Spanish FA President Luis Rubiales | Resigns (p 34)

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

He jumped on her like a lightweight boxer.

From behind?!

 

[SebastianBlue]

The guy was clearly out of order. He should have apologised unhesitatingly. Maybe offered to resign.
I'm a bit bemused, though, that this has become a national issue, and it's being talked about all over Europe (don't know about the States or Canada, is it being reported in the press there?). It's kind of sad that it's actually overshadowed the Spanish women's fine performance. To me, it now seems disproportionate, but he's brought it on himself to a considerable extent not merely by doing it in the first place, but then by his reaction.
I also find it kind of odd that there a photo of her lifting him up — both feet clearly off the ground, before that. Or has that photo been discredited since, as having been photoshopped in some way?

Definitely read my OP and subsequent posts and watch that minidoc from the Twxxtxr thread a page or two back if you are interested in learning why this was by no means an isolated event and so shouldn’t be assessed as such.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Anybody remember Adrian Brody getting the Oscar for best actor from Halle Berry? She was clearly deeply pissed off about it. Very different situation, admittedly (Brody not in any official position representing an entire organisation) — but similar in that it was very, very public, and that guys will give themselves licence to do things publicly with girls who they don't know from Adam (or rather, Eve), where no woman would do any such thing.

Edit: actually, just re-watched it. Not clear that she's deeply pissed off, to be honest. I think she's just too bloody amazed to really know how to react.

 

[Stoned Rose]

And that is their right.

As is a woman’s right to be arsed about it, because they have agency just like men, and the power dynamics between men and women—and especially Rubiales, Hermoso, and the rest of the women’s team—have been and continue to be drastically different, leading to dominant and wholly inappropriate behaviour that women have every right to call out as unacceptable.

In this case, the women impacted have said it was wrong, and he has refused to acknowledge that or take responsibility for it.

It doesn’t matter what your or my female family members think about it—what the women involved think about it is all that matters.

For the record, my female family members in Spain are split on it, largely on an age basis, as older women in Spain are conditioned to tolerate all manner of bad behaviour and treatment from men under religious tenets of the woman’s role being to serve the head of the household (as “Jesus was head of the church, so is the man of his family”). For example, my abuela was physically and mentally abused for for 40 years by my alcoholic abuelo, and no matter how much I and a few other young cousins pleaded with her to leave him (and get a divorce), she refused to do so, right up until he committed suicide, leaving her with all manner of nonsense to deal with in his absence. We all had to come together to help her out of the mess he left and in some ways are still doing that even after her passing.

Thanks, mum.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Thanks, mum.

No greater compliment could be paid.

 

[Stoned Rose]

No greater compliment could be paid.

In all seriousness mate I take your points and don’t disagree.

All I was pointing out was that it’s not every female who’s outraged about it.

 

[Jogon 127]

It’s whether you think it’s right or wrong is simply the case.30 years ago he’d have been called out for not having more of a grope.

I know women who wouldn’t bat an eyelid on this and think it’s all been blown out of proportion, whilst I know others that think he should be hung.

Of course he should lose his job, a complete dick head for thinking it’s okay. Imagine if this was your Mrs/daughter/Mum/sister/Auntie etc…..

He’ll resign eventually, tough shit and good riddance to the prick.

 

[SebastianBlue]

 

[Jogon 127]

I agree Kaz, as I said it’s poor judgement by him, I’ve worked in London and nearly every female in the Office had been touched up on the tube. One of the girls who spoke her mind actually had the misfortune to see a guy choking his chicken, she told him in a very loud voice what a dirty bastard he was.

All I’m saying is it’s a bit OTT but he should be sacked from his €215k a year job, I wouldn’t have thought trying to take this through the courts would end up satisfactory as it would be expensive and he’d have a reasonable chance of beating sexual harassment charges. The fact this is so public would make it difficult to select a jury who would be impartial and his lawyers would argue that. He should apologise unreservedly and sacked, I think that would send a clear message about this type of behaviour.

He should be sacked / resign. Especially in his position, and the World we live in….he should know better.

 

[jollylescott]

It is attitudes like that that women hate , women get touched up and kissed on the tube and in pubs etc , but they are hardly rapists you say , it has to stop , me too needs to be a thing in spain, finally , he forced himself on her by holding her head like he did , that is so wrong and he needs to fuck off , this is not the first time he has been inappropriate and the other men clapping him shows the collective attitude to women in spain

Well said Kaz.