Spurs Game (Spoilers)

[NoApologiesForBeingSpurs]

Hi All, I hope you don't mind another one of us turning up: as you can guess I'm Spurs through and through. I have a lurk on the boards of most teams as I find other views and information I'm not here for who can pi55 the highest competition.. If you genuinely don't want me here then let me know and I'll go back to lurking occasionally.

First up can I just say that I can't think of many clubs that deserve your impending success. you have true fans that followed you through some very shit years. Maybe it's karma but I can't really believe that: if karma existed then Manure and the Gooners would have both gome bankrupt and be playing in a pub team by now.

Genuine question coming up. Apart from being London based and the exception that all fans take at the perceived arrogance of a good number of our fans (I think that it is more mentally hearkening back to long past glory days and wishing that the potential we have always had would one day amount to something, you'll probably disagree) I always get the feeling that there is a footballing reason for your dislike of us. I've seen a few references to us benefiting from the bias of refs but we certainly don't feel that refs are particularly kind to us in general. Is there something in particular or is it just a coincidence that the games we have been lucky in have happened to come against yourselves? If so then it might explain why it stands out for you but not me although I expect that I'm missing something obvious so please enlighten me.

A well intentioned word of advice that you can feel free to ignore, you would be better off waiting for the trophies that are likely to be coming your way before telling the world of the glorious successes to come. Any team can lose a cup final and getting the blend of the team right to win championships can't be absolutely guaranteed even with your new found wealth. If you don't win anything for a while then you will look like a right bunch of pillocks. At the moment the arrogance of a lot of your mob is on a par with that of the Manure fans (who mostly seem to live near me). I would advise a bit of caution until the silverware is in the cabinet. you never know that way there might one day be a team from Manchester that are seen to be winning graciously.

Anyway, it's your board so if you want to respond to my post, discuss football in a naturally biased way, or just want me to f off is up to you.

 

[Bill]

sounds to me that a certain club in the shadow of the great arsenal side are shitting it.

 

[Anonymous]

Hi All, I hope you don't mind another one of us turning up: as you can guess I'm Spurs through and through. I have a lurk on the boards of most teams as I find other views and information I'm not here for who can pi55 the highest competition.. If you genuinely don't want me here then let me know and I'll go back to lurking occasionally.

First up can I just say that I can't think of many clubs that deserve your impending success. you have true fans that followed you through some very shit years. Maybe it's karma but I can't really believe that: if karma existed then Manure and the Gooners would have both gome bankrupt and be playing in a pub team by now.

Genuine question coming up. Apart from being London based and the exception that all fans take at the perceived arrogance of a good number of our fans (I think that it is more mentally hearkening back to long past glory days and wishing that the potential we have always had would one day amount to something, you'll probably disagree) I always get the feeling that there is a footballing reason for your dislike of us. I've seen a few references to us benefiting from the bias of refs but we certainly don't feel that refs are particularly kind to us in general. Is there something in particular or is it just a coincidence that the games we have been lucky in have happened to come against yourselves? If so then it might explain why it stands out for you but not me although I expect that I'm missing something obvious so please enlighten me.

A well intentioned word of advice that you can feel free to ignore, you would be better off waiting for the trophies that are likely to be coming your way before telling the world of the glorious successes to come. Any team can lose a cup final and getting the blend of the team right to win championships can't be absolutely guaranteed even with your new found wealth. If you don't win anything for a while then you will look like a right bunch of pillocks. At the moment the arrogance of a lot of your mob is on a par with that of the Manure fans (who mostly seem to live near me). I would advise a bit of caution until the silverware is in the cabinet. you never know that way there might one day be a team from Manchester that are seen to be winning graciously.

Anyway, it's your board so if you want to respond to my post, discuss football in a naturally biased way, or just want me to f off is up to you.

Some fair-minded points there,NAFBS.

Look-I'm going to admit that after the rags,I've always disliked Spurs the "next most."...;-)
I'm also going to admit it's got a lot to do with that flukey win in '81.The best goal scored that day was Steve McKenzie's volley,and yet all we ever see is Villa-over,and over,and over,again.
My first tangible experience of the Southern media bias,and their love affair with all things Spurs and West Ham.
But I also think it's a lot to do with a real North-South devide in terms of "attitude."
Your fans (or at least the majority of the one's I've met)have an irritating "superiority" complex that I find "inherently London."

They often seem to come across to me as patronising and belittling....quite often,for no apparent reason other than an apparent delusion of your place in the footballing world that seems to pass only you totally by.

A sizeable number of away fans used to use a certain hotel in the South of Manchester that I used to frequent.The impression the Spurs fans always gave me when they visited was somewhere along the lines of-

London is the best,Manchester is wank but with cheap beer(fackin ell-it's only 2-50 a pint!!!),Spurs are in London,everyone North of Watford is a whippet-walking dickhead with no money,a crap car and shit clothes.Fact.City epitomise that.We're better than them and they've aint got no history either.

They were without doubt,the cockiest,most loudmouthed bunch of away fans it's been my misfortune to meet.Sheer arrogance...and yet to me,I was baffled as to where it had actually come from,and the justification for it.Sure,you were doing better than us,but the way they came across was just beyond me..like you were really believed you were actually a footballing "problem" to the likes of Arsenal,Liverpool or the rags,despite being nowhere near them in terms of points,cups or reputation.Baffling.Utterly baffling.

So there you go.I can only speak for myself,but I suspect that I'm not alone inthose views.It seems we just have a "personality clash" as clubs- and possibly even ideology and values.

Sorry.

 

[NoApologiesForBeingSpurs]

Thanks for the reply Robbie (de niro - I have no idea if your post was in response to mine, it doesn't address any of the points that I made so I will assume not)

I was 5 in '81 so I don't actually remember the game. I can see why it would grate on the nerves regularly having to see Ricky's goal, but three decades of loathing seems a tad excessive. Having said that our institutionalised hatred of Arsenal dates back nearly a century now so what I can't really comment!

I couldn't remember the Steve McKenzie goal so I just YouTube'd it. It was a great strike, but the kind of goal that anyone is capable of scoring if they catch it right: look at the number of full backs that have only ever scored a couple and they are all 30 yard smashes into the top corner. Ricky's goal was the kind of finish that only a handful of players could have scored, much in the same way that there have been much better strikes in the world cup but Maradonna's run and finish in '86 is seen by many as the best ever world cup goal as there are only ever a handful of players capable of that kind of skill.

Some (perhaps a lot) of our fans come across as very arrogant but that is mostly a stubborn unwillingness to publicly accept that we haven't had a seat at the top table for far too long. We have underachieved for decades and have been a mid table team for most of the premiership years, we all know it but we don't have to like it and we certainly wont publicly acept that it is the way things have to be. You see a media bias in our favour, we see the media bigging us up every year to be 'the team that breaks into the big 4' purely so that they can laugh at our seemingly inevitable failure to achieve what they said we should achieve. Much the same as the way our media build up B list celebrities just so that they can be knocked off of the false pedestal as soon as something goes wrong.

We cringe every time Harry or one of the players says to the media that this will be our year, it's just giving them ammo for later use.

One point I would make about your hotel experience; it's always the loadmouths that stand out in any environment. If there are 50 people anywhere it will be the 5 utter dickheads that you remember. Every team has them, but perhaps our loudest are the loudest of them all. At least that means we win something I suppose.

Your beer is cheap though ;-)