so this agenda thing.

[coleridge]

Reminds me of that old joke about the London cabbie talking to an unsuspecting passenger.

'Had that Bertrand Russell in my cab yesterday. I said "Hey, Bertie, what's it all about?" And you know what? He didn't know.'

 

[Chippy_boy]

Will be interesting to see the slack that Mario Ballotelli will get from the media when he plays for one of their darlings Liverpool compared to his treatment at City....it'll be as though he's had no history in the EPL. Same with the officials. Would that convince the non agenda brigade??

Wish him well etheirway.

Very interesting so see how this one pans out actually

Said so myself in the Liverpool thread. You can just see the angst on the refs faces with their brains struggling to come to terms with the reflex action of booking Mario for running, vs not booking him because of his red shirt. Does.... not.... compute....

 

[Bill]

Barça were caught red handed by FIFA and, consequently, they are fined and banned.

MCFC disrupted the cozy cartel set up by UEFA and, consequently, an agenda (under the FFP name) was put in place but said cartel to stop City.

correct. plain as day.

as much as you say it, you can not point to anything that says the reason for FFP is manchester city
i'll hold my hands up if you can.

and in any case what has that got to with the daily star and their ilk not printing stories about us and plenty on the rags?
which is being linked together in this agenda specifically against us

wow.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

correct. plain as day.

as much as you say it, you can not point to anything that says the reason for FFP is manchester city
i'll hold my hands up if you can.

and in any case what has that got to with the daily star and their ilk not printing stories about us and plenty on the rags?
which is being linked together in this agenda specifically against us

wow.

So you think the media, UEFA and other football clubs are all in it together against us? Haha!

 

[Deleted member 58678]

"The only genuine philosophical question is why you have made something out of nothing."

The MANUre title win in 2013 fits like a hand in a glove!!

MANUre's purchase of Rojo gets a mighty splash in the DT today, whereas Edin Dzeko gets a couple of column inches shoved at the back of the footy pages.

But Silva Kompany and Kun's new contracts all got back page headlines across numerous a papers and were all in the main news every half hour on talkSPORT as the main headlines on their respective days.

 

[sir baconface]

Is this thread still going?

Wow. There are folks who believe there ISN'T an anti CITY agenda?
I guess they must also believe in Creationism AND Father Christmas AND The Tooth Fairy AND Ghosts AND UFO's AND that Elvis is still alive selling Chip Barms in Reddish.

Honestly there is more evidence that the above exist than there isn't an Anti City agenda.

They must love the Python's "Argument Sketch" as they seem to practice it every day on here.

Very droll.

If you had actually read the thread you would understand there are different angles to the debate.

 

[tonea2003]

as much as you say it, you can not point to anything that says the reason for FFP is manchester city
i'll hold my hands up if you can.

and in any case what has that got to with the daily star and their ilk not printing stories about us and plenty on the rags?
which is being linked together in this agenda specifically against us

wow.

So you think the media, UEFA and other football clubs are all in it together against us? Haha!

The agenerists will say they are without a shred of evidence though
They say FFP was created specifically with city in mind to bring us to our knees
There is more conspiracy theories than at a JFK convention

Bias in the media of course there is but that's all it is

Now ballo is going to get favouritism

Paranoia everywhere

 

[George Hannah]

Reminds me of that old joke about the London cabbie talking to an unsuspecting passenger.

'Had that Bertrand Russell in my cab yesterday. I said "Hey, Bertie, what's it all about?" And you know what? He didn't know.'

What a strange co-incidence - it's uncanny - almost as if there's an a..... - the same story is recalled on the previous page but that version involves T.S.Eliot - from about 25 minutes in

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSFEr2zV5Oo#t=1448[/video]

 

[Blue Mooner]

wow.

So you think the media, UEFA and other football clubs are all in it together against us? Haha!

The agenerists will say they are without a shred of evidence though
They say FFP was created specifically with city in mind to bring us to our knees
There is more conspiracy theories than at a JFK convention

Bias in the media of course there is but that's all it is

Now ballo is going to get favouritism

Paranoia everywhere

Ok so explain why we didn't have FFP when Chelsea were outspending everyone under Ambramovich, or Jack Walker for Blackburn before him or Steve Gibson for Middlesbrough or when Real Madrid were funded by state subsidies between 2000 & 2006 outspending any other team and filling the with galacticos. Why was it not introduced when the rags spent 30 million on Rooney in 2003 and Ferdinand in 2004.

Precisely why was FFP introduced in 2009 only a year after sheikh Mansour bought the club ? What exactly was the motivation ?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Precisely why was FFP introduced in 2009 only a year after sheikh Mansour bought the club ? What exactly was the motivation ?

 

[Bill]

as much as you say it, you can not point to anything that says the reason for FFP is manchester city
i'll hold my hands up if you can.

and in any case what has that got to with the daily star and their ilk not printing stories about us and plenty on the rags?
which is being linked together in this agenda specifically against us

wow.

So you think the media, UEFA and other football clubs are all in it together against us? Haha!

well the influenticial prem clubs are, they are voting against us over a uk based ffs scheme and home grown levels.

uefa (namely platini) have a definate agenda against us, i think so and so does vinny.

