SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA - Now inc Peter Crouch!!

[dom]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

This is bang on for me, if anyone particularly one of our english lads gazbaz, milner or lescott does this no one is arsed if the name balotelli is mentioned he is guilty before anyone knows what the charge is. I know he has made some mistakes, but this is not intentional in my book he would have to have the fastest brain in history to plan all that in real time. His crime really is to be black, foreign and a character, doesnt suit the anodyne cash cow of english premiership football. Fuck em forza city, forza mancini, forza balotelli.

There is a key pont here

Look at the way that Scholes' stamp on the Bolton lad was , just 'good old schlosey'

Balo has been targeted by refs nad the reasons are listed above ...

In this case (and v Kiev ) he was in the wrong IMHO .. but so many other times his bookings reflect more on the sheep mindset of refs than anything else

I doubt that that king of refs, Perluigi 'would have been so quick on Balo's (like any other footballer's) normal transgressions, but may well have red carded him for the Shitty Porker incident

If English refs had not been such primary school idiots over Balo decisions up until now I'd be happier for us to take the rap

certain players get reputations through there own actions, there have been plenty of times this season when balo could of got cards but didnt usually for his reactions to decisions against him, i think the guy is an icon but i have accepted that he will get loads of yellow and red cards, its his nature and he brings on himself. will he improve as he gets older? i hope so but it will always be there

he is what he is no point getting upset by it, lets face it every time he plays we are thinking that anything can and will usually happen, mancini has to decide if his postives will outweigh the negatives, i hope he is here for a long time but he will let us down a shed load of times

OK some good points there but you didn't address my point about Scholes, who also has a 'reputation' ??? Also, could you give me any ACTUAL other examples of where Balo has 'got away with it' ???

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

Did he? Didn't he? NO-ONE EXCEPT MARIO will EVER know!

However, what is CRYSTAL CLEAR is that there is an absolute double standard, lack of consistency (both on the field and what the FA CHOOSES to look at after games, and who "directs" them to it!), and the people who appear to be "above the law" while others are in the crosshairs.

Regardless of ANY of that, Balotelli HAS TO CHANGE HIS WAYS. I am not saying he did or did not "do it," but what I AM saying is that his foibles are simply too expensive in a team game where the outcomes are so expensive and costly.

I would love nothing more than for City to appeal and for them to SHOW THROUGH VIDEO just how inconsistent the decisions are and how there can be absolutely no proof of intent in Balotelli's actions. I would love it, but from what I have seen of City in these situations, I just cannot see it happening.

One last thing......I am sick and tired of City (and the staff) allowing their players to be pilloried in public without ANY response. For instance, it would have been nice for Platt to say something more positive and protective, or for the club to issue a statement.

"I(We) have not seen replays of the event, but the referee was right there and saw the whole thing and did not even stop play for the incident, let alone give out a card, so it is hard for me(us) to believe there was anything that could be construed as a stamp after the fact.

We all know that the media loves to focus undue attention on Mario, and it is distressing to hear that 'Arry has come out as Judge, Jury and Executioner in his after-match comments. Clearly, he must have missed a few challenges early in the game, but then that is the way it is these days isn't it, with lynching by media and far too often of our players. Of course, it is also no coincidence that these things are always highlighted by our closest rivals for the title. Strange that, isn't it? NO card at all for Ledley King as he hacked down Mario as he is about to shoot, no red card for Skrtl's tackle on Yaya as he is about to score, no red card for the Wigan defender who deliberately handles the ball so that Sergio is not one on one with the keeper, not even a foul on Johnson for a straight legged two footed tackle that could have crippled Joleon, Lampard gets a yellow card for a clear over the top challenge. But I seem to remember SWP getting a red card a year or so ago for poking a leg out at a player who was kicking him while he was on the ground. Again, SWP is banned, misses three games and the player who kicked him while he was on the ground gets away with nothing.

