Spurs’ new stadium

A club must play all their fixtures at the same stadium and that should be an unbreakable rule end of.
There are example of clubs taking time to settle in to a new stadium, the early fixtures are like a neutral venue. What if a fixture against a regulation threatened team is played at NWHL they beat Spurs and those points keep them up?
This is Spurs’doing, blaming Mace is not an excuse, it was clear from the beginning that the plan was too ambitious, and no contingency allowed for, if it was then this mess wouldn’t have happened. The PL should after 4 games, or so, have ordered the fixtures for this season to be played at Wembley then any issues like the City game and now the possible problem with Brighton could be sorted in advance

Sure, there are examples of clubs taking a while to settle into new stadiums. But Spurs ought to be more immune in that respect than most - for the simple reason that they aren't moving directly from their beloved, intimate, atmospheric, old home to a bigger, soulless new stadium on an anonymous, new site. They are, instead, moving directly from a cavernous, soulless, neutral stadium into a far more intimate stadium on almost exactly the same site as their old stadium.

As to the integrity of the competition, as I said, there are surely other factors that are far more likely to have a direct effect. Certain clubs that can afford to do so stockpile players and then loan them out to other clubs in the same league. Those players, quite often among the best players at their loan clubs, get to play against all teams in that league other than their parent club. Fair? Right? Or how about fixture scheduling? When Spurs were chasing Leicester a few years ago, they played after Leicester for something like six weeks in a row. Consequently, they were always having to claw back the gap from 8 points to 5 points. And that takes a toll. They were never given the opportunity to play before Leicester and reduce the gap to 2 points. We'll never know whether that might have made a difference.

As to Spurs using Mace as an excuse, it's not an excuse; it's a fact! Imagine if Manchester City were due to play a Champions League semi final against, say, Shakhtar Donetsk and the day before the game, the UK's air traffic control systems went down, grounding all flights to and from the UK. City wouldn't have time to get to Donetsk by other means so would be unable to fulfil the fixture. Would you say that it was fair and reasonable for the result to be declared a 3-0 win for Shakhtar? That blaming whoever was charged with maintaining air traffic control systems was just an excuse? That City should have anticipated that such a thing could happen and travelled a day earlier?
 
Mate, really.................that has to be one of the poorest analogies I've ever come across!

As Crouchino said, it's hard to fathom why Spurs' new stadium delay matters so much to some of you. If the situation were reversed, and City found themselves in a similar quandary, I honestly wouldn't give a monkey's.

I'm not that bothered by the stadium delay per se, barring amusement value.

The compliant FA approach is the thing that jars - I might have missed one, but I can't remember any criticism being published. Same goes for the PL, and much (not all) of the media. It seems inconsistent with other FA responses.
 
Sure, there are examples of clubs taking a while to settle into new stadiums. But Spurs ought to be more immune in that respect than most - for the simple reason that they aren't moving directly from their beloved, intimate, atmospheric, old home to a bigger, soulless new stadium on an anonymous, new site. They are, instead, moving directly from a cavernous, soulless, neutral stadium into a far more intimate stadium on almost exactly the same site as their old stadium.

As to the integrity of the competition, as I said, there are surely other factors that are far more likely to have a direct effect. Certain clubs that can afford to do so stockpile players and then loan them out to other clubs in the same league. Those players, quite often among the best players at their loan clubs, get to play against all teams in that league other than their parent club. Fair? Right? Or how about fixture scheduling? When Spurs were chasing Leicester a few years ago, they played after Leicester for something like six weeks in a row. Consequently, they were always having to claw back the gap from 8 points to 5 points. And that takes a toll. They were never given the opportunity to play before Leicester and reduce the gap to 2 points. We'll never know whether that might have made a difference.

As to Spurs using Mace as an excuse, it's not an excuse; it's a fact! Imagine if Manchester City were due to play a Champions League semi final against, say, Shakhtar Donetsk and the day before the game, the UK's air traffic control systems went down, grounding all flights to and from the UK. City wouldn't have time to get to Donetsk by other means so would be unable to fulfil the fixture. Would you say that it was fair and reasonable for the result to be declared a 3-0 win for Shakhtar? That blaming whoever was charged with maintaining air traffic control systems was just an excuse? That City should have anticipated that such a thing could happen and travelled a day earlier?
i agree on your post about loan players ,think its a bullshit rule that they cant play against their "mother" club, imo they should be loaned out to a different league altogether, as for playing in different stadiums doesn't matter where we play you were going to beat you :)
 
i agree on your post about loan players ,think its a bullshit rule that they cant play against their "mother" club, imo they should be loaned out to a different league altogether, as for playing in different stadiums doesn't matter where we play you were going to beat you :)

Ha! Yes, you do seem to have the Indian sign over us currently!
 
