Spurs (H) Post Match Thread

So spurs thought we had scored the winner the ref and lineo thought we had scored the winner City thought we had scored the winner , us fans thought we had won it. A bloke in his shed decided everyone was wrong and ruled it our but screwed us over a pen in the first half. And we are to believe football is bent....
 
I didnt see whether the the ref was looking at the incident so ill have to defer to a much cleaver cock in you on that one.

I did watch the game...

I thought it was a stonewall penalty the first time of seeing it....I blame the ref for making the wrong call - not VAR

But you are arguing that it’s there for clear mistakes. This was a clear mistake, as can be seen from multiple angles like VAR... this is where it gets messy as someone in a darkened room has fucked us over once again, and believe me it will keep happening. Open your eyes blue
 
All the missed sitters came back to bite us in the arse yet again.
We SHOULD have been out of sight before half time.
No excuses for some of those missed chances. Gifting goals is criminal, but not as corrupt and criminal as the cünt sat with VAR.
He should have let the ref make the decision via TV regarding Rodri being wrestled to the ground.

If this doesn’t make us more clinical and put the ball away, nothing will.

VAR is just another way for PiGMOL to control the outcome of games.
We will be so clinical and determined now that our ire is stirred . There will be a quiet but steely will to win every game after this .
 
I've not read everything so this already be on here but, the first offence is clearly committed by the Spurs defender, Skipp as he has hold of Laporte's shirt-it's clear as can be. Now I may be wrong but i think that's known as a foul. If they want the nth degree on this stuff then it has to be across the board and not just what suits at the time.
 
If the ref does not give s penalty for the challenge on Rodri he has made a clear and obvious error. If he was
Looking the wrong way and didn’t see it he was making a clear and obvious error. If the bloke controlling the var thinks otherwise he is incompetent.
 
Looked like it was getting boisterous at the divide between the fans. I was at the far end of the ground (302),so it was hard to tell if it got nasty or not.

Was a bit lively walking back into town.
 
Maybe. But the biggest buzz is celebrating a goal at a game. I don't want to feel as though I can't celebrate until VAR has picked over the bones.
That's exactly what i'm saying. Scrap VAR. I'm fine with that. I got up and went mental watching the game, then had this sinking feeling immediately afterwards that something was up...that's not football. That's something else...and I like what we had when we were shit and i like what we have now were not.
 
Don't forget he booked raz for putting his hands on someone but not the pen,how can he get it wrong in the same game,because he wanted to and not the letter of the law
 
Answer this then please.

Why was the possible penalty incident not reviewed?

If you think it’s above board then that’s fine. I guess we will see in the coming months but I tell you now, Liverpool will not suffer a decision like that tonight.

VAR constantly watches the game. They only enter review if they think something has been missed. The ref didn't give a pen and the people on VAR deemed that they didn't see enough to warrant awarding a pen. Do I think the Rodri one was a pen, yes. We will undoubtedly face far more VAR decisions than other teams because we'll be attacking, scoring and playing in the opp box more than any other team. I think it was a pen but it's subjective, no matter how stonewall you or I think it was it's not going to be reviewed/given all the time like an offside or handball will because they're just factual decisions.
 
Same, I didn’t think it would matter as we were playing them off the park. Ultimately we didn’t put more than two of the many many chances we created away and that’s why we didn’t win.

I celebrated both the late goals in the two games vs Spurs so I feel robbed even though they were correct.

I think VAR will favour us in the long run.

I think the foul in the first half doesn’t get a pen in the last few seasons 100% of the time even if the ref sees it in real time. I was expecting VAR to give them, but anyway, it’s not why we drew, shit finishing. :(
My only immediate reaction to that is.....will VAR help us in the end?
I thought it would, but after the first 2 games, something’s not quite right.
As I’ve said before, I agree with it, but at the moment I think it’s against us 100%.
Not seen what Pep has said after the game, as I had to get away from everyone, but we’ll see. Praying I’m wrong
 
As someone said, Pep will use this game to motivate the players. Suffering is necessary to go further. Suffering injustice will help Pep build a siege mentality.
 
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How can you keep saying the ref was in the wrong but not the VAR team? It's pretty obvious Oliver got it wrong but if we give him the benefit of the doubt (which he doesn't deserve) h only saw it once in real time, the VAR team saw it from multiple angles and still decided it wasn't a penalty so they're even more wrong than Oliver! That was the perfect example of a 'clear and obvious' error so if VAR isn't being used to correct shit decisions like that then what is it for? It seems to me that at the moment it's being used to rule out goals for ridiculous technicalities and millimetres but not to stamp out actual cheating, holding in the box, diving, etc. The decision to rule the goal out was probably correct to the letter of the law but only because the law has been changed to suit VAR, all elements of common sense and the joy of goals being scored have been removed from the game but the cheating is still fine it seems. That's what the problem with VAR is at the moment, you can tie yourself in knots trying to justify it but it's a fundamentally flawed and broken system the way it's being used and it will kill games of football for the majority of the teams in the competition.

Spot on blue
 
If we play the next 36 league games like we did today we will piss the league with 100+ points and VAR won't stop us.

No matter how good you are, sometimes luck, bad officiating and once in a season errors combine to cost you 2 points every once in a while.

The important thing is we absolutely battered the 3rd best team in the league and made them look like a Championship side that got accidentally promoted at times. 99 times out of 100 the goals will go in, the 3 points will be in the bag. Today was the exception and we just have to suck it up and move on.
Once in a while? You mean 2 out of 3 of the last home games against these muppets.
 

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