left on his current contract and will be 34 ? by the time his current deal runs out why would we offer him a new deal ?

 

[Ric]

I'd give up while you ahead.
I don't understand these city fans who can't see the media agenda yet take pleasure from trying to argue against it...you'd be put up against a wall and shot as a traitor in WWI for that that sort of behaviour!!

I think all but the most delusional city fan has conceded that there is a bias across most of the media, but for the odd pockets of virtue. (Martin Samuel being the most notable exception)

I think the disagreement now boils down to what can be classed as an 'agenda' and whether the bias that we see in the media, within governing bodies and through FFP constitutes an agenda.

Look at the recent misquoting of City signing up it's big stars on long term contracts....originally reported as it was in the media....then at the pre-game press interview Pellers was quizzed by 2-3 of the hacks about whether Yaya would be offered a new contract....Pellers quite rightly swerved the question....The following press announcements were all about Yaya not being offered a new contract...100% this was a pre-arranged agenda between the press to unsettle the player and has been caught on video and in the press in the last 2 days..proof positive of an organised agenda!!!

Ha, not sure that's positive proof of an agenda. It is strange though. Having seen Pellegrini's press conference, he alludes more to Toure getting a new contract than not.

Maybe they were briefed off tape that there were no plans to extend his contract, which would make sense as he is 31 and has three years left on his current deal. Hart, Milner and Dzeko are more pressing issues in terms of contracts.

 

[City Glory While Others Fade]

I think all but the most delusional city fan has conceded that there is a bias across most of the media, but for the odd pockets of virtue. (Martin Samuel being the most notable exception)

I think the disagreement now boils down to what can be classed as an 'agenda' and whether the bias that we see in the media, within governing bodies and through FFP constitutes an agenda.

Look at the recent misquoting of City signing up it's big stars on long term contracts....originally reported as it was in the media....then at the pre-game press interview Pellers was quizzed by 2-3 of the hacks about whether Yaya would be offered a new contract....Pellers quite rightly swerved the question....The following press announcements were all about Yaya not being offered a new contract...100% this was a pre-arranged agenda between the press to unsettle the player and has been caught on video and in the press in the last 2 days..proof positive of an organised agenda!!!

Ha, not sure that's positive proof of an agenda. It is strange though. Having seen Pellegrini's press conference, he alludes more to Toure getting a new contract than not.

Maybe they were briefed off tape that there were no plans to extend his contract, which would make sense as he is 31 and has three years left on his current deal. Hart, Milner and Dzeko are more pressing issues in terms of contracts.

Why would Pellers swerve the question on camera and then have them briefed after, that's not the way he operates.

They definitely misquote Pellers and it's not just 1 or 2 papers either...I believe it was done to upset Yaya and expect more of this over the coming months...it's all in the 2nd part of Pellers pre-match interview and there asking about cake gate and Yaya then a couple slip in the sneaky question. I don't mind the bias reporting, that is understandable if a paper has sponsorship and wants to report more on one club than the other. The mis representation of the facts is another thing, an agenda which is not acceptable!!

 

[Ric]

Look at the recent misquoting of City signing up it's big stars on long term contracts....originally reported as it was in the media....then at the pre-game press interview Pellers was quizzed by 2-3 of the hacks about whether Yaya would be offered a new contract....Pellers quite rightly swerved the question....The following press announcements were all about Yaya not being offered a new contract...100% this was a pre-arranged agenda between the press to unsettle the player and has been caught on video and in the press in the last 2 days..proof positive of an organised agenda!!!

Ha, not sure that's positive proof of an agenda. It is strange though. Having seen Pellegrini's press conference, he alludes more to Toure getting a new contract than not.

Maybe they were briefed off tape that there were no plans to extend his contract, which would make sense as he is 31 and has three years left on his current deal. Hart, Milner and Dzeko are more pressing issues in terms of contracts.

Why would Pellers swerve the question on camera and then have them briefed after, that's not the way he operates.

They definitely misquote Pellers and it's not just 1 or 2 papers either...I believe it was done to upset Yaya and expect more of this over the coming months...it's all in the 2nd part of Pellers pre-match interview and there asking about cake gate and Yaya then a couple slip in the sneaky question. I don't mind the bias reporting, that is understandable if a paper has sponsorship and wants to report more on one club than the other. The mis representation of the facts is another thing, an agenda which is not acceptable!!

Because Pellegrini just does the press conference and then is done with it. Seems perfectly plausible that a press officer, off camera, says there are no plans to extend Toure's contract. An agenda that does not make.

