Spurs (A) - Post-Match Thread

We need some new characters. A bit of aggression, some anger, some passion. Too many shruggers or moany cnuts out there. Laporte, cancelo, bernado, Jesus, Rodri & kdb all just moan too themselves or the ref. Mahrez is a shrugger, he doesn't care, couldn't give 2 fcuks. Another shit pass by him led to their 2nd. How many goals have we conceded this season down to a lazy, over ambitious pass or shot leading to a counter attack by him. Does he say sorry, nope, does anyone bollock him, nope. Why does no one grip Eddie and say calm the fuck down. Dias and walker are genuinely the only ones who seem to be passionate. This is why Foden is needed, he cares. We've lost vinny, d.silva, hart, Delph, lescot, edin, tevez, yaya, zaba and others. Some don't have nowhere near the talent as current players but they had passion and drive. Could Doyle + passion be worse than gundo? What about delap + youthfull fearlessness, any worse than torres/sterling upfront and mahrez pondering around on the wing improving his YouTube compilations? Kdb is bollocksed play bernado/doyle and foden. Or at least bring subs on before 70 mins. Delap, palmer, doyle, braaf all look like they can help out, even add something different, use them ffs. We need 2 characters/big personalities bringing in. A zaba/tevez type, a true warrior leading by example, running through brick walls bandaged up. Also a vinny/delph type verbal leader. Dias maybe this player but we need more. Who do the players look too on the pitch too organise and gee up. Someone to tell mahrez to play it simple, tell rodri to play it forward faster, tell Phil to breathe and dictate play, organise the defensive line (drop if needed). We have talent, we have a great squad minus 1 mobile cdm and 1 1st team lb. Every other position we have 2 class players in each slot and a quality youth player backing them up. Let's face it, Phil would start in most prem teams. Doyle, tosin & delap would get plenty of 1st team minutes in bottom half clubs. Palmer, thb, f.nmecha and braaf would get time off the bench. They can do a job for us, some would add a different skill set than what we have. If not at least we get a bigger fee for them. Anyway, fcuk messi I want a lb, jay dasilva, Douglas Luiz, Marcos thuram and haaland. Mendy, gundogan, zinchenko, mahrez out and I'd happily swap bernado for aouar. Love bernado but he's not what we need. We need a player to dictate the pace of the game. Phil and Tommy aren't there yet!!!
 
We've got at least the second best squad in the league. Our tactical set up and attitude are making it much harder than it needs to be. Even all the scapegoats are a product of deliberate instruction:

Mahrez - over used as he's our second best chance creator statistically.
Gundogan - used to balance the midfield, not particularly defend or attack.
The high line - used to compress play, only really Walker is actually suited to it
Ederson - victim of the high line

The most effective play we ever had came from using Sane and Sterling on their natural wings, at speed. Since moving Sterling to the left, with inverted wingers every move funnels into packed boxes and we deny our forwards clear cut chances.

I wonder what sort of goal we actually expected to score today, in the face of entirely predictable tactics.
 
the_tevez_wiggle said:
We need some new characters. A bit of aggression, some anger, some passion. Too many shruggers or moany cnuts out there. Laporte, cancelo, bernado, Jesus, Rodri & kdb all just moan too themselves or the ref. Mahrez is a shrugger, he doesn't care, couldn't give 2 fcuks. Another shit pass by him led to their 2nd. How many goals have we conceded this season down to a lazy, over ambitious pass or shot leading to a counter attack by him. Does he say sorry, nope, does anyone bollock him, nope. Why does no one grip Eddie and say calm the fuck down. Dias and walker are genuinely the only ones who seem to be passionate. This is why Foden is needed, he cares. We've lost vinny, d.silva, hart, Delph, lescot, edin, tevez, yaya, zaba and others. Some don't have nowhere near the talent as current players but they had passion and drive. Could Doyle + passion be worse than gundo? What about delap + youthfull fearlessness, any worse than torres/sterling upfront and mahrez pondering around on the wing improving his YouTube compilations? Kdb is bollocksed play bernado/doyle and foden. Or at least bring subs on before 70 mins. Delap, palmer, doyle, braaf all look like they can help out, even add something different, use them ffs. We need 2 characters/big personalities bringing in. A zaba/tevez type, a true warrior leading by example, running through brick walls bandaged up. Also a vinny/delph type verbal leader. Dias maybe this player but we need more. Who do the players look too on the pitch too organise and gee up. Someone to tell mahrez to play it simple, tell rodri to play it forward faster, tell Phil to breathe and dictate play, organise the defensive line (drop if needed). We have talent, we have a great squad minus 1 mobile cdm and 1 1st team lb. Every other position we have 2 class players in each slot and a quality youth player backing them up. Let's face it, Phil would start in most prem teams. Doyle, tosin & delap would get plenty of 1st team minutes in bottom half clubs. Palmer, thb, f.nmecha and braaf would get time off the bench. They can do a job for us, some would add a different skill set than what we have. If not at least we get a bigger fee for them. Anyway, fcuk messi I want a lb, jay dasilva, Douglas Luiz, Marcos thuram and haaland. Mendy, gundogan, zinchenko, mahrez out and I'd happily swap bernado for aouar. Love bernado but he's not what we need. We need a player to dictate the pace of the game. Phil and Tommy aren't there yet!!!
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I agree. Too much shrugging. Revenge is best served cold like Carlos Tevez did.
 
HarrytheBlue said:
I've been critical at times - we all have over the years. We've just had a few years of the greatest football in Prem history - against a background of 16 billionaire/multibillionaire Prem owners. We ain't going to have it all our own way indefinitely. The team in its various incarnations in the last 10 years, has given us more than we dreamed of. Now we ain't winning as often - we're gassed out out having had no break. Hardly a cause to turn on the team and Pep. If that's what floats anyone's boat, so be it. The team that deserves to be slagged off by its fans is the one that spends unreal amounts year in, year out, plays miserable football and wins f*ck all - and plays in red. Slagging our team off in these circumstances makes us all look like a bunch of spoilt twats.
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So how long do you think is reasonable to dine on previous glories before asking serious questions? Two years? Five? Ten?

And what entitles (your word) you to dismiss others as hooligans and spoilt twats?
 
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