So why suddenly do they talk about Aguero leaving?

[Kladze]

Hopefully both Jesus and Kun will start tonight, and they'll bag a hat trick each. After the game, Kun speaks to the media and says he's happy to fight for his place, loves Manchester, and will see out his contract here, by which point he is our all-time top scorer.

 

[simon23]

This is what is getting at me. Now we have a new shiny player, Kun is suddenly not up to it and doesn't fit the system.
As i said earlier, he fit the system OK when we were winning 10 on the bounce.

Fully agree and its a patern on here fir years and years when new players come in

 

[BAB.DAB]

This is what is getting at me. Now we have a new shiny player, Kun is suddenly not up to it and doesn't fit the system.
As i said earlier, he fit the system OK when we were winning 10 on the bounce.

Aguero didn't play in all the first 10 games

 

[Akiva]

You're one of those people that would detail a 50 page review of the raison d'être of Die Hard, whereas I would say 'Fuck yeah, John McClane!"

In otherwords, you see stuff that isn't there.

Oh?

And what exactly are you trying to say with "If you can't make things 'work' the way you'd like with one of the best strikers in the world, that's when you look at yourself rather than fuck said striker out." ?

What I imply is that instead of fucking off one of the best strikers in the world,

Nobody is "fucking off Aguero", you've been reading the Sun too much. Or perhaps been in the sun too much. Or both.

perhaps Pep and the club should first try and adapt to him a bit more

He's played in 20 games under Pep but that's frankly irrelevant.

instead of just 'Nope, fuck off'.

Pure strawman.

Because there was no mention of any problems in Aguero's game when he was banging in hat tricks for fun earlier in the season,

He's not in form at present, strikers can go in and out of form.

But sure, we all had no problems, Pep included, when Kun was scoring.

but now you imply he's basically turned to shite.

I imply he isn't an automatic entry in the starting XI based on name regardless of his form or that of the other players in the squad.

But you be the petty, personal abuse slinging, wee man that you evidently are. Well done.

Taking the moral high ground would have been so much more effective had you not instantly and immediately followed with abuse slinging of your own.

That's probably Pep's fault too though.

This is what is getting at me. Now we have a new shiny player, Kun is suddenly not up to it and doesn't fit the system.

Literally nobody is saying this and everyone on here wants Kun to stay.

 

[kaz7]

I have just watched the barca home highlights back and there is no reason he can't play like that all the time
I did say a while ago i think pep has him too far away from the goal and it must be frustrating for him as a goal scorer,a few tweaks can fix that if both sides are willing

 

[RayCTID]

His lack of adaptability seems more of an issue. The ball is in his court to prove that isn't the case.

 

[pudge]

Oh?

And what exactly are you trying to say with "If you can't make things 'work' the way you'd like with one of the best strikers in the world, that's when you look at yourself rather than fuck said striker out." ?



Nobody is "fucking off Aguero", you've been reading the Sun too much. Or perhaps been in the sun too much. Or both.



He's played in 20 games under Pep but that's frankly irrelevant.



Pure strawman.



He's not in form at present, strikers can go in and out of form.

But sure, we all had no problems, Pep included, when Kun was scoring.



I imply he isn't an automatic entry in the starting XI based on name regardless of his form or that of the other players in the squad.



Taking the moral high ground would have been so much more effective had you not instantly and immediately followed with abuse slinging of your own.

That's probably Pep's fault too though.



Literally nobody is saying this and everyone on here wants Kun to stay.

I hurled zero abuse.

I already detailed what I meant, you asking again would mean you either didn't or don't wish to hear it.

Selling Aguero should be the last resort if even one. In simple terms, if that's what you require.

 

[kaz7]

His lack of adaptability seems more of an issue. The ball is in his court to prove that isn't the case.

Say's who? he scored 18 goals before he was banned and he hasn't got back into the groove yet,to say that he is not trying to adapt is paper talk no more no less

 

[RayCTID]

Say's who? he scored 18 goals before he was banned and he hasn't got back into the groove yet,to say that he is not trying to adapt is paper talk no more no less

Says our current manager who has put him on the bench after his latest absence. If he showed what the manager wants and expects then he would be back in the team.

 

[MavisTheOne]

Guys, i really think aguero and Jesus both have a place
They even look friends

 

[Akiva]

Selling Aguero should be the last resort if even one. In simple terms, if that's what you require.

I agree. Hasn't Pep said as much many times too?

Nobody wants to sell Aguero, the question is only whether Aguero himself will want to be sold at the end of the season.

I can see a situation developing where this might be possible, but I think it's unfair to suggest that this is Guardiola intentionally "fucking off" Sergio. We all want, hell, need, for Kun to get back in form. Once he does, there's nobody in his way.

 

[inchy14]

Pep can fuck of with him

Fucking superb, sums a minority of our support to a tee.

I have just watched the barca home highlights back and there is no reason he can't play like that all the time
I did say a while ago i think pep has him too far away from the goal and it must be frustrating for him as a goal scorer,a few tweaks can fix that if both sides are willing

Aguero drops too deep on a regular basis and this is usually when he's out of form and not taking his chances, he then decides he's got to do it all in his own and ends up taking too many touches which is detrimental to his natural game.
He's a hero to me and tens of thousands of others but if he can't play in the system we play then he won't start.
It's that simple.
As for his performance v Barcelona, if he can do it that day surely you should be asking yourself why he's not done it more often.
Finally, he's missed 7 games through his own stupidity, that for me, especially with Jesus hitting the ground running, was enough of a reason to leave him out. No player should be guaranteed a start especially when others have stepped up to the plate, instead of making veiled threats to the press he should concentrate on getting his starting position back.
Now none of this is me saying I want him gone, I hope he can form a partnership with Jesus with both Sane and Sterling out wide, KDB and Silva behind them, Fernandinho behind them and a quality back 3. That line up would walk everything in my opinion.

