Spanish Mundo ABC: Mourinho made a deal vith Manchester City

Prestwich_Blue said:
Danamy said:
He'll get the phone call = he'll be in charge of us next season
He wont get the phone call = stays at Real

We hold the cards this time.........................
There's a third scenario. He makes the phone call....

What happens if there is an engaged tone? ;-)
 
blueinsa said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Danamy said:
He'll get the phone call = he'll be in charge of us next season
He wont get the phone call = stays at Real

We hold the cards this time.........................
There's a third scenario. He makes the phone call....

What happens if there is an engaged tone? ;-)

Poke him on Facebook.
 
chesterbells said:
lionheart said:
So if we win the league this year, Mancini stays. If we fail, Mourinho comes. It looks like a win win scenario to me.

Wisdom from Dubai

Oh how times have changed as a City fan! One of the best managers, or possibly "The" best manager. I would prefer we stick with Bobby and get a quality pair to replace Cook and Marwood.
 
robbieh said:
I assume you are alluding to Cook/Valdano. However there is a difference between behind the scenes posturing and the constant bad press Mourinho has attracted to Madrid.

Talking to a Madrid supporter today and he's not bothered whether Mourinho goes or not. Obviously he sees his managerial quality but he doesn't like the general mayhem surrounding the club since Jose has been there. As he says, and he's not alone, it's all about Mourinho.

Discussion of Mourinho's character and his "ways" is always interesting. I think it's unfair to talk about the mayhem at Madrid, and at Inter previously, without giving it some context. He was loathed in Italy from the day he arrived for no other reason that he wasn't Italian and was managing one of the preeminent Italian clubs. He was given zero respect. Yes, he's an arrogant loudmouth in press conferences, but i still believe his treatment by the general footballing establishment there was shoddy. They were lucky to have a manager of his talents managing in that league at a time when it was at one of it's lowest ebbs. Hell, our resident Inter troll loathes Mourinho and takes any and every opportunity to take a swipe at him. This is a guy who won them the much coveted CL as well as continuing Mancini's tradition of winning the league at a relative canter.

At Madrid it's a different set of politics. The mayhem is caused by the insanity of the situation. Madrid loathe Barcelona. Mourinho loathes Barcelona. Barcelona are supposedly the "best team ever". Yet even with the insanity Madrid sit six points clear at the top of the league and have one foot in the CL semi final. All this with the mayhem as a backdrop. And yet still some Madrid fans don't like him. That club just love shooting itself in the foot.

I've said a number of times - when it comes time to find a successor for Mancini, I'd prefer the club were more progressive and looked at someone like Jurgen Klopp from Dortmund. Mourinho isn't my first choice at all. However, those are personal reasons and I would never sit here and yell and scream about how I don't want him because he's arrogant or he causes chaos or he'll only be here for a few years. I can see he's the best in the business and if he came City would almost certainly dominate domestic and possibly European football for his entire tenure.
 
chesterbells said:
franksinatra said:
chesterbells said:
The idea that continuity in and of itself will bring success is an enormous myth. People always quote taggart and wenger, but they've stayed because of their success not vice versa. Real Madrid have swapped managers lots and won plenty.
If every club in the league kept their manager for 15 years would it mean they would all be successful? Too much emphasis gets placed on the long term, on continuity, in football. Teams progress can't be planned in a progression of improvement.
I can't see the problem with a team who brings in a coach who is successful for 4 years then leaves: so what? The club and it's wider structure continues intact.

Incidentally Ferguson didnt win anything for his first two seasons a poorer record than Mancini and Wenger didint win anything in his first full season in charge either. So they were kept irrespective of their early record and continual success followed.

No one is saying we should keep a manager 15 years without success, we already have a manager in place who has already achieved success, thats the issue why change it. We have the squad and the manager in place to deliver that success why change that when we have no guarantee of the results?

Oh dear, here we go again. Taggart joined them nov 86 according to wiki. In 87-88 - his first full season - he finished second: that sounds like a pretty good first full season in charge to me?? So I don't accept he was kept "despite" "only" finishing 2nd.

We will finish a minimum of second this year, but that is not good enough for you?

Was it six years before he lifted a cahmpionship, but you want to replace ours after two?

Also the following two seasons he finished elevneth and fourteenth
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Seosa said:
I'm a huge Mancini fan and would love to see what we've got at the moment work out, but the idea of Mourinho and the Tranny arriving in the summer is incredibly alluring, despite what would result in the loss of Mancini and most probably Balotelli. The only worry I would have with Mourinho is would he actually have the gall to sack us after a year or two and join the Scum when Taggart fucks off? If he were to join us you'd like to think not, but its the only thing that would worry me about him joining. However, it could be said that if he does join us, the chances of him replacing Slur deplete rather rapidly....


United wouldn't be able to afford the compensation package.

