Spurs vs City post match

Blue tinted glasses firmly in place, i am happy to accept, that given the way things panned out, we were well beaten, by the better side (on the day), and ultimately got what we deserved.

BUT...................things could and SHOULD have been different. am i alone in thinking the following ? or is it the glasses?

1) Silva should have scored very early on, from close in
2) Wanyama came straight through the back of Fernandinho, in the build up to their first goal, i thought it was a
clear and obvious foul, although commentators descibed it as a good challenge, and "surprisingly" didn't show it
again, certainly no analysis.
3) Less said about Kolarov's excellent finish , the better
4) Thought there was a clear penalty, for foul on Sergio when score was 1 - 0, again commentators said "Sergio got there first, and nicked the ball away, ...but not enough in it," hmmm!
5) Rose having already been booked, shortly afterwards pulls Sterling back, when he was about to cut into the box
typically cynical challenge, that to me was a definite second yellow.....
6) Wanyama, again, having already been booked could / should have had a second yellow
7) Sergio hit the post, had a free kick well saved by Lloris (who also made a couple of excellent saves), and had 2 or 3 poor shots, and on another day could quite possibly have had a hat trick.

OK, a slighty biased view, but if none of the critically important key, goal changing decisions / moments, go your way, then neither will the result!

interesting point of view of the match and pretty much correct, although thought the penalty incident was iffy and the ref made the right decision
but you can't deny spurs were better on the day, more aggressive in the second ball situations and wasn't until fernando went off that we started exerting pressure
the stats say it was close game(dont think it was) more possession, similar shots on and off target
it was a bad day at the office
 
Oh well, accepting the loss but the manner of the game gave me a feel of last year, which was frustrating. Time for pep to study the game and conclude that a few players give us weak spots under pressure. No need to name and shame but I'm hoping we see some players from yesterday not starting for some time.
 
I still think we're favourites for the league, but in terms of how much progress we've made and need to make, as Pep keeps saying there's a long way to go.
Indeed,it also highlighted our lack of depth and especially how important Nolito and KDB are to his tactics and the dynamic.

Taking a positive from the negative though,we are still top of this league and the problems of yesterday will be something Pep will now be frantically seeking to rectify.
 
Taking a positive from the negative though,we are still top of this league and the problems of yesterday will be something Pep will now be frantically seeking to rectify.

Yeah absolutely. There's just so much more to come from this team this season. My only worry, and it's a slight one, is that Pep has placed too much faith in one or two players and given them a little too much rope in terms of their squad position.
 
that high press tactic won't work that well next season when we sign full backs who are agile, quick and comfortable on the ball. To be fair, FB positions should have been fixed long time ago.

I agree mate.....knowing how Pep likes to play, fullbacks should have been the top of our shopping list and could hold us back alittle this season. We beat Swansea a few weeks ago but even in that game, you could see the problems starting and now Celtic and Spurs. Just glad we now have a manager that knows how to fix it!;)
 
Get fucking stuck in...
I can take losing, i understand players can have off days, i don't expect us to win every game, but what i do wanna see is some fucking bottle when the chips are down. Mix it, get your foot in properly and hit them hard.
We got twatted yesterday and it took far to long for the players to get up and fight.
 
Get fucking stuck in...
I can take losing, i understand players can have off days, i don't expect us to win every game, but what i do wanna see is some fucking bottle when the chips are down. Mix it, get your foot in properly and hit them hard.
We got twatted yesterday and it took far to long for the players to get up and fight.

One of the cornerstones of Pep's sides is aggression. Going back to his Barcelona team, they were small guys physically, but they were aggressive as fuck in their challenges. More than the lack of quality on the ball yesterday, I reckon the lack of aggression from back to front will have infuriated him.
 
Well thats the Second game our fullbacks have been found out.....Zabba too slow fof EPL games....Kolorov should be at another club.....shambles at the back......Stones and Bravo take some credit.....midfield and defence shambolic and Sergio the invisable man 2 games in a row. ???? Need some strong words or time to sell !!!
Swap for Phil 'the face' Jones perhaps?
 
Respect your opinion. It's always pleasing to hear someone with a reasoned view.

You may find me too stubborn, but I'm sure the result would be the same even with Carvajal and Alaba as fullbacks. The main problem now is the team's incoherence, not individual mistakes. The team is not educated properly, doesn't work as a unit, it's too early - Pep states it at every presser, does anybody listen to our coach? If the system doesn't function well, individual 'mistakes' start to occur, and people start to single out players and bash them. But modern football is a team sport, and the likes of Pep bring it to the level where the system can catalyze the effectiveness of its parts at unprecedented rate. In my very humble opinion, City need the new team now much more than new players.

It's laughable to hear that Pep is 'found out' and now any team can outplay us using the same 'pressing' approach. No, because Pep is actually a master of 'Pressing-resistance', he just needs 1) time 2) personnell to implement it. And supporters' patience, of course.

As for 'bad players' - most of them will be eventually replaced. But you can't just throw away all of them at once. Besides of purely financial aspect, such things can hurt squad morale badly, teambuilding is a subtle thing. Pep shows that every player has a chance, no matter how good/bad he was in the past. It's very important! Even if it costs us some results here and there. And tell me: don't you think that guys like Zaba deserve to be treated as legends in their final year with City? Even if they can't cope with fitter, younger opponents any more. Let them finish their job.

And one point about those who think that they know better than our coach. If i've learned anything during 8 years that I follow Pep, it's that he has more football brains that all football forums combined. You're in the safest hands, trust him, fasten your seatbelts, learn and enjoy! Do not question the Boss, support him! The moaning in today's match thread has reached absurd proportions.

Sorry for my far-from-perfect English, hope I'm understandable enough.



Great post Anderew.
 
