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KippaxCitizen said:
baildon blue said:
BigOscar said:
Martin Tyler's disdain for us is getting more and more apparent. He doesn't even raise his voice when we get chances and sounds gutted when we score. He seemed to carry on from his Everton performance last year, utter shite
Never changes his tune Tyler .
Him and Alan Smith were well boring today .
I get the feeling these two would be more excited watching a rerun of crossroads than us .
He got excited when Palace came back from 0-3 down against Liverpool last season. "Liverpool have CAVED IN!" and he gasped when Palace gave the ball away on an attack to make it 4-3 near the death.

because the rags were pissing themselves, just like us.
 
You'd think they'd show the champions first on MOTD to be honest

Edit - sorry forgot they won the league in April
 
Errrr, MOTD2 is supposed to be about the matches played today surely plus showing the goals from yesterday and yet they have just spent more time on the rags match yesterday than is totally necessary. Then to add insult to injury they clumsily say, 'Southampton fans will be saying, hang on we won'!! But they had plenty of time last night on the MOTD programme to show all that they showed tonight,.

I'm not a great believer in the agenda, just think it is poor journalism but this was blatant!!
 
littlemarkyc said:
So bored of this thread....shut it down, it's dull and pointless. It only seeks to make blues feel small and have a chip in their shoulder and for no reason. Who cares if there is an agenda? We'll never have the following of someone like the rags, not even if we win the next 10 titles...so don't sweat it people. We are city! Enjoy!

City not city

Seems to be a Caf thing *Sniff*
 
Eccles Blue said:
Errrr, MOTD2 is supposed to be about the matches played today surely plus showing the goals from yesterday and yet they have just spent more time on the rags match yesterday than is totally necessary. Then to add insult to injury they clumsily say, 'Southampton fans will be saying, hang on we won'!! But they had plenty of time last night on the MOTD programme to show all that they showed tonight,.

I'm not a great believer in the agenda, just think it is poor journalism but this was blatant!!

That'll be Swansea fans.
 
mirror mirror on the wall.....

Newcastle 0-2 Man City: 5 things we learned from the champions' opening day win
Aug 17, 2014 20:28
GREG JOHNSON
Last season's title winners are off and running - but did Pards mind his language this time?

For all the champagne quality players on the field of play, the football on offer at St James' Park was lacking in fizz as Manchester City began their Premier League title defence with an away win against Newcastle United.
What did we learn from the match and the two teams' performances? Over to Greg Johnson ...

1) No, no Toure
Jamie McDonaldEmmanuel Riviere is challenged by Yaya ToureYaya Toure: Not his usual blockbuster self
Though he may have delivered the long ball that ultimately led to Silva's opener, Yaya Toure's performance against Newcastle was defined more by what he failed to do rather than what he did.

The Ivorian was strangely static throughout the game, and even when he found the ball at his feet on the outskirts of the Magpies' box, he seemingly refused to try and take his markers on.

As such, City's midfield looked extremely rigid for most of the match and their momentum going forward suffered as a result.

It could have all been a tactical ploy by Manuel Pellegrini - concerned over the dribbling abilities of Newcastle's attackers the Chilean may have decided that he needed a defensive midfield block rather than a flexible pivot - but it resulted in Yaya Toure looking conspicuous by his negativity on the ball.

Given his lack of contribution to his team's efforts at winning back the ball or closing down space, even if that is the case, he didn't do a good job of playing the role of being a destructive spoiler either.

2) New Magpies will fly
Remy Cabella led the charge with his skill on the ball and movement off it, but Alan Pardew has plenty of reasons to be happy with the other new faces in his squad after a number of promising if unfulfilled debuts versus City.

Stu ForsterHaircut 100: Newcastle's Remy Cabella on the ball
The French playmaker looked dangerous whenever he received the ball and he looks set to become an influential figure on Tyneside this season, replacing the creativity of Yohan Cabaye who departed in January.

Up front, both Emmanuel Riviere and Ayoze Perez looked threatening, with the former making a number of good runs while the latter almost got lucky on two occasions following his introduction towards the end of the second-half.

One player who needed to make a good first impression following his controversial switch from bitter rivals Sunderland was Jack Colback, but the midfielder acquitted himself well. His set piece deliveries should trouble many a defence this campaign, with his freekicks and corners causing a few spots of bother for Vincent Kompany & Co.

