Spanish Mundo ABC: Mourinho made a deal vith Manchester City

chesterbells said:
The idea that continuity in and of itself will bring success is an enormous myth. People always quote taggart and wenger, but they've stayed because of their success not vice versa. Real Madrid have swapped managers lots and won plenty.
If every club in the league kept their manager for 15 years would it mean they would all be successful? Too much emphasis gets placed on the long term, on continuity, in football. Teams progress can't be planned in a progression of improvement.
I can't see the problem with a team who brings in a coach who is successful for 4 years then leaves: so what? The club and it's wider structure continues intact.

Incidentally Ferguson didnt win anything for his first two seasons a poorer record than Mancini and Wenger didint win anything in his first full season in charge either. So they were kept irrespective of their early record and continual success followed.

No one is saying we should keep a manager 15 years without success, we already have a manager in place who has already achieved success, thats the issue why change it. We have the squad and the manager in place to deliver that success why change that when we have no guarantee of the results?
 
robbieh said:
I assume you are alluding to Cook/Valdano. However there is a difference between behind the scenes posturing and the constant bad press Mourinho has attracted to Madrid.

Talking to a Madrid supporter today and he's not bothered whether Mourinho goes or not. Obviously he sees his managerial quality but he doesn't like the general mayhem surrounding the club since Jose has been there. As he says, and he's not alone, it's all about Mourinho.

That's interesting to read. Did the supporter say who he would prefer to have in charge(if he did go)? Rafa the gaffer perhaps?
 
chesterbells said:
robbieh said:
I assume you are alluding to Cook/Valdano. However there is a difference between behind the scenes posturing and the constant bad press Mourinho has attracted to Madrid.

Talking to a Madrid supporter today and he's not bothered whether Mourinho goes or not. Obviously he sees his managerial quality but he doesn't like the general mayhem surrounding the club since Jose has been there. As he says, and he's not alone, it's all about Mourinho.

That's interesting to read. Did the supporter say who he would prefer to have in charge? Rafa the gaffer perhaps?

Bielsa was mentioned.
 
robbieh said:
chesterbells said:
robbieh said:
I assume you are alluding to Cook/Valdano. However there is a difference between behind the scenes posturing and the constant bad press Mourinho has attracted to Madrid.

Talking to a Madrid supporter today and he's not bothered whether Mourinho goes or not. Obviously he sees his managerial quality but he doesn't like the general mayhem surrounding the club since Jose has been there. As he says, and he's not alone, it's all about Mourinho.

That's interesting to read. Did the supporter say who he would prefer to have in charge? Rafa the gaffer perhaps?

Bielsa was mentioned.

Can't say I'm surprised.
 
robbieh said:
chesterbells said:
robbieh said:
I assume you are alluding to Cook/Valdano. However there is a difference between behind the scenes posturing and the constant bad press Mourinho has attracted to Madrid.

Talking to a Madrid supporter today and he's not bothered whether Mourinho goes or not. Obviously he sees his managerial quality but he doesn't like the general mayhem surrounding the club since Jose has been there. As he says, and he's not alone, it's all about Mourinho.

That's interesting to read. Did the supporter say who he would prefer to have in charge? Rafa the gaffer perhaps?

Bielsa was mentioned.

Chelsea have been sniffing around him for a while now, he's certainly a wanted man in the summer
 
Danamy said:
Chelsea have been sniffing around him for a while now, he's certainly a wanted man in the summer

Is it true he doesn't speak a word of English ?
 
franksinatra said:
chesterbells said:
The idea that continuity in and of itself will bring success is an enormous myth. People always quote taggart and wenger, but they've stayed because of their success not vice versa. Real Madrid have swapped managers lots and won plenty.
If every club in the league kept their manager for 15 years would it mean they would all be successful? Too much emphasis gets placed on the long term, on continuity, in football. Teams progress can't be planned in a progression of improvement.
I can't see the problem with a team who brings in a coach who is successful for 4 years then leaves: so what? The club and it's wider structure continues intact.

Incidentally Ferguson didnt win anything for his first two seasons a poorer record than Mancini and Wenger didint win anything in his first full season in charge either. So they were kept irrespective of their early record and continual success followed.

No one is saying we should keep a manager 15 years without success, we already have a manager in place who has already achieved success, thats the issue why change it. We have the squad and the manager in place to deliver that success why change that when we have no guarantee of the results?

Oh dear, here we go again. Taggart joined them nov 86 according to wiki. In 87-88 - his first full season - he finished second: that sounds like a pretty good first full season in charge to me?? So I don't accept he was kept "despite" "only" finishing 2nd.
 
BillyShears said:
Danamy said:
Chelsea have been sniffing around him for a while now, he's certainly a wanted man in the summer

Is it true he doesn't speak a word of English ?

Ranieri #2, I wonder if he rotates a lot....
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Danamy said:
He'll get the phone call = he'll be in charge of us next season
He wont get the phone call = stays at Real

We hold the cards this time.........................
There's a third scenario. He makes the phone call....

That'd be enough for me
 

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