so this agenda thing.

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Tueart1976 said:
I just love how Ogden tries his best to navigate around mentioning the champions of England:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...t-of-footballs-breakthrough-into-the-USA.html

Manchester United v Real Madrid: 109,000 sell-out highlights extent of football's breakthrough into the USA
The World Cup broke new ground but now Premier League giants, led by Louis van Gaal's side, are making big inroads into America

Manchester United's clash with Real Madrid highlights the extent of football's breakthrough into the United States
By Mark Ogden, Michigan 11:40AM BST 01 Aug 2014 Comments 157 Comments

In the end, the United States could not quite become the story of the World Cup in Brazil, falling in the second round rather than breaking new ground in the latter stages, but Jurgen Klinsmann knew that a bridge had been crossed.

"You cannot stop it anymore," the German coach of the Americans said. "The sport is breaking through in the United States and is coming through at every level. This is a cool moment, but we have to take advantage of it."

When Manchester United face Real Madrid in front of 109,000 spectators in Ann Arbor, Michigan, on Saturday, Klinsmann will be able to point to what will be the biggest attendance for a soccer game in the States as evidence of his assertion that football - the original version - is now the real deal in a sporting landscape dominated by the big four of NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball and ice hockey.

And if results go to form in the final round of International Challenge Cup games, Miami's 76,000-capacity Sun Life Stadium will host a Manchester derby in Monday's final, or a clash between United and Liverpool - both of which would give a sense of now to Richard Scudamore's controversial 2008 vision of a 39th Premier League fixture.

“It would be a big deal here if United were to play City or Liverpool in Miami,” claimed Robbie Mustoe, the former Middlesbrough midfielder now working as lead soccer analyst for NBC, the Premier League rights holders in the States.

“We broadcast all 380 Premier League games last season and the viewing figures were incredible. The Premier League is bigger than ever here.

“United have a huge fan base here. Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham also have big followings and broadcasters have noticed there is a growing audience for Premier League games on Saturday and Sunday mornings.”

The Premier League numbers are startling, with a cumulative American audience of 116 million during the 2013-14 season marking an increase of 114 per cent on the 2012-13 campaign.

“We are excited about the US on a number of levels,” Premier League spokesman Dan Johnson said. “There are burgeoning interest levels in terms of viewing figures and attendances on club tours.

“America’s performance in Brazil will further boost interest levels in the game and Tim Howard is now a household name.
“There has been a big uplift in Premier League viewing figures. Both we and NBC think that there is a tremendous amount of potential.”

Scratch beneath the surface, however, and the reality is that soccer continues to face a fight to claim a foothold in the psyche of a uniquely inward-looking sporting nation.

Premier League and MLS fixtures are broadcast away from the peak slots claimed by NFL games, with morning action from England and evening fixtures in the MLS filling cheaper, less congested airtime on the major networks.

The NFL dominates, with its broadcast deal within the States alone amounting to a staggering $9 billion a year. In contrast, the Premier League’s global deal, not including the UK, is £2.2 billion over three years.

The real soccer battle is the one taking place outside the States, in which the Premier League, La Liga and superpower clubs such as United and Real are aiming to claim ownership of the American money pit which is typified by the huge crowd turning out in Michigan this afternoon.

“America and Asia are the two core places we tend to go to and both deliver a huge amount,” admits United executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward. “America is the No 1 developing market and, despite finishing seventh, we were the most watched club team on US television last season.
“It may be strange to describe the US as a developing market, but look at the NBC numbers.”

La Liga, which can boast Real and Barcelona plus a galaxy of star names including Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi and Gareth Bale, has attempted to raise its profile in the States this summer, despite its leading official admitting that the Premier League has already raced over the American horizon.

“We believe the USA is an important area for Spanish soccer,” La Liga president Javier Tebas said. “Soccer is rapidly growing in popularity here and the MLS is becoming increasingly significant. But it is impossible to compare us with the Premier League from a commercial perspective. What we are trying to do is get closer to them and there is a lot of support out here already for Real Madrid and Barcelona.”