Hopefully these new Magpies will be able to fully spread their wings and show off what they're about in Newcastle's next match away to Aston Villa.

3) Dzeko deal is vital
Aguero and Silva may have scored the goals, but the man of the match award belonged to Edin Dzeko, whose delightful back heel set up the Spaniard and hold up play made him a constant menace to Newcastle's back line.

The Bosnian was excellent at creating space for his on-running team mates, pulling into the channels to open up gaps for Steven Jovetic and others who looked to pierce the protective guard around Krul's goal.

With City looking to hand five-year deals out to their best and brightest at present, it's increasingly becoming difficult to understand why Dzeko hasn't been near the front of the queue when it comes to the negotiating table.

Having been regarded by many as a player on his way out of the club last year, a new contract wouldn't just be fitting recognition of his part in another City title win, but also a reward for staying and fighting for his place.

4) Aguero and Silva
There were many reasons why Roberto Mancini faltered at City, but one of the key causes of his failings on the pitch was the uneven form of Aguero and Silva in the wake of the club's first Premier League title win in 2012.

Following the Argentine's dramatic, last-day winner, it seemed as though Mancini's regime had been gripped by an overwhelming sense of relief rather than a determination to win and achieve yet more the following year.

City's first attempt at a Premier League title defence shuddered to a halt without the influence of Silva and goals of Aguero, as the whole team seemed to slow up, like a horse who's lost the nerve to jump a fence.

Pellegrini will need to carefully manage these two game-changers in order to keep them fresh and firing throughout this season, especially the Argentinian, who is beginning to pick up a sizeable list of knocks and injuries.

Given their resources, City can afford a lot, but they cannot afford their two magicians to run out of spells once again under the strain of a title that must be defended.

They won the game today, and will need to win many more for Pellegrini over the season to come.

5) Pardew has learned to watch his language
Although many a decision may have gone against his side as City visited St James Park, Alan Pardew managed to keep his cool and stave off any potentially expletive ridden rants towards the rival dug out.

In January, following a touchline spat, the Newcastle boss offered some choice words to the Chilean regarded his age and personality that quickly became another story for the cult canon of Pardew mishaps.

That's not to say that the former West Ham and Southampton boss has turned over a new leaf of course. If results fail to go his way over the coming weeks, and the pressure begins to mount, who knows how the referee-pushing, David Meyler-head-butting Magpies manager may react?
 
KippaxCitizen said:
Greame Souness; "it used to be Manchester United, it used to be Liverpool...but now City are the big team, they're the biggest team in the country, the best team these other Premier League players and teams will play against each season"

Live on air on Sky Sports.

Souness usually calls it right, lets give him a personal invite to City's firework celebrations one sunday afternoon next may
 
The perfect fumble said:
Eccles Blue said:
Errrr, MOTD2 is supposed to be about the matches played today surely plus showing the goals from yesterday and yet they have just spent more time on the rags match yesterday than is totally necessary. Then to add insult to injury they clumsily say, 'Southampton fans will be saying, hang on we won'!! But they had plenty of time last night on the MOTD programme to show all that they showed tonight,.

I'm not a great believer in the agenda, just think it is poor journalism but this was blatant!!

That'll be Swansea fans.

Whoops so it will, I was multi-tasking and they had just mentioned Southampton.................... but they do both begin with S!!!!
 
George Hannah said:
mirror mirror on the wall.....

Newcastle 0-2 Man City: 5 things we learned from the champions' opening day win
Aug 17, 2014 20:28
GREG JOHNSON
Last season's title winners are off and running - but did Pards mind his language this time?

For all the champagne quality players on the field of play, the football on offer at St James' Park was lacking in fizz as Manchester City began their Premier League title defence with an away win against Newcastle United.
What did we learn from the match and the two teams' performances? Over to Greg Johnson ...

1) No, no Toure
Jamie McDonaldEmmanuel Riviere is challenged by Yaya ToureYaya Toure: Not his usual blockbuster self
Though he may have delivered the long ball that ultimately led to Silva's opener, Yaya Toure's performance against Newcastle was defined more by what he failed to do rather than what he did.

