Spurs’ new stadium

[aguero93:20]

The PL isn't an independent organisation. It IS the clubs. There might be a few clubs that are pissed off ( I can guess who!) but a sufficient number aren't.

Yes, but you still haven't had 14 clubs vote in favour and the longer this goes the more you piss off.

 

[aguero93:20]

How come? State of the Wembley pitch, postponement or something else?

Both and the date they were told. Apparently they're convinced spurs knew back in February the match wouldn't be at WHL and the club feel they were lied to.

 

[Bobby Taylor's Pub Team]

Both and the date they were told. Apparently they're convinced spurs knew back in February the match wouldn't be at WHL and the club feel they were lied to.

The fixture list wasn’t out back in Feb, but I take you to mean they knew back in Feb it’d be another year so should have made plans before the fixture list came out and the season started?

 

[aguero93:20]

The fixture list wasn’t out back in Feb, but I take you to mean they knew back in Feb it’d be another year so should have made plans before the fixture list came out and the season started?

Pretty much.

 

[JimB]

Yes, but you still haven't had 14 clubs vote in favour and the longer this goes the more you piss off.

I doubt that Spurs care about pissing off other clubs any more than any other club cares about pissing off other clubs. At the risk of repeating myself in answer to your initial query, though, the point remains that Spurs will not and cannot be docked points until they do something that is in serious breach of the rules and that doesn't have special dispensation.

 

[JimB]

Both and the date they were told. Apparently they're convinced spurs knew back in February the match wouldn't be at WHL and the club feel they were lied to.

They can be convinced as much as they like. Doesn't mean it's the truth.

 

[aguero93:20]

I doubt that Spurs care about pissing off other clubs any more than any other club cares about pissing off other clubs. At the risk of repeating myself in answer to your initial query, though, the point remains that Spurs will not and cannot be docked points until they do something that is in serious breach of the rules and that doesn't have special dispensation.

As I understand the rules if Spurs play all their home games at Wembley they'd be safe. If they don't, they're liable to any club willing to challenge.

 

[JimB]

As I understand the rules if Spurs play all their home games at Wembley they'd be safe. If they don't, they're liable to any club willing to challenge.

Challenge what, though? Spurs have special dispensation to play games at Wembley until the new stadium is ready. That dispensation cannot now be withdrawn and 'punishment' (in the form of points deduction or otherwise) be meted out retrospectively. The most that can happen is that PL clubs could decide that, beyond a certain date, Spurs must play all games at Wembley for the remainder of the season. That hasn't yet happened.

 

[East Level 2]

CFC fans can laugh all they want at Spurs' current stadium predicament.
However I suspect when its open they will look with envious eyes from across London when comparing their 70's crumbling edifice and hotel (artistic licence) with what Spurs can offer.
It does look a fantastic venue and I agree that Levy has carefully considered the current outlay and ensured the stadium is a "premium" venue at a not inconsiderable cost for a reason or two.
As has been said once its open nobody will give a flying fuck about the delays particularly Spurs fans.

I think only one of the four stands is from the 70s. Or did you claim artistic licence as you didn't know when they were built.
As for the new WHL, yes it will be a fantastic venue, but I think Spurs fans will be a bit pissed off when the mounting costs prevent them strengthening. And also when leaving the ground as the roads and public transport struggled with 35,000 in and there's been sod all work carried out to cope with an extra 25,000.

 

[JimB]

I think only one of the four stands is from the 70s. Or did you claim artistic licence as you didn't know when they were built.
As for the new WHL, yes it will be a fantastic venue, but I think Spurs fans will be a bit pissed off when the mounting costs prevent them strengthening. And also when leaving the ground as the roads and public transport struggled with 35,000 in and there's been sod all work carried out to cope with an extra 25,000.

Once in the new stadium, Spurs will have more money to spend on player purchases and wages than they do now. Remember that they have a net spend on transfer fees of nigh on zero over the past 7-8 years. So there will be no change for the worse in that respect.

Agreed that getting to and from the stadium won't be easy with an extra 26K fans. But the idea is that the added attractions of the new stadium and eventual wider development will encourage fans to stay longer after games. I can't see that working for night games or if Spurs have lost but it should help to ease some of the congestion after weekend games. Added to which, there have been track improvements at Northumberland Park - which will mean double the number of trains from that station - and there are ongoing station and train improvements at White Hart Lane, which will mean the capacity to move a greater number of people in any given period. Further ahead (2030 and on), it is expected that Northumberland Park will be one of the stations on Crossrail 2.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Once in the new stadium, Spurs will have more money to spend on player purchases and wages than they do now. Remember that they have a net spend on transfer fees of nigh on zero over the past 7-8 years. So there will be no change for the worse in that respect.