 

[Utter bobbins]

as much as you say it, you can not point to anything that says the reason for FFP is manchester city
i'll hold my hands up if you can.

and in any case what has that got to with the daily star and their ilk not printing stories about us and plenty on the rags?
which is being linked together in this agenda specifically against us

wow.

So you think the media, UEFA and other football clubs are all in it together against us? Haha!

Yes Brian Marwood Bernard Halford and Mike Summerbee told me and a few others about 3 years ago

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

it's the simple fact of 5 into 4 doesn't go, and the upstart is always going to receive a kicking.

I doubt if the likes of Bayern and Real really give much of a fuck as we don't really take any revenue off them, Barca maybe but that's more down to Txiki/Ferran than anything, it's just mainly the English clubs who have a problem, who the others then encourage purely because it means they can close the shop in their own leagues as well, well that was the plan anyway...

 

[Blue Mooner]

Precisely why was FFP introduced in 2009 only a year after sheikh Mansour bought the club ? What exactly was the motivation ?

Totally discredited, Leeds went into administration in 2007 - so why not it's introduction in 2008 ? Portsmouth went into administration after the introduction of FFP in 2010. There are actually 34 clubs that have been into administration since 1984 the first being Charlton athletic, so it took UEFA 25 years to actually address the issue

Since FFP introduction there have been 13 clubs that have gone into administration.

Not only that, the construct of FFP discredits any notion that it is there to stop clubs going into administration as evidenced by our 'fine' not only that if you wanted something that was 'fair' you would put a cap on the amount any club could spend and make it the same for every club.

It's a smokescreen and all City fans know it (with a few unbelievable exceptions)

So....,,please explain....,why the timing of FFP introduction if it wasn't a direct attack against our club ?

 

[Bill]

Precisely why was FFP introduced in 2009 only a year after sheikh Mansour bought the club ? What exactly was the motivation ?

Totally discredited, Leeds went into administration in 2007 - so why not it's introduction in 2008 ? Portsmouth went into administration after the introduction of FFP in 2010. There are actually 34 clubs that have been into administration since 1984 the first being Charlton athletic, so it took UEFA 25 years to actually address the issue

Since FFP introduction there have been 13 clubs that have gone into administration.

Not only that, the construct of FFP discredits any notion that it is there to stop clubs going into administration as evidenced by our 'fine' not only that if you wanted something that was 'fair' you would put a cap on the amount any club could spend and make it the same for every club.

It's a smokescreen and all City fans know it (with a few unbelievable exceptions)

So....,,please explain....,why the timing of FFP introduction if it wasn't a direct attack against our club ?

this'll be good.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Precisely why was FFP introduced in 2009 only a year after sheikh Mansour bought the club ? What exactly was the motivation ?

Totally discredited, Leeds went into administration in 2007 - so why not it's introduction in 2008 ? Portsmouth went into administration after the introduction of FFP in 2010. There are actually 34 clubs that have been into administration since 1984 the first being Charlton athletic, so it took UEFA 25 years to actually address the issue

Since FFP introduction there have been 13 clubs that have gone into administration.

Not only that, the construct of FFP discredits any notion that it is there to stop clubs going into administration as evidenced by our 'fine' not only that if you wanted something that was 'fair' you would put a cap on the amount any club could spend and make it the same for every club.

It's a smokescreen and all City fans know it (with a few unbelievable exceptions)

So....,,please explain....,why the timing of FFP introduction if it wasn't a direct attack against our club ?

I take it you've never encountered irony before.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

wow.

So you think the media, UEFA and other football clubs are all in it together against us? Haha!

well the influenticial prem clubs are, they are voting against us over a uk based ffs scheme and home grown levels.

uefa (namely platini) have a definate agenda against us, i think so and so does vinny.

Lest we forget that private memo addressed to the cartel on Arsenal F.C headed paper.

 

[stony]

Totally discredited, Leeds went into administration in 2007 - so why not it's introduction in 2008 ? Portsmouth went into administration after the introduction of FFP in 2010. There are actually 34 clubs that have been into administration since 1984 the first being Charlton athletic, so it took UEFA 25 years to actually address the issue

Since FFP introduction there have been 13 clubs that have gone into administration.

Not only that, the construct of FFP discredits any notion that it is there to stop clubs going into administration as evidenced by our 'fine' not only that if you wanted something that was 'fair' you would put a cap on the amount any club could spend and make it the same for every club.

It's a smokescreen and all City fans know it (with a few unbelievable exceptions)

So....,,please explain....,why the timing of FFP introduction if it wasn't a direct attack against our club ?

I take it you've never encountered irony before.

Does he make cards like his brother Purple ?

 

[SilverFox2]

I think it is obvious that any cash cow business that has found a way to increase its profit will protect its position.

If a newcomer tries to buy into that business sector then surely we cannot be surprised that a form of protectionism is the reaction ?
Even Countries resort to this tactic via 'import duties' levied on products that threaten home manufactured products.

Re football we are happy to allow different countries to tax differently even though the net income is a players measure so PSG is penalised to the benefit of Barca despite Europe being a so called common market.

The whole process is complicated by all sorts of efforts by Governments let alone sector leaders to protect their profits so the Sheik M. knows his way around this and will sort it out because he knows that business has never been fair.

 

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

And here lies the problem.

We've spent 150 pages talking about the "Agenda" being media bias, but now it's FFP and organised corruption.