The Ivorian was strangely static throughout the game, and even when he found the ball at his feet on the outskirts of the Magpies' box, he seemingly refused to try and take his markers on.

As such, City's midfield looked extremely rigid for most of the match and their momentum going forward suffered as a result.

It could have all been a tactical ploy by Manuel Pellegrini - concerned over the dribbling abilities of Newcastle's attackers the Chilean may have decided that he needed a defensive midfield block rather than a flexible pivot - but it resulted in Yaya Toure looking conspicuous by his negativity on the ball.

Given his lack of contribution to his team's efforts at winning back the ball or closing down space, even if that is the case, he didn't do a good job of playing the role of being a destructive spoiler either.

2) New Magpies will fly
Remy Cabella led the charge with his skill on the ball and movement off it, but Alan Pardew has plenty of reasons to be happy with the other new faces in his squad after a number of promising if unfulfilled debuts versus City.

Stu ForsterHaircut 100: Newcastle's Remy Cabella on the ball
The French playmaker looked dangerous whenever he received the ball and he looks set to become an influential figure on Tyneside this season, replacing the creativity of Yohan Cabaye who departed in January.

Up front, both Emmanuel Riviere and Ayoze Perez looked threatening, with the former making a number of good runs while the latter almost got lucky on two occasions following his introduction towards the end of the second-half.

One player who needed to make a good first impression following his controversial switch from bitter rivals Sunderland was Jack Colback, but the midfielder acquitted himself well. His set piece deliveries should trouble many a defence this campaign, with his freekicks and corners causing a few spots of bother for Vincent Kompany & Co.

Hopefully these new Magpies will be able to fully spread their wings and show off what they're about in Newcastle's next match away to Aston Villa.

3) Dzeko deal is vital
Aguero and Silva may have scored the goals, but the man of the match award belonged to Edin Dzeko, whose delightful back heel set up the Spaniard and hold up play made him a constant menace to Newcastle's back line.

The Bosnian was excellent at creating space for his on-running team mates, pulling into the channels to open up gaps for Steven Jovetic and others who looked to pierce the protective guard around Krul's goal.

With City looking to hand five-year deals out to their best and brightest at present, it's increasingly becoming difficult to understand why Dzeko hasn't been near the front of the queue when it comes to the negotiating table.

Having been regarded by many as a player on his way out of the club last year, a new contract wouldn't just be fitting recognition of his part in another City title win, but also a reward for staying and fighting for his place.

4) Aguero and Silva
There were many reasons why Roberto Mancini faltered at City, but one of the key causes of his failings on the pitch was the uneven form of Aguero and Silva in the wake of the club's first Premier League title win in 2012.

Following the Argentine's dramatic, last-day winner, it seemed as though Mancini's regime had been gripped by an overwhelming sense of relief rather than a determination to win and achieve yet more the following year.

City's first attempt at a Premier League title defence shuddered to a halt without the influence of Silva and goals of Aguero, as the whole team seemed to slow up, like a horse who's lost the nerve to jump a fence.

Pellegrini will need to carefully manage these two game-changers in order to keep them fresh and firing throughout this season, especially the Argentinian, who is beginning to pick up a sizeable list of knocks and injuries.

Given their resources, City can afford a lot, but they cannot afford their two magicians to run out of spells once again under the strain of a title that must be defended.

They won the game today, and will need to win many more for Pellegrini over the season to come.

5) Pardew has learned to watch his language
Although many a decision may have gone against his side as City visited St James Park, Alan Pardew managed to keep his cool and stave off any potentially expletive ridden rants towards the rival dug out.

In January, following a touchline spat, the Newcastle boss offered some choice words to the Chilean regarded his age and personality that quickly became another story for the cult canon of Pardew mishaps.

That's not to say that the former West Ham and Southampton boss has turned over a new leaf of course. If results fail to go his way over the coming weeks, and the pressure begins to mount, who knows how the referee-pushing, David Meyler-head-butting Magpies manager may react?

nothing to see here move along
 
tonea2003 said:
George Hannah said:
mirror mirror on the wall.....

Newcastle 0-2 Man City: 5 things we learned from the champions' opening day win
Aug 17, 2014 20:28
GREG JOHNSON
Last season's title winners are off and running - but did Pards mind his language this time?

