Spurs’ new stadium

[JimB]

If Brighton won they would be playing the semi final so the league game would be rearranged anyway.

If Brighton are knocked out and able to fulfil the fixture it spurs that can't due their incompetence the league should come down on them like a ton of bricks but wont.

Said it before and I’ll say it again. This is an absolute disgrace.

Only two clubs would be able to get away with this, and the other one is the dippers.

It would be utterly ridiculous for the FA to punish Spurs for this potential fixture clash. And no, they wouldn't punish any other club either, given identical circumstances. Really.....there's an awful lot of grasping at straws in evidence on this thread. Why does it matter to you so much?

Besides which, before anyone works themselves into a hot lather about it, why not wait for the result of the Millwall vs Brighton game? For that matter, why not wait to see whether the new stadium might at last be ready by then? By all accounts, remedial work has finally been completed and testing and integration of the safety systems is now well advanced.

 

[hello]

It would be utterly ridiculous for the FA to punish Spurs for this potential fixture clash.

Why would it it be ridiculous, whose responsibility is it to manage the project if its not Spurs? Should Brighton be punished if they lose to Milwall?

If Spurs are unable to fulfil a scheduled fixture of course the League has a right to investigate and punish.

See section 31 of the football league rules ( The premier league may be slightly differnt but I am sure the gist is the same)

31

Penalty for Non-Fulfilment of Fixture Obligations

31.1

Any Club failing to fulfil its fixture obligations in respect of any match under the jurisdiction of The League on the appointed date or dates or causing The League to suspend any fixture shall be deemed guilty of misconduct, unless the circumstances giving rise to such failure are outside the control of the Club and could not have been reasonably foreseen or reasonably anticipated and remedied prior to the match. Every Club shall carry out regular and appropriate maintenance and checks to ensure that its safety certificate is not suspended or withdrawn.

31.2

The Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend such fixture shall be liable to pay compensation for any expenses actually incurred by the opposing Club as a direct result of the failure or suspension. The amount of compensation will be at the discretion of the Board who will consider every such case on its merits. The Board may refer the amount of compensation to be paid to the Disciplinary Commission dealing with the misconduct by the Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend the same.

I am sure Jim and Daniel et al will plead " unless the circumstances giving rise to such failure are outside the control of the Club and could not have been reasonably foreseen or reasonably anticipated." The fact that even us stupid City fans can anticipate it this far in advance should rule that out of the equation. This notion of its the sub contractors fault is nonsense and just typical of the its not my fault pass the buck culture of modern society.

 

[DiscoSteve]

they'll just move it to a Thursday on a week where they're playing on a Tuesday - they'll suffer two mid week games thats all

 

[JimB]

Why would it it be ridiculous, whose responsibility is it to manage the project if its not Spurs? Should Brighton be punished if they lose to Milwall?

If Spurs are unable to fulfil a scheduled fixture of course the League has a right to investigate and punish.

I am sure Jim and Daniel et al will plead " unless the circumstances giving rise to such failure are outside the control of the Club and could not have been reasonably foreseen or reasonably anticipated." The fact that even us stupid City fans can anticipate it this far in advance should rule that out of the equation. This notion of its the sub contractors fault is nonsense and just typical of the its not my fault pass the buck culture of modern society.

Spurs are a football club; not a construction company. They appointed Mace as construction manager. A construction manager’s legal responsibilities include drawing up a realistic schedule; supervising all work on site; and advising the client.

It is not Spurs’ job to second guess Mace on matters construction any more than it is Mace’s job to second guess Spurs on matters football. If Mace repeatedly told Spurs that the stadium would be ready, though far from finished, by September 15th, it was perfectly reasonable for Spurs to believe them. If one of the subcontractors made an almighty ballsup throughout the stadium, then the buck stops with Mace because it was their responsibility to supervise the work.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Haha so it wasn't the dipper/Chelsea fans fault when our coach got bricked it was the corner shops/supermarkets that sold them the bottles.

 

[Crouchinho]

Haha so it wasn't the dipper/Chelsea fans fault when our coach got bricked it was the corner shops/supermarkets that sold them the bottles.

At least come out with a sensible post. Im not sure why people are getting offended and their knickers in a knot over Spurs' stadium, if it was West Ham this forum wouldnt say a word. Spurs fans are pissed off, Levy is pissed off and Im sure the NFL werent best pleased either. The FA dont mind they make some cash out of it all

 

[JimB]

Haha so it wasn't the dipper/Chelsea fans fault when our coach got bricked it was the corner shops/supermarkets that sold them the bottles.

Mate, really.................that has to be one of the poorest analogies I've ever come across!

As Crouchino said, it's hard to fathom why Spurs' new stadium delay matters so much to some of you. If the situation were reversed, and City found themselves in a similar quandary, I honestly wouldn't give a monkey's.

 

[Gordyola]

Mate, really.................that has to be one of the poorest analogies I've ever come across!

As Crouchino said, it's hard to fathom why Spurs' new stadium delay matters so much to some of you. If the situation were reversed, and City found themselves in a similar quandary, I honestly wouldn't give a monkey's.

Maybe we care for the integrity of the competition and you don’t? Or you see an advantage to be had from playing the last games of the season at a different venue than the majority of your home games this season, just maybe!

 

[JimB]

Maybe we care for the integrity of the competition and you don’t? Or you see an advantage to be had from playing the last games of the season at a different venue than the majority of your home games this season, just maybe!

How much will moving to the new stadium really affect the integrity of the competition? There are surely plenty of other factors that are far more likely to affect integrity: match officials; the fixture schedule; the wrongheaded loan system; clubs resting players; etc.

By the time that Spurs move into the new stadium this season (if they move into the new stadium this season), they will likely only have 5 games remaining - all against teams near the bottom of the table or in mid table at best. And since Spurs have won every home game against such teams this season, they can hardly expect to get better results against the remaining such teams at the new stadium.

So, no, the reason for Spurs wishing to move isn't because they hope to gain an unfair advantage. The reason is partly that every game they play at Wembley is costing them dearly, of course. But really, at heart, it's simply because they desperately want to go home. I would hope that such a sentiment, at least, resonates with all true football fans.

 

[Gordyola]

How much will moving to the new stadium really affect the integrity of the competition? There are surely plenty of other factors that are far more likely to affect integrity: match officials; the fixture schedule; the wrongheaded loan system; clubs resting players; etc.

By the time that Spurs move into the new stadium this season (if they move into the new stadium this season), they will likely only have 5 games remaining - all against teams near the bottom of the table or in mid table at best. And since Spurs have won every home game against such teams this season, they can hardly expect to get better results against the remaining such teams at the new stadium.

So, no, the reason for Spurs wishing to move isn't because they hope to gain an unfair advantage. The reason is partly that every game they play at Wembley is costing them dearly, of course. But really, at heart, it's simply because they desperately want to go home. I would hope that such a sentiment, at least, resonates with all true football fans.

A club must play all their fixtures at the same stadium and that should be an unbreakable rule end of.
There are example of clubs taking time to settle in to a new stadium, the early fixtures are like a neutral venue. What if a fixture against a regulation threatened team is played at NWHL they beat Spurs and those points keep them up?
This is Spurs’doing, blaming Mace is not an excuse, it was clear from the beginning that the plan was too ambitious, and no contingency allowed for, if it was then this mess wouldn’t have happened. The PL should after 4 games, or so, have ordered the fixtures for this season to be played at Wembley then any issues like the City game and now the possible problem with Brighton could be sorted in advance