Mike Forde, who spent six years as director of football operations at Chelsea before moving to New York to set up the sports consultancy agency Ingenio-Management, works closely with sporting organisations within the NBA, NFL and MLB and he admits that Premier League clubs have learnt to hone their approach to successfully tap into the American market.

“The growth of Saturday morning Premier League broadcasts built the fans’ interest in the States, but those supporters are now becoming more educated,” Forde said.

“Ten years ago, any Premier League club could turn up with any of their players in pre-season, but the fans now only want to pay to watch the best.”
What really projects soccer to an American audience, however, is a big event.

United versus Liverpool in Miami would be the equivalent of the Los Angeles Lakers tackling the New York Knicks at the O₂ Arena or the Dallas Cowboys facing the Green Bay Packers at Wembley Stadium and the ‘big event’ is why 109,000 will be in Ann Arbor on Saturday.

“United against Real is big because many of us wake up at 5am and 7.30am on Saturdays to watch Premier League on TV,” Gregg Krupa, of the Detroit News, said. “It is going to be nice to see them live. Even if this is a friendly, and we will not see the sides going full tilt, it will be fun.”

There's clearly some jockeying for position going on among the press to become United's journalist of choice. Herbert seemed to have the role under Moyes but Ogden was the one to get the Moyes sacking story and it looks like he's determined to hang on to the job.
 
Just looking at the BT website front page.

Under the "featured videos" section, there is one showing the new kits of Premier League clubs.

Guess who's kit they are highlighting?

That's right - both home and away in blue with the word ETIHAD in the middle!!

Agenda/Bias - my arse!!

Whilst I agree there is a definite bias in favour of the Sky 4 teams, this made me give a wry smile.
 
Have been with Sky since its start,they called me the other night offering to add MUTV,told them to go away nicely..hmm
 
And I say all of this as a confirmed agendaist:
Sky Sports 1 tonight...

8pm City v Olympiakos

10.15 Football Gold City v Arsenal 2009/10

10.30 Football Gold, Utd v City 2011/12

10.45 Football Gold, City v QPR 2011/12

I know we can all be a bit sensitive to the bias (which hasn't gone away, in spite of this) and I'm the worst in the world but sometimes you gotta give credit where it's due. We couldn't ask for better than that unless they have rights to the ballet on ice and all.


Sorry de Niro, I realise I'm off the case, now. I'll hand in my shield and my gun, if you insist, lootenenant.
:-)
 
crazyg said:
Just looking at the BT website front page.

Under the "featured videos" section, there is one showing the new kits of Premier League clubs.

Guess who's kit they are highlighting?

That's right - both home and away in blue with the word ETIHAD in the middle!!

Agenda/Bias - my arse!!

Whilst I agree there is a definite bias in favour of the Sky 4 teams, this made me give a wry smile.

There's a very stark contrast between the amount of coverage BT Sport and Sky are giving to City. I wonder why that might be? Hmmmmmmm.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/2013/august/bt-sport-partnership-announcement" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/20 ... nouncement</a>

Simon Green, Head of BT Sport:

"We’re thrilled to be an official partner of Manchester City."

If we can't get fair reporting off THEM then we have no chance.
 
mad4city said:
And I say all of this as a confirmed agendaist:
Sky Sports 1 tonight...

8pm City v Olympiakos

10.15 Football Gold City v Arsenal 2009/10

10.30 Football Gold, Utd v City 2011/12

10.45 Football Gold, City v QPR 2011/12

I know we can all be a bit sensitive to the bias (which hasn't gone away, in spite of this) and I'm the worst in the world but sometimes you gotta give credit where it's due. We couldn't ask for better than that unless they have rights to the ballet on ice and all.


Sorry de Niro, I realise I'm off the case, now. I'll hand in my shield and my gun, if you insist, lootenenant.
:-)

get back in line there soldier.
its a ploy. they have been on this website and are trying to redress the balance. they will desert us soon enough.
 
mad4city said:
And I say all of this as a confirmed agendaist:
Sky Sports 1 tonight...

