Bluewonder
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Partly agree - he's a poor defender at this level but I think he's our best on the ball apart from Stones.
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Spurs (H) | PL | Post Match Thread
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I see what you did there!Stop living in the past.
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Can you imagine the ref blowing at Anfield or OT. No, neither can I.
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We usually defend from the front.
Teams are beating the press by playing quick accurate passes across the back line and into midfield.
losing more 50/50 duels.
Short in midfield control leaving us easy to play through.
New players are not consistent and maybe not as good as the players they replaced.
No Kev or Stones. Especially the latter in keeping the middle tight and a big help to Rodri.
You can’t ignore last seasons achievements and the impact it seems to be having.
Pep is also going easy on the players that achieved so much. We can’t start attacking them now after what they have given us. Hopefully the down turn won’t last too long.
Expectations need to be reevaluated.
Suck it up and onto Villa we go.
Teams are beating the press by playing quick accurate passes across the back line and into midfield.
losing more 50/50 duels.
Short in midfield control leaving us easy to play through.
New players are not consistent and maybe not as good as the players they replaced.
No Kev or Stones. Especially the latter in keeping the middle tight and a big help to Rodri.
You can’t ignore last seasons achievements and the impact it seems to be having.
Pep is also going easy on the players that achieved so much. We can’t start attacking them now after what they have given us. Hopefully the down turn won’t last too long.
Expectations need to be reevaluated.
Suck it up and onto Villa we go.
I just feel like Akanji is more solid, is better on the ball and is almost as quick anyway.Walker’s defending for that third goal was absolutely criminal.
walker has this season (just from memory) did the ludicrous backheel against Shef U (?), got skinned my Mitoma for a brighton goal, got taken to the cleaners by Sterling and got done today by their striker.
eyalluvitt
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My PTSD from our 2019 4-3 CL quarter final 2nd leg exit has flared up again
Grealish would have missed it anyway.
Not really sure where this hunger is going to come from. Pep has been all soft and dismissive since the Wolves game. The players seem to drop off in the second half. It is 6 years since the last time we failed to win 3 games in a row. We seem to struggle to see games out, and seem to struggle to win them late on when level.
Yet all that said, we have a hell of a lot of quality, and we were margins away from winning all 3 of those games!
Maybe Kev coming back will spark something. Maybe that refereeing decision leaves an annoyance that does something. We are certainly capable.
I am confident Pep and the team can turn this around. This recent run of form may have us disappointed but I believe it will end up making us hungry. Let’s all stop bashing individuals. It’s not any individuals fault. It’s a team game and Pep will hopefully find the winning formula again.
I’m so disappointed but let’s not turn on our own players. Let this be the start of the club pulling together. Let’s support the boys.
Not really sure where this hunger is going to come from. Pep has been all soft and dismissive since the Wolves game. The players seem to drop off in the second half. It is 6 years since the last time we failed to win 3 games in a row. We seem to struggle to see games out, and seem to struggle to win them late on when level.
Yet all that said, we have a hell of a lot of quality, and we were margins away from winning all 3 of those games!
Maybe Kev coming back will spark something. Maybe that refereeing decision leaves an annoyance that does something. We are certainly capable.
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Shite though that decision at the end was, there’s no way I’m blaming Hooper for 2 more points tossed away. The reality is that we’ve let both Spurs and Chelsea do us in stoppage time this season, the dippers with just 9 minutes left to play and Arsenal with 4 minutes left to play. 3 points from 4 fucking games against our immediate rivals tells its own story.
As soon as we get put under pressure by a decent team, we crumble. The prolonged absence of Stones has been a key factor, but even without him there’s no excuse for some of the piss weak one on one defending we’ve seen in recent weeks. 10 goals conceded in the last 4 games. We finished the game today with 4 x CB’s, 2 x FB’s and 2 x DM’s on the pitch and yet we continued to let them walk through us in the middle of the park to then create overloads for their wide players to cross the ball into our box. We lost in stoppage time against the same team in almost identical fashion 2 years ago, when Kane muscled across in front of an oblivious full back to score with a header, so it was pretty fucking galling to defend just as badly again today.
