To be fair, there is a reason that England are so shit, the players are usually not good enough. And the ones that are seen as good enough will be sold at extremely high prices (James Milner,Joleon lescott). If we are going for homegrown players what we want to do is raid Southampton for shaw,ward-prowse, chambers etc. or there is a Hughes at derby who is likely to grow into being a very good playerCity1974 said:thesilvalining said:Shawcross is far from good enough for us, another lescott. If we're not gonna go out and get a top cb we'd be better of playing rekik than getting him.
Rhodes would even be a downgrade on dzeko, and that's saying something. Probably premier league standard, but not anywhere near our standard.
And also would you really prefer to get rid of kolarov than clichy with the way they've been playing this season?
I would sell Kolarov if we could get Luke Shaw, and keep Clichy as backup for Shaw. Even though Clichy has had a poor season this season, Kolarov has had 2 poor seasons out of the last three.
Also on the likes of Shawcross and Rhodes, there seems now to be a permanent train of thought amongst supporters that non British players are never as good as overseas players. Surely within the country there must be some good local players somewhere. Even much of our EDS team are overseas players. It makes me wonder about the scouting system these days.
Also Dzeko cost £ 27 million and yet although he has had some good spells, we have seen he often struggles to control a football and overall probably misses 4 out of 5 chances created for him,
thesilvalining said:To be fair, there is a reason that England are so shit, the players are usually not good enough. And the ones that are seen as good enough will be sold at extremely high prices (James Milner,Joleon lescott). If we are going for homegrown players what we want to do is raid Southampton for shaw,ward-prowse, chambers etc. or there is a Hughes at derby who is likely to grow into being a very good playerCity1974 said:thesilvalining said:Shawcross is far from good enough for us, another lescott. If we're not gonna go out and get a top cb we'd be better of playing rekik than getting him.
Rhodes would even be a downgrade on dzeko, and that's saying something. Probably premier league standard, but not anywhere near our standard.
And also would you really prefer to get rid of kolarov than clichy with the way they've been playing this season?
I would sell Kolarov if we could get Luke Shaw, and keep Clichy as backup for Shaw. Even though Clichy has had a poor season this season, Kolarov has had 2 poor seasons out of the last three.
Also on the likes of Shawcross and Rhodes, there seems now to be a permanent train of thought amongst supporters that non British players are never as good as overseas players. Surely within the country there must be some good local players somewhere. Even much of our EDS team are overseas players. It makes me wonder about the scouting system these days.
Also Dzeko cost £ 27 million and yet although he has had some good spells, we have seen he often struggles to control a football and overall probably misses 4 out of 5 chances created for him,
Lomas has a lob on said:Hart - Keep.
Pantilimon - Sell and get British back up, to help with the home grown rule.
Wright - Keep, for the above reason.
Zabaleta - Keep.
Richards - Sell, get a decent price for him whilst we can. Given the club great service, but we've moved on and up a level.
Kolarov - Keep if Clichy goes, otherwise sell for a new option.
Clichy - Keep if Kolarov goes, otherwise sell for a new option.
Kompany - Keep.
Nastasic - Keep.
Lescott - Let go on a free.
Demichelis - Sell.
Navas - Keep.
Milner - Keep.
Silva - Keep.
Nasri - Keep.
Toure - Keep.
Fernandinho - Keep.
Garcia - Sell.
Rodwell - Sell.
Dzeko - Sell.
Negredo - Keep.
Jovetic - Keep.
Aguero - Keep.
Boyata, Sinclair, Barry need to be let go.
INs - New back up GK, new LB, 2 new CB's (1 of which has to be to be immense), 2 new CM's (Toure and Fernandinho have had no back up all season). New striker to replace Dzeko.
And we'll have to pay the postage too...nmc said:Lomas has a lob on said:Hart - Keep.
Pantilimon - Sell and get British back up, to help with the home grown rule.
Wright - Keep, for the above reason.
Zabaleta - Keep.
Richards - Sell, get a decent price for him whilst we can. Given the club great service, but we've moved on and up a level.
Kolarov - Keep if Clichy goes, otherwise sell for a new option.
Clichy - Keep if Kolarov goes, otherwise sell for a new option.
Kompany - Keep.
Nastasic - Keep.
Lescott - Let go on a free.
Demichelis - Sell.
Navas - Keep.
Milner - Keep.
Silva - Keep.
Nasri - Keep.
Toure - Keep.
Fernandinho - Keep.
Garcia - Sell.
Rodwell - Sell.
Dzeko - Sell.
Negredo - Keep.
Jovetic - Keep.
Aguero - Keep.
Boyata, Sinclair, Barry need to be let go.
INs - New back up GK, new LB, 2 new CB's (1 of which has to be to be immense), 2 new CM's (Toure and Fernandinho have had no back up all season). New striker to replace Dzeko.
Totally agree 100 per cent. Just question whether we can sell MDM - might need to put him on e bay as a freebie.