City would put a ridiculous figure to ensure that scenario could ever be entertained.

Mourinho is also a big family guy, he knows it would compromise his and their safety.


Don't think Mourinho would even consider leaving City for the Rags but whether he would join us in the first place if he thought he had a decent chance of succeeding Slur is quite another thing.
 
Seosa said:
Ranieri #2, I wonder if he rotates a lot....

Haha. Apparently quite the opposite. Bilbao's form has dropped off in the league and I read somewhere that's because Biesla has rotated very little between the Europa league and their domestic competition.
 
sjk2008 said:
Fotball fans are fickle.

When Mourinho comes and wins you a treble inside his first two seasons (including a league or two and at least a champions league final appearance) there wont be much hatred for him then, I'll be sure of that.

yep, just like half of the forum already eats from Tevez's palm after one assist
 
BillyShears said:
robbieh said:
I assume you are alluding to Cook/Valdano. However there is a difference between behind the scenes posturing and the constant bad press Mourinho has attracted to Madrid.

Talking to a Madrid supporter today and he's not bothered whether Mourinho goes or not. Obviously he sees his managerial quality but he doesn't like the general mayhem surrounding the club since Jose has been there. As he says, and he's not alone, it's all about Mourinho.

Discussion of Mourinho's character and his "ways" is always interesting. I think it's unfair to talk about the mayhem at Madrid, and at Inter previously, without giving it some context. He was loathed in Italy from the day he arrived for no other reason that he wasn't Italian and was managing one of the preeminent Italian clubs. He was given zero respect. Yes, he's an arrogant loudmouth in press conferences, but i still believe his treatment by the general footballing establishment there was shoddy. They were lucky to have a manager of his talents managing in that league at a time when it was at one of it's lowest ebbs. Hell, our resident Inter troll loathes Mourinho and takes any and every opportunity to take a swipe at him. This is a guy who won them the much coveted CL as well as continuing Mancini's tradition of winning the league at a relative canter.

At Madrid it's a different set of politics. The mayhem is caused by the insanity of the situation. Madrid loathe Barcelona. Mourinho loathes Barcelona. Barcelona are supposedly the "best team ever". Yet even with the insanity Madrid sit six points clear at the top of the league and have one foot in the CL semi final. All this with the mayhem as a backdrop. And yet still some Madrid fans don't like him. That club just love shooting itself in the foot.

I've said a number of times - when it comes time to find a successor for Mancini, I'd prefer the club were more progressive and looked at someone like Jurgen Klopp from Dortmund. Mourinho isn't my first choice at all. However, those are personal reasons and I would never sit here and yell and scream about how I don't want him because he's arrogant or he causes chaos or he'll only be here for a few years. I can see he's the best in the business and if he came City would almost certainly dominate domestic and possibly European football for his entire tenure.

good post billy<br /><br />-- Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:52 pm --<br /><br />
BillyShears said:
robbieh said:
I assume you are alluding to Cook/Valdano. However there is a difference between behind the scenes posturing and the constant bad press Mourinho has attracted to Madrid.

Talking to a Madrid supporter today and he's not bothered whether Mourinho goes or not. Obviously he sees his managerial quality but he doesn't like the general mayhem surrounding the club since Jose has been there. As he says, and he's not alone, it's all about Mourinho.

Discussion of Mourinho's character and his "ways" is always interesting. I think it's unfair to talk about the mayhem at Madrid, and at Inter previously, without giving it some context. He was loathed in Italy from the day he arrived for no other reason that he wasn't Italian and was managing one of the preeminent Italian clubs. He was given zero respect. Yes, he's an arrogant loudmouth in press conferences, but i still believe his treatment by the general footballing establishment there was shoddy. They were lucky to have a manager of his talents managing in that league at a time when it was at one of it's lowest ebbs. Hell, our resident Inter troll loathes Mourinho and takes any and every opportunity to take a swipe at him. This is a guy who won them the much coveted CL as well as continuing Mancini's tradition of winning the league at a relative canter.

At Madrid it's a different set of politics. The mayhem is caused by the insanity of the situation. Madrid loathe Barcelona. Mourinho loathes Barcelona. Barcelona are supposedly the "best team ever". Yet even with the insanity Madrid sit six points clear at the top of the league and have one foot in the CL semi final. All this with the mayhem as a backdrop. And yet still some Madrid fans don't like him. That club just love shooting itself in the foot.

I've said a number of times - when it comes time to find a successor for Mancini, I'd prefer the club were more progressive and looked at someone like Jurgen Klopp from Dortmund. Mourinho isn't my first choice at all. However, those are personal reasons and I would never sit here and yell and scream about how I don't want him because he's arrogant or he causes chaos or he'll only be here for a few years. I can see he's the best in the business and if he came City would almost certainly dominate domestic and possibly European football for his entire tenure.

good post billy
 

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