The dippers scored twice at the death again this afternoon, Arsenal did the same the week before. We might still look like champions at times, but if we don’t sort this shit out whereby we look like conceding every time the opposition launches a long ball counterattack, then we won’t be for much fucking longer. I’m hoping Stones will be fit for Villa, cos, alongside Son and Salah, Ollie Watkins is a prime exponent of the art, and the way Dias and Akanji are defending at the moment, we looked ill prepared to deal with that attacking MO
As soon as we get put under pressure by a decent team, we crumble. The prolonged absence of Stones has been a key factor, but even without him there’s no excuse for some of the piss weak one on one defending we’ve seen in recent weeks. 10 goals conceded in the last 4 games. We finished the game today with 4 x CB’s, 2 x FB’s and 2 x DM’s on the pitch and yet we continued to let them walk through us in the middle of the park to then create overloads for their wide players to cross the ball into our box. We lost in stoppage time against the same team in almost identical fashion 2 years ago, when Kane muscled across in front of an oblivious full back to score with a header, so it was pretty fucking galling to defend just as badly again today.
The dippers scored twice at the death again this afternoon, Arsenal did the same the week before. We might still look like champions at times, but if we don’t sort this shit out whereby we look like conceding every time the opposition launches a long ball counterattack, then we won’t be for much fucking longer. I’m hoping Stones will be fit for Villa, cos, alongside Son and Salah, Ollie Watkins is a prime exponent of the art, and the way Dias and Akanji are defending at the moment, we looked ill prepared to deal with that attacking MO
Just cannot get my head around himself and Grealish getting bookedWithout Rodri too. Huge game. Could be 6 points behind by time we play em too!
I'm sure Grealish knows that Doku came off with some sort of injury and he would be needed for the Villa match.
Gets booked for kicking the ball away.
If they both got booked against Villa, I could understand it a bit more, knowing that Luton are up after that.
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Lol that’s a lie. NuneS has had one injury in his career. 2 including the one he picked up a few weeks ago.We spunked 90+ million on Nunez and Kovacic who both have poor injury records and with the best will in the world are not up to our standards.
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Alvarez is a 10 - 15 min sub at the end to run like a dog. Really effective one.....he's like McAlister.....both hard workers , both world cup winners in a squad that required water carriers for Messi...which is what wc winning teams have loads of grafters. We have one of them. Can't start with him.Be interesting to see what the fucking hell team we out out on Wednesday. Might be a blessing in disguise - bringing another midfielder in instead of the front 4 that's just not working
You aren't allowed to criticise shite defending in several games because we won the treble last season. Or something.
That's what Pep's been saying since October.
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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My PTSD from our 2019 4-3 CL quarter final 2nd leg exit has flared up again
Oh no. Today was not close — not even close — to that. For all kinds of reasons.
In all honesty I don’t think he scores. He’s still 40 yards from goal and he’s got 3 fast defenders breathing down his neckLook nobody Knows if Jack goes on to score, but the referee Knows he fucked up big time, The win was thrown away before the ref's dodgy advantage and stopping the
Would have been nice to have had the chance to though had it not been for a fat unfit incompetent ****
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Only ourselves to blame today,the misses were unacceptable, spurs should of been dead and buried by half time hopefully we can start the season in the New Year
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Feels like a loss! The only thing is that I felt like this last year! . The early goal conceded against Spurs always catches us out but that equaliser in 90 mins was avoidable against this second string Spurs side!
You're right.
We could do with Mitrovic at the moment
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Yeah, we should've put that away in the first 20 minutes.People gonna blame the defence but fuck me how many chances did we squander. It happens but it won’t keep happening, once again we play a top 6 team and are much the better side. Over the course of a season that will stand us in good stead.
Champions again come May
Missed chances have cost us all season.
We are defensively light in midfield and teams have been running though us all season, but Ederson should've done better on all the goals today.