Agreed that getting to and from the stadium won't be easy with an extra 26K fans. But the idea is that the added attractions of the new stadium and eventual wider development will encourage fans to stay longer after games. I can't see that working for night games or if Spurs have lost but it should help to ease some of the congestion after weekend games. Added to which, there have been track improvements at Northumberland Park - which will mean double the number of trains from that station - and there are ongoing station and train improvements at White Hart Lane, which will mean the capacity to move a greater number of people in any given period. Further ahead (2030 and on), it is expected that Northumberland Park will be one of the stations on Crossrail 2.

One thing we can all probably agree on is that Jim is as game as they come. Any hint of criticism of Spurs and the way they have handled the new stadium build or the spiralling costs and he is like a rat up a drainpipe in coming back with multiple reasons why it's not their fault, guv. I'd be surprised if the club's expensive PR team does as good a job.

Maximum respect...

 

[aguero93:20]

Challenge what, though? Spurs have special dispensation to play games at Wembley until the new stadium is ready. That dispensation cannot now be withdrawn and 'punishment' (in the form of points deduction or otherwise) be meted out retrospectively. The most that can happen is that PL clubs could decide that, beyond a certain date, Spurs must play all games at Wembley for the remainder of the season. That hasn't yet happened.

The certain date was the first home game played at Wembley.

 

[cleavers]

As has been said once its open nobody will give a flying fuck about the delays particularly Spurs fans.

Until they leave the place, 38,000 leaving was a nightmare, 60,000 (?) isn't going to make it any easier.

No matter how great the stadium is, the transport is shocking, far worse than what we have to endure at the Etihad.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

You can second guess their feelings if you want.
Our transport is poor but I don't fucking give a shit if I get to watch a winning team playing the football we do!
I suspect their fans will be similar.
Getting away from the ground within 5 mins has never dampened my match day experienced.

 

[JimB]

The certain date was the first home game played at Wembley.

Initially, yes. But they have since been given dispensation to play further games at Wembley. If there comes a point that they are told that they must either stay at Wembley for the remainder of the season or move to the new stadium with immediate effect, and if they then refuse to or are unable to comply with that order, only then will they be in breach of any rule and special dispensation.

 

[JimB]

One thing we can all probably agree on is that Jim is as game as they come. Any hint of criticism of Spurs and the way they have handled the new stadium build or the spiralling costs and he is like a rat up a drainpipe in coming back with multiple reasons why it's not their fault, guv. I'd be surprised if the club's expensive PR team does as good a job.

Maximum respect...

Ha! Maximum scorn, I think!

I do appreciate that I am on another club's forum - which is why you won't find me slagging off City or bigging up Spurs. But I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to put the alternative case to one that has been argued especially if, with respect, I am understandably somewhat better informed about Spurs than the regulars on here are. I see it from City fans too, when they feel that their club is being inaccurately or unfairly reported. And that's equally understandable.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Ha! Maximum scorn, I think!

I do appreciate that I am on another club's forum - which is why you won't find me slagging off City or bigging up Spurs. But I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to put the alternative case to one that has been argued especially if, with respect, I am understandably somewhat better informed about Spurs than the regulars on here are. I see it from City fans too, when they feel that their club is being inaccurately or unfairly reported. And that's equally understandable.

It was only a gentle aside and not an actual dig, Jim :)

 

[blue by birth]

Ha! Maximum scorn, I think!

I do appreciate that I am on another club's forum - which is why you won't find me slagging off City or bigging up Spurs. But I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to put the alternative case to one that has been argued especially if, with respect, I am understandably somewhat better informed about Spurs than the regulars on here are. I see it from City fans too, when they feel that their club is being inaccurately or unfairly reported. And that's equally understandable.

Stick up for your club as much as you want mate...as long as you aren't slagging off City then I don't mind.
Hope you win all your home games for the rest of this season lol

 

[Gray]

I think, whatever the facts are about the stadium delays, we can all agree it looks to be superb and can only help Spurs ambitions in the future.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

Ha! Maximum scorn, I think!

I do appreciate that I am on another club's forum - which is why you won't find me slagging off City or bigging up Spurs. But I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to put the alternative case to one that has been argued especially if, with respect, I am understandably somewhat better informed about Spurs than the regulars on here are. I see it from City fans too, when they feel that their club is being inaccurately or unfairly reported. And that's equally understandable.

have you got a plan in place to defend tomorrows attendance bud ?
on the ticket planner the place is empty :-)