 

[kaz7]

Says our current manager who has put him on the bench.

He was on the bench for the first game of the 2 because he got a knock in the game before and the kids were on fire and deserved to keep their places,he has been out for 2 whole games,way too much being made of it imo,but then you want us to stop looking back at 2012 and move on as we look like rags and dippers so excuse me if i don't take your opinion seriously

 

[BillyShears]

This is what is getting at me. Now we have a new shiny player, Kun is suddenly not up to it and doesn't fit the system.
As i said earlier, he fit the system OK when we were winning 10 on the bounce.

Kun wasn't a perfect fit even in those ten games. We were defensively opened up far too easily even in those first 10 games at times. As Pep has said often defending starts from the front, from what Kun does. It isn't just about pressing it's about dropping intelligently into midfield to support those players. It's about knowing when to pass and when to shoot. Aguero is a striker, a killer in the box, but he's pretty useless the further away from goal he gets.

I think it's a bit sad to start claiming that people are just trying to talk Kun down because "we have a shiny new player". It's nonsense firstly, and secondly the facts don't come close to backing it up. You can be loyal to Kun, love him even as a player and a man, but still acknowledge that the marriage between him and Pep seems an uneasy one at best.

 

[RayCTID]

He was on the bench for the first game of the 2 because he got a knock in the game before and the kids were on fire and deserved to keep their places,he has been out for 2 whole games,way too much being made of it imo,but then you want us to stop looking back at 2012 and move on as we look like rags and dippers so excuse me if i don't take your opinion seriously

Guardiola has already moved Hart on instantly. Initatally he thought Kun was adaptable and a player he could work with and as much as we all want him to be still part of it Guardiola has changed his mind on the player and doesn't think he is capable or the player isn't willing to. As for the other comment that was tongue in cheek.

 

[kaz7]

Fucking superb, sums a minority of our support to a tee.



Aguero drops too deep on a regular basis and this is usually when he's out of form and not taking his chances, he then decides he's got to do it all in his own and ends up taking too many touches which is detrimental to his natural game.
He's a hero to me and tens of thousands of others but if he can't play in the system we play then he won't start.
It's that simple.
As for his performance v Barcelona, if he can do it that day surely you should be asking yourself why he's not done it more often.
Finally, he's missed 7 games through his own stupidity, that for me, especially with Jesus hitting the ground running, was enough of a reason to leave him out. No player should be guaranteed a start especially when others have stepped up to the plate, instead of making veiled threats to the press he should concentrate on getting his starting position back.
Now none of this is me saying I want him gone, I hope he can form a partnership with Jesus with both Sane and Sterling out wide, KDB and Silva behind them, Fernandinho behind them and a quality back 3. That line up would walk everything in my opinion.

Yes he has been banned because he was stupid,he was fine up till then and worked in peps system fine,the kids deserved to keep their places which is fine by me,i think this getting rid attitude some "blues" have is wrong,a 19yr old will not be consistant every game and we need sergio to stay,if pep does make him go i will hate him for it as is my right no matter who has a go at me

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Kun wasn't a perfect fit even in those ten games. We were defensively opened up far too easily even in those first 10 games at times. As Pep has said often defending starts from the front, from what Kun does. It isn't just about pressing it's about dropping intelligently into midfield to support those players. It's about knowing when to pass and when to shoot. Aguero is a striker, a killer in the box, but he's pretty useless the further away from goal he gets.

I think it's a bit sad to start claiming that people are just trying to talk Kun down because "we have a shiny new player". It's nonsense firstly, and secondly the facts don't come close to backing it up. You can be loyal to Kun, love him even as a player and a man, but still acknowledge that the marriage between him and Pep seems an uneasy one at best.

Agree with a lot you are saying, but i from what i've read it's been Jesus this Jesus that and Kun's lost it.
Sorry if the makes me sad.

 

[BillyShears]

Agree with a lot you are saying, but i from what i've read it's been Jesus this Jesus that and Kun's lost it.
Sorry if the makes me sad.

You don't have to apologise, I just think that the tone that takes is unnecessary and maybe you're not really reading what people are posting. For the most part all i've read is people either saying that think Jesus is a better fit and should keep his place in the team or that Kun and him should be accommodated together. Not read any "Kun's lost it" posts but if there is the odd one it won't be what the majority are saying. The majority, like you, sound offended at the very notion Kun could be sold/dropped.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

You don't have to apologise, I just think that the tone that takes is unnecessary and maybe you're not really reading what people are posting. For the most part all i've read is people either saying that think Jesus is a better fit and should keep his place in the team or that Kun and him should be accommodated together. Not read any "Kun's lost it" posts but if there is the odd one it won't be what the majority are saying. The majority, like you, sound offended at the very notion Kun could be sold/dropped.

Not at all. It would be a shame if Kun left, but we are moving in the right direction and
City is the one constant.

 

[The Richard Wright Fan Club]

Yes but think of the potential for a chant!

Mbappe, ohh, ohh, yeah, yeah?