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#SOO Save Our Olé Season III.....Ole, The Trilogy.....We've Failed.....Thank You Ole.
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super_city_si
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His interview after the game was telling. He didnt have a clue. He was basically asked what went wrong and how can you fix it and he just had that bemused half smile on his face. He has no idea What So ever.
its beautiful.
its beautiful.
jimharri
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Arsenal didn't. Jumped above utd with that win today.Other teams doing their bit.
#splitters
Jasonrobards83
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I hope nobody in America reads the Guradian!
This below wasn’t actually in the article, it was a comment attached and I hope 'Dubhghaill' doesn't mind if I paste it here for people’s amusement, it is such an interesting read. Although he hasn't quite concluded it as I would: basically having 70,000 plus fans cheering you on is great when things are going well. When things aren’t, its better to be in an almost empty stadium. OGS is finding this out now fans are allowed back in...
“In a sense, OGS has overachieved as United manager, though.
Let me explain:
Since becoming permanent Manager at Old Trafford, Ole's taken charge of 95 leagues games. He's won 46 of them (drawn 27, lost 22). That's a mediocre win record of 48%ish.
Yet he's managed to finish 3rd and 2nd in his two full seasons in charge, which is quite literally unprecedented in the 38 game Premier League era (26 seasons and counting), so Ole can rightfully claim he has managed something no other manager in all that time has...
He finished 3rd in 19-20 with 66 points. Only once (Late Evans era Liverpool, 97-98, with 65 points) has a team finished as high with so little accumulation. In fact, only four teams have finished inside the top 4 in that time with fewer points (Villa 95-96 with 63, the aforementioned Liverpool team two seasons later, Liverpool again in Houllier's last season, 03-04, with 60, and Everton the following season with 61).
He also finished second last season with 74 points. This is the fifth lowest points total to finish so high in those 26 seasons, "bettered" only by Newcastle in 96-97 (68) and Arsenal in 99-00 (73), 00-01 (70) and again in 15-16 (71). In fact, Ole managed to finish second in the league last season with a points total that is less than the median for a top 4 finish in that 26 year period (only 40 of 106 teams have finished in any of those positions with lower points totals).
All of which is a very dry and stat heavy way of saying: OGS didn't just get mediocre this last month, He has been since he took charge. He's also been very fortunate in what that mediocrity has been good enough for outsized rewards (and no little misplaced acclaim and good PR as a result)... And he's spent around €500m in that time on transfers and signing on fees alone.
Man United do spin and PR better than anyone. And that happenstance has aided Ole and his team to achieve league finishes their records don't "deserve" in a historical context, so much so that he's been not only shielded from criticism over his tactics or coaching up to now, but actively lauded as a "game changer" or "breath of fresh air" etc. for United is testament to that. This week a rescue act from an aging Superstar against a team struggling domestically was being touted as a great leap forward. Today we get Ole digging up his discarded 5-3-2 and hoping it works. It doesn't.
He's just not good enough. And his team aren't much better"
This below wasn’t actually in the article, it was a comment attached and I hope 'Dubhghaill' doesn't mind if I paste it here for people’s amusement, it is such an interesting read. Although he hasn't quite concluded it as I would: basically having 70,000 plus fans cheering you on is great when things are going well. When things aren’t, its better to be in an almost empty stadium. OGS is finding this out now fans are allowed back in...
“In a sense, OGS has overachieved as United manager, though.
Let me explain:
Since becoming permanent Manager at Old Trafford, Ole's taken charge of 95 leagues games. He's won 46 of them (drawn 27, lost 22). That's a mediocre win record of 48%ish.
Yet he's managed to finish 3rd and 2nd in his two full seasons in charge, which is quite literally unprecedented in the 38 game Premier League era (26 seasons and counting), so Ole can rightfully claim he has managed something no other manager in all that time has...
He finished 3rd in 19-20 with 66 points. Only once (Late Evans era Liverpool, 97-98, with 65 points) has a team finished as high with so little accumulation. In fact, only four teams have finished inside the top 4 in that time with fewer points (Villa 95-96 with 63, the aforementioned Liverpool team two seasons later, Liverpool again in Houllier's last season, 03-04, with 60, and Everton the following season with 61).
He also finished second last season with 74 points. This is the fifth lowest points total to finish so high in those 26 seasons, "bettered" only by Newcastle in 96-97 (68) and Arsenal in 99-00 (73), 00-01 (70) and again in 15-16 (71). In fact, Ole managed to finish second in the league last season with a points total that is less than the median for a top 4 finish in that 26 year period (only 40 of 106 teams have finished in any of those positions with lower points totals).
All of which is a very dry and stat heavy way of saying: OGS didn't just get mediocre this last month, He has been since he took charge. He's also been very fortunate in what that mediocrity has been good enough for outsized rewards (and no little misplaced acclaim and good PR as a result)... And he's spent around €500m in that time on transfers and signing on fees alone.
Man United do spin and PR better than anyone. And that happenstance has aided Ole and his team to achieve league finishes their records don't "deserve" in a historical context, so much so that he's been not only shielded from criticism over his tactics or coaching up to now, but actively lauded as a "game changer" or "breath of fresh air" etc. for United is testament to that. This week a rescue act from an aging Superstar against a team struggling domestically was being touted as a great leap forward. Today we get Ole digging up his discarded 5-3-2 and hoping it works. It doesn't.
He's just not good enough. And his team aren't much better"
jimharri
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That's my boy!
That's my boy!
Dead man walking
jimharri
Moderator
Shush.Dead man walking