We need to buy a left back though and Gvadiol or Ake aren't the answer there and need to play centre half.
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Not good enough again.
The shitshow from the ref at the end will naturally deflect most of the criticism and understandably so but fact is we failed to outscore a side that had an entire first 11 out injured and didn't have a single cb on the pitch or on the bench. that's piss poor.
I couldn't imagine us going to spurs and getting a point if we had walker and Lewis as our centre backs and kovacic anchoring us without a major bottlejob performance from spurs but that's basically what they've just done to us.
9 goals conceded in 3 games is a major issue. The back 4 with rodri and bernardo in midfield should be a solid foundation, the personnel isn't a problem which means it's the way we are set up. Several weeks ago I didn't understand why we've got Bernardo pressing high as if he's in the false 9 position and why rodri is tracking players into fullback positions leaving us completely wide open in the centre. Since then pep has continued to set us up like that and I've watched us get completely exposed week after week and i still don't understand it one bit.
We also look devoid of ideas in attack. We just don't create enough opportunities. other than Doku, there's nobody in the side who is going to create something. Too many people happy to just keep the ball and pass responsibility on to the next man. I'm not singling anybody out for that, I believe It's a tactical problem again. The tempo was there today in winning the ball back first half but when we got it, we seemed to instantly switch back to first gear and move it at a snails pace even when the pass was begging to be played.
We've failed to win against any of the likely top 4 and key home games where we can potentially make up points are done. We might have chased down much bigger deficits before but we always had the advantage of home games against the teams around us to catch up, other than arsenal, we don't have any of them left.
The team supposedly talked about wsnting to start well this season and not having to chase down others, that's not happened at all. we can just be thankful nobody else has had an electric start like arsenal did last season or the dippers have had in the past to keep us well in the mix.
Now we go to villa who are a solitary point behind us with rodri suspended and I think grealish is too having seen doku go off injured. Huge losses and if we play like we have been doing, and at this point there's no reason to suggest we won't, I don't fancy us to even take a point. Pep needs a tactical change if we are to find a title winning level.
The shitshow from the ref at the end will naturally deflect most of the criticism and understandably so but fact is we failed to outscore a side that had an entire first 11 out injured and didn't have a single cb on the pitch or on the bench. that's piss poor.
I couldn't imagine us going to spurs and getting a point if we had walker and Lewis as our centre backs and kovacic anchoring us without a major bottlejob performance from spurs but that's basically what they've just done to us.
9 goals conceded in 3 games is a major issue. The back 4 with rodri and bernardo in midfield should be a solid foundation, the personnel isn't a problem which means it's the way we are set up. Several weeks ago I didn't understand why we've got Bernardo pressing high as if he's in the false 9 position and why rodri is tracking players into fullback positions leaving us completely wide open in the centre. Since then pep has continued to set us up like that and I've watched us get completely exposed week after week and i still don't understand it one bit.
We also look devoid of ideas in attack. We just don't create enough opportunities. other than Doku, there's nobody in the side who is going to create something. Too many people happy to just keep the ball and pass responsibility on to the next man. I'm not singling anybody out for that, I believe It's a tactical problem again. The tempo was there today in winning the ball back first half but when we got it, we seemed to instantly switch back to first gear and move it at a snails pace even when the pass was begging to be played.
We've failed to win against any of the likely top 4 and key home games where we can potentially make up points are done. We might have chased down much bigger deficits before but we always had the advantage of home games against the teams around us to catch up, other than arsenal, we don't have any of them left.
The team supposedly talked about wsnting to start well this season and not having to chase down others, that's not happened at all. we can just be thankful nobody else has had an electric start like arsenal did last season or the dippers have had in the past to keep us well in the mix.
Now we go to villa who are a solitary point behind us with rodri suspended and I think grealish is too having seen doku go off injured. Huge losses and if we play like we have been doing, and at this point there's no reason to suggest we won't, I don't fancy us to even take a point. Pep needs a tactical change if we are to find a title winning level.