8pm City v Olympiakos

10.15 Football Gold City v Arsenal 2009/10

10.30 Football Gold, Utd v City 2011/12

10.45 Football Gold, City v QPR 2011/12

I know we can all be a bit sensitive to the bias (which hasn't gone away, in spite of this) and I'm the worst in the world but sometimes you gotta give credit where it's due. We couldn't ask for better than that unless they have rights to the ballet on ice and all.


Sorry de Niro, I realise I'm off the case, now. I'll hand in my shield and my gun, if you insist, lootenenant.
:-)


Hey if they want to sponser me where is this cash
 
The cookie monster said:
Blue Mooner said:
The cookie monster said:
Deary me you type some fucking shit.

And what abt our easy start & their tough one last year was that fixed?

Tbh I was expecting that retort and was not disappointed. In my view, the rationale for the start Moyes got last year was conceived as a way of protecting Moyes in his start to the season after Fergie. Ie if he won those games. he would be the Messiah, and if he lost them, they had the convenient excuse that they were playing the top teams. It was intended to give him breathing space after the Fergie era. As it was, it was disastrous for them, and lo and behold they've given a similar and even harder start to us this season......hoping lightening strikes twice...?

You go on believing it just accidentally fell out of a fixture computer and has all just been left to chance.
I see you didnt answer my question on our start last season
Out of our first 8 fixtures one difficult game,"the rags" & they even gave us that at home
Why would the prem league gave us a piss easy start like that?

Ok I will address the point about our 'piss easy' start, actually, if you take it on face value you could say it was easy, however, if you know something of the recent history of City it wasn't actually an easy start.

Newcastle (h) not as easy as you could get but happy with that as a first game
Cardiff (a) if you were going to play Cardiff a this was the worst time to get them and so it proved
Hull (h) yeh, pretty happy with that
Stoke (a) never get a result at Stoke away and didn't this time drawn 5 lost 1 of our previous 6
Rags (h) derby - difficult game and lost to them the previous season at home - the only game we lost at home
Villa (a) traditionally do well at Villa so happy with that before knowing the result
Everton (h) up until last season everyone had always had been our bogey side since 2010 we had lost 5 won 1 drawn 1
West Ham (a) Ok game
Chelsea (a) hard and we lost

So from our alleged 'piss easy' start we had Everton and Stoke where who we hadn't traditionally got results against since 2010 the rags who we'd lost to at home the previous season, Cardiff on their first game back to the premier league and Chelsea a (one of the hardest of the season) and then 4 games which you wouldn't complain about - not necessarily a hard start, but granted not one you would necessarily complain about. however there are only 6 what you would describe as 'tough' teams you can get so out of nine games you are likely to get 3 on paper easy games and we got 4

Contrast this with the rags first 9 games:

Swansea h
Sunderland a
Burnley a
QPR h
Leicester a
West Ham h
Everton h
West Brom a

Not ONE team that finished above 11th place last season, you couldn't have hand picked those fixtures any better if you tried and yet people STILL think this just was the hand that the fixture computer randomly dealt. That is what you call a piss easy start.

Yes of course everyone has to play the same teams ultimately so you are going to have periods of the season that are harder than others, but the prem league is about momentum and getting a good start is critical to how your season will pan out, which is why it's so important.

Hopefully the rags are that bad they will f@ck up but I don't think they are bad enough to lose many games against that lot of fixtures. It is a small but another example of the agenda at work, and I stand by it, no matter how many 'tin foil', 'pissing blood' snidey remarks that are thrown in my direction.
 
Playing three promoted sides one after the other when they will be trying to get something is not going to be easy for turtlehead. Last season I thought Villa had the hardest start to the season and they seemed to do alright from it. If it were me I would have preferred to get rid of all the top four away from home early doors before they all start to get into their stride. Going to be a long season, sit back and enjoy the ride again folks. :-)
 
Rammyblues said:
Playing three promoted sides one after the other when they will be trying to get something is not going to be easy for turtlehead. Last season I thought Villa had the hardest start to the season and they seemed to do alright from it. If it were me I would have preferred to get rid of all the top four away from home early doors before they all start to get into their stride. Going to be a long season, sit back and enjoy the ride again folks. :-)
I wanted the Sunderland trip out of the way as quick as possible!
 
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