For all the champagne quality players on the field of play, the football on offer at St James' Park was lacking in fizz as Manchester City began their Premier League title defence with an away win against Newcastle United.
What did we learn from the match and the two teams' performances? Over to Greg Johnson ...

1) No, no Toure
Jamie McDonaldEmmanuel Riviere is challenged by Yaya ToureYaya Toure: Not his usual blockbuster self
Though he may have delivered the long ball that ultimately led to Silva's opener, Yaya Toure's performance against Newcastle was defined more by what he failed to do rather than what he did.

The Ivorian was strangely static throughout the game, and even when he found the ball at his feet on the outskirts of the Magpies' box, he seemingly refused to try and take his markers on.

As such, City's midfield looked extremely rigid for most of the match and their momentum going forward suffered as a result.

It could have all been a tactical ploy by Manuel Pellegrini - concerned over the dribbling abilities of Newcastle's attackers the Chilean may have decided that he needed a defensive midfield block rather than a flexible pivot - but it resulted in Yaya Toure looking conspicuous by his negativity on the ball.

Given his lack of contribution to his team's efforts at winning back the ball or closing down space, even if that is the case, he didn't do a good job of playing the role of being a destructive spoiler either.

2) New Magpies will fly
Remy Cabella led the charge with his skill on the ball and movement off it, but Alan Pardew has plenty of reasons to be happy with the other new faces in his squad after a number of promising if unfulfilled debuts versus City.

Stu ForsterHaircut 100: Newcastle's Remy Cabella on the ball
The French playmaker looked dangerous whenever he received the ball and he looks set to become an influential figure on Tyneside this season, replacing the creativity of Yohan Cabaye who departed in January.

Up front, both Emmanuel Riviere and Ayoze Perez looked threatening, with the former making a number of good runs while the latter almost got lucky on two occasions following his introduction towards the end of the second-half.

One player who needed to make a good first impression following his controversial switch from bitter rivals Sunderland was Jack Colback, but the midfielder acquitted himself well. His set piece deliveries should trouble many a defence this campaign, with his freekicks and corners causing a few spots of bother for Vincent Kompany & Co.

Hopefully these new Magpies will be able to fully spread their wings and show off what they're about in Newcastle's next match away to Aston Villa.

3) Dzeko deal is vital
Aguero and Silva may have scored the goals, but the man of the match award belonged to Edin Dzeko, whose delightful back heel set up the Spaniard and hold up play made him a constant menace to Newcastle's back line.

The Bosnian was excellent at creating space for his on-running team mates, pulling into the channels to open up gaps for Steven Jovetic and others who looked to pierce the protective guard around Krul's goal.

With City looking to hand five-year deals out to their best and brightest at present, it's increasingly becoming difficult to understand why Dzeko hasn't been near the front of the queue when it comes to the negotiating table.

Having been regarded by many as a player on his way out of the club last year, a new contract wouldn't just be fitting recognition of his part in another City title win, but also a reward for staying and fighting for his place.

4) Aguero and Silva
There were many reasons why Roberto Mancini faltered at City, but one of the key causes of his failings on the pitch was the uneven form of Aguero and Silva in the wake of the club's first Premier League title win in 2012.

Following the Argentine's dramatic, last-day winner, it seemed as though Mancini's regime had been gripped by an overwhelming sense of relief rather than a determination to win and achieve yet more the following year.

City's first attempt at a Premier League title defence shuddered to a halt without the influence of Silva and goals of Aguero, as the whole team seemed to slow up, like a horse who's lost the nerve to jump a fence.

Pellegrini will need to carefully manage these two game-changers in order to keep them fresh and firing throughout this season, especially the Argentinian, who is beginning to pick up a sizeable list of knocks and injuries.

Given their resources, City can afford a lot, but they cannot afford their two magicians to run out of spells once again under the strain of a title that must be defended.

They won the game today, and will need to win many more for Pellegrini over the season to come.

5) Pardew has learned to watch his language
Although many a decision may have gone against his side as City visited St James Park, Alan Pardew managed to keep his cool and stave off any potentially expletive ridden rants towards the rival dug out.

In January, following a touchline spat, the Newcastle boss offered some choice words to the Chilean regarded his age and personality that quickly became another story for the cult canon of Pardew mishaps.