Sure, there are examples of clubs taking a while to settle into new stadiums. But Spurs ought to be more immune in that respect than most - for the simple reason that they aren't moving directly from their beloved, intimate, atmospheric, old home to a bigger, soulless new stadium on an anonymous, new site. They are, instead, moving directly from a cavernous, soulless, neutral stadium into a far more intimate stadium on almost exactly the same site as their old stadium.

As to the integrity of the competition, as I said, there are surely other factors that are far more likely to have a direct effect. Certain clubs that can afford to do so stockpile players and then loan them out to other clubs in the same league. Those players, quite often among the best players at their loan clubs, get to play against all teams in that league other than their parent club. Fair? Right? Or how about fixture scheduling? When Spurs were chasing Leicester a few years ago, they played after Leicester for something like six weeks in a row. Consequently, they were always having to claw back the gap from 8 points to 5 points. And that takes a toll. They were never given the opportunity to play before Leicester and reduce the gap to 2 points. We'll never know whether that might have made a difference.

As to Spurs using Mace as an excuse, it's not an excuse; it's a fact! Imagine if Manchester City were due to play a Champions League semi final against, say, Shakhtar Donetsk and the day before the game, the UK's air traffic control systems went down, grounding all flights to and from the UK. City wouldn't have time to get to Donetsk by other means so would be unable to fulfil the fixture. Would you say that it was fair and reasonable for the result to be declared a 3-0 win for Shakhtar? That blaming whoever was charged with maintaining air traffic control systems was just an excuse? That City should have anticipated that such a thing could happen and travelled a day earlier?

Jim
Para 1: thanks for proving my point

Para 2: The other factors you mention are consistent across the whole competition

Para 3: Spurs are responsible to the PL and the competition NOT Mace

Using an example of a last minute problem, "force majere" is ridculous to compare it to a Project Plan that was put in place before a brick was moved from OWHL. But to amuse you if City took all normal measures to fulfilled the requirements of the compettion, that is arriving in the host City 24 hours prior to KO, and due to circumstances totally beyond their control ie a unscheduled outage of control systmes, and it was impossible to get there by other means then City would not be punished. Its akin to suggesting that City should have been punished a few seasons agon for the Police cancelling a ECL at the last minute due to a storm making it dangerous to travel

Lets face it Jim in your eyes Spurs are literally whiter than white and are not to blame, its all someone eles's fault
 
It looks a terrific stadium though. People whinge about the times it’s taking, past deadline etc but once it’s open these things will be long forgotten. I’ll check it out. Think about the old stadiums for a minute and then think of them now. No comparison. Progress. Believe.
 
As to Spurs using Mace as an excuse, it's not an excuse; it's a fact! Imagine if Manchester City were due to play a Champions League semi final against, say, Shakhtar Donetsk and the day before the game, the UK's air traffic control systems went down, grounding all flights to and from the UK. City wouldn't have time to get to Donetsk by other means so would be unable to fulfil the fixture. Would you say that it was fair and reasonable for the result to be declared a 3-0 win for Shakhtar?
UEFA would. When the Icelandic volcano went off, they told Barca to get a bus to Milan to play Inter or forfeit the game. In that scenario, they'd tell City to get the eurostar or ferry and fly from France, or forfeit the game.
So not really the best analogy.
 
Jim
Para 1: thanks for proving my point

Para 2: The other factors you mention are consistent across the whole competition

Para 3: Spurs are responsible to the PL and the competition NOT Mace

Using an example of a last minute problem, "force majere" is ridculous to compare it to a Project Plan that was put in place before a brick was moved from OWHL. But to amuse you if City took all normal measures to fulfilled the requirements of the compettion, that is arriving in the host City 24 hours prior to KO, and due to circumstances totally beyond their control ie a unscheduled outage of control systmes, and it was impossible to get there by other means then City would not be punished. Its akin to suggesting that City should have been punished a few seasons agon for the Police cancelling a ECL at the last minute due to a storm making it dangerous to travel

Lets face it Jim in your eyes Spurs are literally whiter than white and are not to blame, its all someone eles's fault

I know a club and fans not too far from here that resemble the thoughts of your last sentence
 

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