 

[City Glory While Others Fade]

Ha, not sure that's positive proof of an agenda. It is strange though. Having seen Pellegrini's press conference, he alludes more to Toure getting a new contract than not.

Maybe they were briefed off tape that there were no plans to extend his contract, which would make sense as he is 31 and has three years left on his current deal. Hart, Milner and Dzeko are more pressing issues in terms of contracts.

Why would Pellers swerve the question on camera and then have them briefed after, that's not the way he operates.

They definitely misquote Pellers and it's not just 1 or 2 papers either...I believe it was done to upset Yaya and expect more of this over the coming months...it's all in the 2nd part of Pellers pre-match interview and there asking about cake gate and Yaya then a couple slip in the sneaky question. I don't mind the bias reporting, that is understandable if a paper has sponsorship and wants to report more on one club than the other. The mis representation of the facts is another thing, an agenda which is not acceptable!!

Because Pellegrini just does the press conference and then is done with it. Seems perfectly plausible that a press officer, off camera, says there are no plans to extend Toure's contract. An agenda that does not make.

Maybe Listen to the press conference again and check the nature of the questions all related to Yaya coming from different parts of the room...with questions answered and then asked again by others...the agenda is the deliberate change in the way this story was originally reported from a positive City sign up xyz to Yaya won't be offered a new contract. Pellers covered this direct question twice in his press conference yet the stories deliberately misquote Pellers.

You choose to think someone from City may have confirmed off camera what Pellers wasn't willing to on camera...that's your perogative, I believe the whole point of a press conference is so that all can hear what the clubs official stance is on a subject. Knowing the quiet way in which the club wants to conduct itself these days I find it hard to believe that city media peeps are separately briefing press. What I'm saying is I choose to believe what I hear and see especially when it comes believing your own against a press who have no wish for City to be successful.

Bias reporting is a papers perogative...an agenda driven set of questions to destabilise a player that's reported in spite of the information provided by the club is an agenda which is not acceptable. The press conference and subsequent reporting followed a pre-planned agenda by multiple media outlets.

 

[Ric]

The press are always looking for the sensational story. Suggesting Toure hasn't been offered a new contract sells more papers/gets more clicks than reporting the signed deals for Silva, Kompany and Aguero. We may not like it, but it's the way it's always been and always will be. It's not a sinister agenda against City.

 

[momo88]

The press are always looking for the sensational story. Suggesting Toure hasn't been offered a new contract sells more papers/gets more clicks than reporting the signed deals for Silva, Kompany and Aguero. We may not like it, but it's the way it's always been and always will be. It's not a sinister agenda against City.

for sure the press nowadays (almost everywhere in the world) in just about the buzz a bullshit headlines

as for toure even if its right City is a football club not a charity club, the players were offred 5 years cause they are younger than him and earn less

 

[Blue Mooner]

Look at the recent misquoting of City signing up it's big stars on long term contracts....originally reported as it was in the media....then at the pre-game press interview Pellers was quizzed by 2-3 of the hacks about whether Yaya would be offered a new contract....Pellers quite rightly swerved the question....The following press announcements were all about Yaya not being offered a new contract...100% this was a pre-arranged agenda between the press to unsettle the player and has been caught on video and in the press in the last 2 days..proof positive of an organised agenda!!!

Ha, not sure that's positive proof of an agenda. It is strange though. Having seen Pellegrini's press conference, he alludes more to Toure getting a new contract than not.

Maybe they were briefed off tape that there were no plans to extend his contract, which would make sense as he is 31 and has three years left on his current deal. Hart, Milner and Dzeko are more pressing issues in terms of contracts.

Why would Pellers swerve the question on camera and then have them briefed after, that's not the way he operates.

They definitely misquote Pellers and it's not just 1 or 2 papers either...I believe it was done to upset Yaya and expect more of this over the coming months...it's all in the 2nd part of Pellers pre-match interview and there asking about cake gate and Yaya then a couple slip in the sneaky question. I don't mind the bias reporting, that is understandable if a paper has sponsorship and wants to report more on one club than the other. The mis representation of the facts is another thing, an agenda which is not acceptable!!

Exactly, if there is not collusion amongst the media how can a number of papers simultaneously misinterpret a very clear swerving of the issue from Pellers into one that states we will not be offering him a new contract?

 

[citymad]

The sole purpose in that interview was to stir up a headline. They know this is vulnerable topic and that we heavily rely on Yaya for this seasons success. If they can rock the boat and get a reaction from Yaya then more headlines may come from it. It's the way the parasites work. I'm surprised yet again that our press officer would allow more than one question on the matter.

