It's going to be really interesting if City do object to the pitch, particularly given this is entirely Spurs' responsibility. I'd love to know what they've said behind the scenes about their expectations. They absolutely will have done.
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Spurs’ new stadium
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M18CTID
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Some of our crowds in the mid to late 80’s were pretty shocking, the 10-1 being a case in point.
They look shocking on the face of it but relative to other clubs at the time and considering we spent 4 out of 10 seasons in the 2nd division during the 1980's, our crowds held up really well.
I don't have the exact figures to hand but as far as league games go, out of all the clubs in England we had the 3rd highest "lowest" league crowd during the 80's. Only United and Liverpool bettered us. United got 23k+ vs Wimbledon, and Liverpool 17k+ against someone who I can't remember. Our lowest league crowd that decade was 15k+ vs Reading and Millwall.
For comparison, Everton dropped to around 13k when they wanted Kendall out, Arsenal got 13k for one game in about 1983 when they were something like 3rd in the league, Spurs dropped below 10k at the back end of the 85-86 season, Chelsea dropped below 10k at various points (as they did in the 90's too), and I think Newcastle flirted with going below 5 figures as well. So 3 of the so-called Big Five at the time recorded lower league crowds than City during the 80's, despite being top-flight ever-presents throughout the decade whereas we went through 2 relegations.
They look shocking on the face of it but relative to other clubs at the time and considering we spent 4 out of 10 seasons in the 2nd division during the 1980's, our crowds held up really well.
Exceptionally well, in fact. In pure numbers terms, our worst season for gates in the last 50 years was 1987/8. Our average that season was 19,472. We finished ninth in the second tier (which equated to 30th in the entire pyramid). Yet we still came in with better gates than the top-flight average of 19,277. Source: http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
The English game in the mid and late 1980s featured crumbling stadiums, terrace violence, dismal football, fans being treated like shit by the football authorities and the police, and a welter of meaningless games with no English sides qualifying for Europe, so gates were pretty pathetic across the country. In that context and bearing in mind our on-field performances, our figures were actually very creditable. The mid-sixties pre-Joe and Mal was another story, of course, and that's where to look if anyone wants to have a pop at our attendance figures.
I trust everyone saw Spurs attendance vs Cardiff City? 43,000. Shocking.
The huge variance in Spurs attendances confirms the rather fickle nature of their support (and their large stadium). Other sides that I have a strong impression of large changes in crowds: Villa.
Sides with a large and stable hard core support come what may: City, Sunderland, Everton, Newcastle
i'm pretty sure that there was an attendance restriction in place, weeks before this fixture, i remember reading that weeks ago. God knows why though.
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Not even close to being shocking. 43000 not in their own stadium is very good. They took a cracking following to Milton Keynes and have had some brilliant attendances at Wembley.I trust everyone saw Spurs attendance vs Cardiff City? 43,000. Shocking.
The huge variance in Spurs attendances confirms the rather fickle nature of their support (and their large stadium). Other sides that I have a strong impression of large changes in crowds: Villa.
Sides with a large and stable hard core support come what may: City, Sunderland, Everton, Newcastle
Our average attendance in the CL is around 43000. We used to steadily get 25000 for domestic cup for years at the CoMS and the same for Europa Lg games when we were in that bar the Hamburg game.
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pace89
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It's also worth remembering that under the Swales regime our attendances seemed to have been routinely under reported. My guess would be that we actually averaged over 20k in 87-88.Exceptionally well, in fact. In pure numbers terms, our worst season for gates in the last 50 years was 1987/8. Our average that season was 19,472. We finished ninth in the second tier (which equated to 30th in the entire pyramid). Yet we still came in with better gates than the top-flight average of 19,277. Source: http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
The English game in the mid and late 1980s featured crumbling stadiums, terrace violence, dismal football, fans being treated like shit by the football authorities and the police, and a welter of meaningless games with no English sides qualifying for Europe, so gates were pretty pathetic across the country. In that context and bearing in mind our on-field performances, our figures were actually very creditable. The mid-sixties pre-Joe and Mal was another story, of course, and that's where to look if anyone wants to have a pop at our attendance figures.
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They just didn't bother opening the top tier. Probably costs a bomb to pay for staffing it all. The same happened in the Rugby League Challenge Cup Final at Wembley the other month as one of the teams was from the South of France and they brought 7000 fans over. I think the capacity of Wembley without the top tier is 47000.i'm pretty sure that there was an attendance restriction in place, weeks before this fixture, i remember reading that weeks ago. God knows why though.
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Must have missed the media outrage at that attendance?Not even close to being shocking. 43000 not in their own stadium is very good. They took a cracking following to Milton Keynes and have had some brilliant attendances at Wembley.
Our average attendance in the CL is around 43000. We used to steadily get 25000 for domestic cup for years at the CoMS and the same for Europa Lg games when we were in that bar the Hamburg game.
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Horse of the year show ?Jeeez NFL, Joshua fight... Anything else? Maybe they been booking it out for rallying or dirt biking.
Imagine the uproar if City player gets injured on that mess, especially since it will get brushed under the carpet like the rest of the debacle...
... We should take one look at the pitch and if not good enough dont play. At the very least we should highlight it to fuck before the game so they cant brush it under the carpet afterwards