Spurs (H) Post Match Thread

Absolutely shit finishing by us today. 2-1 up we must have had five good chances to make it 3-1 and our rabble were scuffing shots and tripping over each other like bafoons as soon as we got in the box.

Rodri looked lost in the second half. Wasn’t even moving into space to be passed to. He’s looked tired in the second d half of all three games so far n’all.
He’s no Fernandinho!

Kev looked fucked by the last twenty.

Kun looked like he’d ran a marathon before the game. Not sharp, not on his toes.

Some of these lads need to get their arses in gear off the pitch and get themselves fit.

Sterling and Zinchenko were poor second half n’all.

Even with all that we completely dominated them. Spurs were a joke. They had three shots all game, two were goals and one was from the half way line that nearly ended up on the Spurs bench.

But VAR has ruined the sport! Didn’t really celebrate goals one or two much and I stood completely still for the ‘winner’. Knew it was going to be ruled out, knew it!
 
Is Foden fast? Genuine question, as
I hadn’t really associated him with sprint speed so far if I’m honest.
Agree with your general point though.

I didn’t really mean pace, just the energy
we needed in midfield. They were walking through us at times. Gundo not captured last seasons form and will take Rodri time to adapt. The lack of blistering pace will be an issue and still think we needed a tall centre back. Two games in didn’t see the need to rotate Gabby. Long drive back to South Wales now and so mad. I can take getting beat any day of the week even against Palace those things happen. But the penalty decision today was just plain cheating. I know people react in the heat of the incident including myself, but never heard as many people saying today that Var and the way it is being used is too much. A bad referee decision and he is on the pitch to face the wrath. The referee can also be demoted for bad mistakes, These officials in the VAR studio are the anonymous representatives that do not have any accountability to anyone and therein lies the issue. Totally unaccountable. Never felt as mad as this even after a defeat.
 
Jamie said it will even itself out over a season.

Well, it won't when the people doing the VAR reviews don't want you to win.

That confirms what a gutless bent lick spittle Redtwat is with that comment. VAR was supposed to negate the "evens it out of a season" bollocks you nob jockey!
 
Thought we played really well. Absolutely hammered a very strong team. Pretty ludicrous watching that match and looking at the stats to think we didn't win that.

28 shots from our guys didn't go in, they scored with 100% of theirs, we should have had a penalty via VAR, and VAR needed to disallow a goal in the last minute. If that's what it takes to take a point off us then we'll be hard to beat again this season.
 
Thought we were absolutely excellent..... apart from Tyrian Lannister scoring a header in our 6 yard box and their first goal looked very ropey as well from the SS. That aside, we were excellent and should have won very comfortably.
 
It has ruined it for me,
Plus with the programme shrinking and not being able to read it without a magnifying glass.
 
if that was against united I would be fucking loving it ,finish our chances and last minute goals wouldn't be necessary, we were brilliant today bar two sloppy bits of defending,WTF was eddie playing at for their first , tomorrows another day ,you'll be up for it next sunday
I don't know if I will mate.
I realise it's easy to say I don't like VAR when it's gone against us but I can see now that it had sucked the ecstacy out of scoring any goal.
If I'd just seen that happen to united, I wouldn't be loving it at all! I'd be worried. I hate united but I love football and this is a potential passion destroyer.
I don't want to cheer the relief minutes later, when the VAR eventually says it isn't a goal, I want to cheer the ball hitting the back of the net.
 
Wasteful should have had the game won 25 minutes in. That said var or rather the officials making the decisions were shocking only person on the pitch who was worse was Oliver totally corrupt.
 
That confirms what a gutless bent lick spittle Redtwat is with that comment. VAR was supposed to negate the "evens it out of a season" bollocks you nob jockey!

Sky had a presenter/pundit team on the City Spurs game today with links to : liverpool, spurs/liverpool, and man united. Seems fair enough really ...
 
I don't know if I will mate.
I realise it's easy to say I don't like VAR when it's gone against us but I can see now that it had sucked the ecstacy out of scoring any goal.
If I'd just seen that happen to united, I wouldn't be loving it at all! I'd be worried. I hate united but I love football and this is a potential passion destroyer.
I don't want to cheer the relief minutes later, when the VAR eventually says it isn't a goal, I want to cheer the ball hitting the back of the net.

Exactly this. VAR is an entertainment killer.
 
I think the use of VAR will now see a rise in crowd trouble, it’s one thing thinking the ref has done you, but it goes up a few notches when you see it replayed on the screen in front of you. The end is nigh

I think this will prove to be a major problem in the league going forward, especially for all goal-scoring and offensive teams. We can't continue like this. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand the results of this current VAR-system, that the majority of the crowd will actually stay quiet for a minute or two until the referee gives a thumbs up.
Is it really football anymore? Seriously, it's not even the same sport anymore. I know VAR will improve and become faster but I still can't see these problems going away.
 
Same, I didn’t think it would matter as we were playing them off the park. Ultimately we didn’t put more than two of the many many chances we created away and that’s why we didn’t win.

I celebrated both the late goals in the two games vs Spurs so I feel robbed even though they were correct.

I think VAR will favour us in the long run.

I think the foul in the first half doesn’t get a pen in the last few seasons 100% of the time even if the ref sees it in real time. I was expecting VAR to give them, but anyway, it’s not why we drew, shit finishing. :(

On the evidence to now it hasn’t

How can you claim the handball was the correct decision?
 
Fucking fuming.
Just got home and still haven’t seen or heard any proof it was even handball.
As for Rodders first half penalty claim, looked nailed on and have since heard it should’ve been a pen, described on the radio as a wwe move and a rugby tackle.
The ref doesn’t think it’s a pen, fair enough.
So this is where var should come in, to check to see if the referee has missed anything.
They don’t either bother to review it!!!
We’re getting fucked over once again and no one is accountable.
It fucking stinks!!!
 
I think the use of VAR will now see a rise in crowd trouble, it’s one thing thinking the ref has done you, but it goes up a few notches when you see it replayed on the screen in front of you. The end is nigh

Judging by today it certainly will never seen as much trouble for a long time.
 
I think even the Spurs players thought it was a goal. No complaints at all. That’s how you can normally judge.

I’m still raging at the wrestling of Rodri and no penalty.
Let’s see how many of these are given for the same offence.
We CANNOT afford to be so wasteful with our chances. We should have been out of sight by half time.
 
How can we change VAR? How do we affect the people responsible? How do we make them understand that the current system is unacceptable? Ten voices will not exactly be enough. A fucking movement is needed to get their attention because this is turning into a real problem for the sport, but that's not the worst part.

The worst part is that VAR has stopped City in three very narrow situations three times in the past month, almost like the system is there only for us. I genuinely believe that Michael Oliver wouldn't have the balls to disallow a similar goal for Liverpool if he was a referee at Anfield, or even Old Trafford, since the atmosphere is famous for being hostile. The worst part is that this system looks corrupt and its only reason for existing is to affect the game based on interest from powerful people.
The referee doesn’t have the power to make the decision to allow or “disallow a similar goal for Liverpool.” Every goal is reviewed by VAR (even Liverpool’s) and the decisions are made on facts alone - eg. you are either offside or you’re not or the ball either hit your arm or it didn’t. There is no referee discretion being used here. In the case in point today it’s not VAR that’s wrong, it’s the new Law which is ridiculous and unnecessary.

The discretionary VAR decisions (penalties, red cards etc.,) are those where VAR determines if the referee made a clear and obvious error. How they determined Oliver didn’t today for the penalty decisions, or at least one of them, boggles my mind. He should have been overruled.
 

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