The fundamental problem is that, apart from Stones, the defenders aren't really good enough to play consistently well in Pep's system. Neither is Fernando as the pivot. Pep has extracted some very good performances from them and will continue to do so. But no more than 7 times out of 10.
 
Indeed,it also highlighted our lack of depth and especially how important Nolito and KDB are to his tactics and the dynamic.

Taking a positive from the negative though,we are still top of this league and the problems of yesterday will be something Pep will now be frantically seeking to rectify.

We have plenty of depth in our squad, unfortunately we have a policy where we would prefer to pay our players to play for other clubs than be part of our squad and give the players a rest in weaker games so they are fresher for these bigger games. The guys were knackered yesterday. Spurs battered us in the first half with pressing and attacking and it was diffficultnto get our game together.
 
The flight mode kicked in yesterday when we saw an aggressive, motivated pressing team have the temerity to not make it easy for us. Bottle and the willingness to mix it are the next things Pep needs to instill.
 
I missed the game, I was working and haven't watched the game yet, will do today. I just don't understand the selection - A. Garcia has shown moments of absolute class and is 100% a pep type player, so why not give him a chance instead of Fernando? Clichy and Sagna were both on the bench, our first choice full backs, when everyone knows the problems with Zab and Kolorov (he should only be played centre half, can't believe I'm saying that!), and how many times do we have to keep giving navas a game. He's absolute wank and Sane was sitting on the bench, let's see what he can do!
 
Thought we looked jaded, lacklustre and sluggish, but then again, it had a feel of last season's team and last season's performance. with defenders running into each other, Sterling forever falling over, and Silva remaining a peripheral figure for large periods.

Also, with Delph and Kompany permanently injured, our regular squad is smaller than it should be. Once you, lose De Bruyne and Nolito, the options are limited.
 
Eugh.

It's started. One of the top stories for us on newsnow is a City fan blog titled 'Where was plan B?'.

The go to comment for thick football comments whenever a team lose a game.
 
One of the cornerstones of Pep's sides is aggression. Going back to his Barcelona team, they were small guys physically, but they were aggressive as fuck in their challenges. More than the lack of quality on the ball yesterday, I reckon the lack of aggression from back to front will have infuriated him.

I hope so Billy cos it annoyed the fuck out of me.
There was a perfect opportunity at one point to take the ball and Wanyama when he was on the touchline but the crunching challenge never came. I expected a bit more of the Fern's. Silva did hid damnedest ( i love the little scrapper in him) and PabZab spent the last 20 showing true bottle but far too many of the others simply dangled their feet around or didn't bother at all.
Surprising really as i thought we showed some real fight away at Stoke earlier this season.
 
Tell you what yesterday reminded me of..

Pre-Season.

Against arsenal (Game in Goteborg, Sweden), I was absolutely convinced this year would be a total transition year as we were pressed all over the pitch and out unsuitable players were not getting into pockets and constantly turning the ball over as we tried to play Peps way
I was actually saying to my mate that I felt a bit sorry for Pep, cause Arsenal were doing absolutely everything he wanted himself and they would be far more suited to him coming in and working immediately
I know it is a work in progress and this is our first year in such a style, but the shambles that was left behind by Pellegrini (underperforming players, dead wood on big wages, lack of work ethic due to shite training & no motivation) is taking its toll now and part of the struggle is now on guardiolas head

I dont think there is any reason to panic, nor is this a knee-jerk reaction, but we have played 5 of the bottom 6 and yes were excellent. But I am not looking forward to Anfield, Emirates or even Goodison this year, because those teams will press us and we arent ready for it yet and dont have the players.

Kolarov looked like his old self yesterday. He should only play at CB at home to teams who will park the bus, and shouldnt ever ever ever play at left back away to anyone in the top 6.
Zabaleta is probably the most upsetting to watch right now as hes totally out of his depth. I feel bad because watching him a few times this year it made me borderline dislike him in the heat of the moment when he is getting torn apart, which is wrong because hes been fantastic for the club and there is no way he should be still here im afraid.
Fernando just never done it for anyone. Not up to standard & never will be
Navas much the same. Im staggered these 4 are still at the club and involved in such big games like yesterdays was

Silva and Fernandinho were also bypassed on a pitch that was made to look like a 6-a-side one by spurs constant pressing and energy. We will NEVER be able to play like they did with the tools/players at our disposal right now, its just cold facts but I back Pep to get those in who are suited to his game

I genuinely think its one of spurs, arsenal or liverpool this year... with a little feeling Wenger will go out into the England job with a title in his last year to remember him by. I wouldnt be too against that either if we cant win it this year.
 
That series had to end at some point. There was never any way that we were going to go unbeaten, we've got serious weaknesses at the back, everybody knows that, even with Stones and Bravo now in, and I'm absolutely certain that those will be addressed over the three years of Pep's tenure (very probably by the end of this season, in fact). Let's just say it with good grace, even if it hurts: we were beaten by a team who were, by some considerable distance, the best we've played in terms of quality and motivation, over the eleven matches played so far.
No, what I find ominous is the other results of the w/e, in fact. Liverpool go one down, and finally come back to take the three points (deservedly so, by all accounts) away from home; Chelsea take the three points away from home; I open up the paper this morning to find that Arsenal nick the three points in the ninety-third minute (grrrr!), again, away from home. All of these are our direct rivals, along with spuds. Only good result of the w/e: United. They've got nothing to crow about. Arguably, their result was worse than ours, if you look at where we were both playing, and against who.
It's a source of relief to me that there's now the international break (even if a number of ours will be playing) and that our next two games are at home. Pep will rethink, re-organise us, and I believe we'll take the six points. If we don't, then I think we can say a deeper kind of problem is brewing.
 

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