That's not to say that the former West Ham and Southampton boss has turned over a new leaf of course. If results fail to go his way over the coming weeks, and the pressure begins to mount, who knows how the referee-pushing, David Meyler-head-butting Magpies manager may react?

nothing to see here move along

I actually think that comment about Mancini's regime being gripped by a sense of relief is very pertinent. When United and Chelsea won their first titles in decades they started the following season with a spring in their step, and had an obvious feeling of self belief. Arrogant but in a good way. By contrast we had the summer of discontent and were very flat at the start of 12/13. If we can get off to a flying start this season we could blow our challengers out of the water.
 
cibaman said:
tonea2003 said:
George Hannah said:
mirror mirror on the wall.....

nothing to see here move along

I actually think that comment about Mancini's regime being gripped by a sense of relief is very pertinent. When United and Chelsea won their first titles in decades they started the following season with a spring in their step, and had an obvious feeling of self belief. Arrogant but in a good way. By contrast we had the summer of discontent and were very flat at the start of 12/13. If we can get off to a flying start this season we could blow our challengers out of the water.

agreed but in terms of an agenda?
maybe george can tell us.
 
cibaman said:
tonea2003 said:
George Hannah said:
mirror mirror on the wall.....


I actually think that comment about Mancini's regime being gripped by a sense of relief is very pertinent. When United and Chelsea won their first titles in decades they started the following season with a spring in their step, and had an obvious feeling of self belief. Arrogant but in a good way. By contrast we had the summer of discontent and were very flat at the start of 12/13. If we can get off to a flying start this season we could blow our challengers out of the water.

I too appreciate the "gripped by a sense of relief" comment but I don't necessarily buy-in to the flat start of 12/13. We actually were unbeaten in the league for the 1st 15 games and had we won the 16th (United at home) we would have been top of the league approaching the half way mark. Sure, performances were not as riveting as 2011/2012 but the real decline 2012/2013 was not at the start of the season.
 
cibaman said:
tonea2003 said:
George Hannah said:
mirror mirror on the wall.....

nothing to see here move along

I actually think that comment about Mancini's regime being gripped by a sense of relief is very pertinent. When United and Chelsea won their first titles in decades they started the following season with a spring in their step, and had an obvious feeling of self belief. Arrogant but in a good way. By contrast we had the summer of discontent and were very flat at the start of 12/13. If we can get off to a flying start this season we could blow our challengers out of the water.
We went three months unbeaten and were top of the league in that time at the start of 2012-13.
 
tonea2003 said:
cibaman said:
tonea2003 said:
nothing to see here move along
I actually think that comment about Mancini's regime being gripped by a sense of relief is very pertinent. When United and Chelsea won their first titles in decades they started the following season with a spring in their step, and had an obvious feeling of self belief. Arrogant but in a good way. By contrast we had the summer of discontent and were very flat at the start of 12/13. If we can get off to a flying start this season we could blow our challengers out of the water.
agreed but in terms of an agenda?
maybe george can tell us.
ah well, I suppose it might be a little clearer when we drop some points instead of winning comfortably away against quality opposition.
Anyway this morning I thought I 'd look up the BBC teletext report of our table topping performance -

teletext_zpsc0315500.jpg


ah well - but I suppose if we'd lost badly at home against relegation fodder and our swampy friends had won on the road with a superbly professional performance we might have made the page.
 
George Hannah said:
tonea2003 said:
cibaman said:
I actually think that comment about Mancini's regime being gripped by a sense of relief is very pertinent. When United and Chelsea won their first titles in decades they started the following season with a spring in their step, and had an obvious feeling of self belief. Arrogant but in a good way. By contrast we had the summer of discontent and were very flat at the start of 12/13. If we can get off to a flying start this season we could blow our challengers out of the water.
agreed but in terms of an agenda?
maybe george can tell us.
ah well, I suppose it might be a little clearer when we drop some points instead of winning comfortably away against quality opposition.
Anyway this morning I thought I 'd look up the BBC teletext report of our table topping performance -

teletext_zpsc0315500.jpg


ah well - but I suppose if we'd lost badly at home against relegation fodder and our swampy friends had won on the road with a superbly professional performance we might have made the page.

you can't cherry pick george, we were the first port of call on sky sports news when i watched last night
paranoia is starting to get the better of you
 
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