 

[City Glory While Others Fade]

The sole purpose in that interview was to stir up a headline. They know this is vulnerable topic and that we heavily rely on Yaya for this seasons success. If they can rock the boat and get a reaction from Yaya then more headlines may come from it. It's the way the parasites work.

100% agree and that kind of behaviour is not bias but a clear and calculated agenda to disrupt an important player by stirring up a story that was not supported by the club. City and Yaya responded to this point weeks ago and it was a closed subject, then it gets raised as a side issue by multiple reporters and when they don't get the answer they're looking for print lies anyway.

 

[tonea2003]

For me the clearest indication that there's a planned agenda was the recent articles on City signing up it's best players on long term contracts. Originally this was reported as it happened as each player got signed up, then in Pellers pre-match interview a couple of the hacks pressed him on whether Yaya would be getting a new contract. Pellers swerved the question and straight after the reports in mirror, telegraph, independent, mail and sun on this topic were that Yaya would not to be offered a new contract.

It was a planned and deliberate attempt by a number of papers to destabilise the player by misrepresenting the club and a number of the journo's had got together to do it.....Clear Agenda and collusion by the press and the evidence is on the city site and the papers online sites for all to see.

do you really think they got together before hand and said lets ask pellegrini about yaya and his contract and if he doesn't specifically say hes getting a new one we will print he isn't getting one

you don't know what is said behind closed doors at the club, for all we know they might be laughing their socks off at it all

and if it is an effort to destabilise players and club it clearly isn't working

bias clearly evident but planned agendas just not sure

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

For me the clearest indication that there's a planned agenda was the recent articles on City signing up it's best players on long term contracts. Originally this was reported as it happened as each player got signed up, then in Pellers pre-match interview a couple of the hacks pressed him on whether Yaya would be getting a new contract. Pellers swerved the question and straight after the reports in mirror, telegraph, independent, mail and sun on this topic were that Yaya would not to be offered a new contract.

It was a planned and deliberate attempt by a number of papers to destabilise the player by misrepresenting the club and a number of the journo's had got together to do it.....Clear Agenda and collusion by the press and the evidence is on the city site and the papers online sites for all to see.

do you really think they got together before hand and said lets ask pellegrini about yaya and his contract and if he doesn't specifically say hes getting a new one we will print he isn't getting one

you don't know what is said behind closed doors at the club, for all we know they might be laughing their socks off at it all

and if it is an effort to destabilise players and club it clearly isn't working

bias clearly evident but planned agendas just not sure

Nothing said at that conference to create that headline so 2 choices
A.briefed off camera ? Then press run with embargoed info ?
B.press invent headline ? But seems strange they ALL run with it ?
On yaya have stated this view before something changed dramatically over summer from unhappy to " everything is OK now " he's been promised something for sure to change his stance .if we were seen to give a fresh deal so soon it would appear we were an easy touch .but I suspect we have givern him one to be announced last hence his change in attitude

 

[Bill]

I'd give up while you ahead.
I don't understand these city fans who can't see the media agenda yet take pleasure from trying to argue against it...you'd be put up against a wall and shot as a traitor in WWI for that that sort of behaviour!!

I think all but the most delusional city fan has conceded that there is a bias across most of the media, but for the odd pockets of virtue. (Martin Samuel being the most notable exception)

I think the disagreement now boils down to what can be classed as an 'agenda' and whether the bias that we see in the media, within governing bodies and through FFP constitutes an agenda.

Look at the recent misquoting of City signing up it's big stars on long term contracts....originally reported as it was in the media....then at the pre-game press interview Pellers was quizzed by 2-3 of the hacks about whether Yaya would be offered a new contract....Pellers quite rightly swerved the question....The following press announcements were all about Yaya not being offered a new contract...100% this was a pre-arranged agenda between the press to unsettle the player and has been caught on video and in the press in the last 2 days..proof positive of an organised agenda!!!

yep. clear as day.
on the uefa agenda, all they had to do was dream up ffp and impliment it when chelsea got rich. nobody could have complained as they were suddendly rich and had an unfair advantage. they went after trophy after trophy and acumilated the amount of status, funds, and co efficients to then kick on. then up pops us, we become loaded,we then are directly competing with the cash cow of all time. whoosh, ffp gets invented and with glee implimented.
so whether the totally deluded like it or not the agenda, and if you like bias, is clearly there.