Spurs (H) Post Match Thread

I don't know what to do with these corner- and freekick situations. Do City practise them at all on training? It's unacceptable for a team considered to be top five in the entire world and a team that should be playing quarter/semifinals of the Champions League each year to concede two goals on the only TWO situations Tottenham had all 90 minutes. The defense is giving me the déjà vu from when Pep arrived in 2016. We have to stop conceding bullshit goals on cornerkicks. We had, what 13 corners? And Spurs maybe 2? Unbelievable result. We completely outplayed them for most of the game – and it's fukcing 2-2?!
 
SWP's back said:
It’s the var rule that’s the problem.

The ref gives a penalty then var won’t overuse either. But the var assumes the ref saw it which he didn’t. He’s staring at the penalty spot and doesn’t see the contact at all. The issue is with the var interpretation. We’re still at the mercy of the ref which is the issue unless a defender kills someone in the box with a machete.
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now i agree with you here...

as i said before i thought it was stonewall penalty on Rodri - loads of precident in that so many penalties given for incidents of similar nature...

I can only guess (as can anyone else) if they saw the ref didnt see the foul (as he wasnt looking at the incident) then they would/should over rule him....however you are saying that Oilver didnt see it here....i didnt notice whether he saw it or not as ive only seen a few replays and was concentrating on the foul itself not where the ref was looking.....

For me if the ref wasnt looking at the incident it should have been reviewed (it may have been reviewed anyway - we dont know it wasnt and i thought fro t he refs actions and conversation he as saying that it had been reviewed but other people have inteprited this differently) - but no one knows.
 
Dhruv1 said:
I'm not clear on it either but just heard apparently the VAR can't overrule the on-field if the ref has seen it. So it's just whether the ref decides to say he's seen it...

Agree with you though. Shouldn't have to but we've reached greater heights than other teams before and I'm confident we can do it again.
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What? I've never heard that. It was supposed to correct clear and obvious errors made by the referee. If a clear and obvious error is made then by definition the referee has seen it. That's the language that's been used by all the media so that's obviously how they were briefed on it.

Sounds like the whole FFP situation again, move the goalposts tto deliberately screw us over at the behest of the cartel clubs.
 
Fucking shafted again.
I want rid of it.
Ruining any enjoyment I get from the game.
I suspected it would be used against us at crucial points in games whilst going for us when it means fuck all. Like a penalty retake when were winning by a mile.
How the fuck did they get anything out of that game.
I'm fucking fuming at that decision considering what was let go in the Super Cup.
 
karen7 said:
Don't forget he booked raz for putting his hands on someone but not the pen,how can he get it wrong in the same game,because he wanted to and not the letter of the law
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karen7 said:
Don't forget he booked raz for putting his hands on someone but not the pen,how can he get it wrong in the same game,because he wanted to and not the letter of the law
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Yep it's his subjective view ultimately. So objectivity goes out the window which VAR was supposed to secure and take the personal subjective decision making away from the referee . But it actually does the opposite . It gives the refs more power than ever before. If it isn't totalitarian I don't know what is
 
It’s really pissed me off but there’s no point in everyone looking for faults in VAR because we know it’s wrong and it will not change anything but piss us off more . From now on we must not let it get to VAR and just take our chances . Other than that I thought we were spot on and outclassed a quality spurs team
 
BooksReject said:
But you are arguing that it’s there for clear mistakes. This was a clear mistake, as can be seen from multiple angles like VAR... this is where it gets messy as someone in a darkened room has fucked us over once again, and believe me it will keep happening. Open your eyes blue
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we all belive the ref made a mistake but if that person in the darkened room doesnt then it aint ever going to change....

now we are down the the fact that whether we trust the people in the room and thatsa slightly different argument...it depends on whether you (or anyone) is on the side of the conspiracy theorists or on the side where people believe that is just rubbish.
 
I genuinely have no desire to go Bournemouth next week now. I was at West Ham last week where the Sterling offside ruined the celebrations for the next goals even when VAR benefited us. Today I didn’t celebrate until after a few seconds.
I know it sounds daft but there’s more to football than seeing correct decisions. If I just wanted to see correct decisions then I’d stay and watch it at home. VAR just leaves me numb. Pre var if you got a decision it was a joy and if it went against you you’d have a moan and wait for MOTD to see if it was right or not. Everytime there’s a goal I don’t want to just stand soullessly until a man 100s miles away decides the outcome.
 
Just for sake of debate. What would have happened if the ref decided in the interests of the real game to overrule var and give the goal? Who has jurisdiction?

I know it would be his last game, but you never know - one day they may have some common sense and backbone.
 
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