Clearly, it is time for Manchester City to circle the wagons, not only as we approach games against other teams, but also against both against the media and the FA, as we are not about to let ourselves be anyone's whipping boy. Perhaps it is time for Manchester City to take another look at things and ensure we are taking care of ourselves and our staff and let everyone else get on with their own business while we attend to ours.'

Or something like that!!!

And pigs might fly!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

I know some have been derided on here for suggesting this, but the key to a successful appeal lies with the push by Modric.

Its timing is consistent with when Mario puts his right foot down and there is no real way of knowing with any meaningful accuracy how forceful it was or what impact that had on Mario's already disorientated frame of mind.

It's certainly worth a punt imo.

Possibly getting into semantics, but look at this picture. Mario isn't looking at him (important unless he's got superhero vision and can pinpoint Parkers head without looking) and he's off balance, left foot not secured as he's falling to his left. When you're falling over to the side, the inclination is to steady yourself by planting the rear foot behind the lead, rather than taking the time to throw the hind leg over the front to gain balance. He does this exactly and almost catches Parker. Maybe it was intentional, but the more I analyze it, the less deliberate it becomes for me.

I certainly think there are enough things that you mention there to throw sufficient doubt at the decision making process. There's a much greater number of variables than you would get in a "normal" stamping incident. On that basis he's got a fighting chance imo.

 

[cleavers]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

certain players get reputations through there own actions, there have been plenty of times this season when balo could of got cards but didnt usually for his reactions to decisions against him, i think the guy is an icon but i have accepted that he will get loads of yellow and red cards, its his nature and he brings on himself. will he improve as he gets older? i hope so but it will always be there

he is what he is no point getting upset by it, lets face it every time he plays we are thinking that anything can and will usually happen, mancini has to decide if his postives will outweigh the negatives, i hope he is here for a long time but he will let us down a shed load of times

Good post.

Mario will improve with age just like raggy wayne has, well errr his record has improved at least, he just gets away with it all now. Sadly though Mario won't be afforded the same privilege, because he's no the FA's only hope upfront in major tournaments.

 

[blink922]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

I know some have been derided on here for suggesting this, but the key to a successful appeal lies with the push by Modric.

Its timing is consistent with when Mario puts his right foot down and there is no real way of knowing with any meaningful accuracy how forceful it was or what impact that had on Mario's already disorientated frame of mind.

It's certainly worth a punt imo.

Possibly getting into semantics, but look at this picture. Mario isn't looking at him (important unless he's got superhero vision and can pinpoint Parkers head without looking) and he's off balance, left foot not secured as he's falling to his left. When you're falling over to the side, the inclination is to steady yourself by planting the rear foot behind the lead, rather than taking the time to throw the hind leg over the front to gain balance. He does this exactly and almost catches Parker. Maybe it was intentional, but the more I analyze it, the less deliberate it becomes for me.

I certainly think there are enough things that you mention there to throw sufficient doubt at the decision making process. There's a much greater number of variables than you would get in a "normal" stamping incident. On that basis he's got a fighting chance imo.

I agree, but dealing with the FA is a nightmare.

 

[MSP]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

that's before his "stamp". his foot is twice the height of parkers head there.

try harder.

I won't. If all you've seen from this incident is not enough to see there was contact, I can't help there.

parkers holding his head from the original contact, you're being silly. parker's lucky he got his head out of the way in time but mario didn't mean it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEVc56jbmMQ[/youtube]

No, you're silly if you want to use that video to prove there was no contact.

And I never explicitly said Mario did it purposely as I can't know that but if pushed to say then I don't think it's natural move and could easily be with purpose. Unfortunately, I'm not good with English enough to explain why it looks more like offensive than incidental to me so I'll leave it here.

But I stand by my words there was contact and there's no video you can bring that would change my opinion, I've seen it from quite enough angles and have no doubts about contact itself.

Anyway, I don't want to continue this rawkish thread, it happened, it's at least 50-50 situation and as much as I am pro-agenda guy, I won't be angry on anyone if Balotelli gets ban here. It definitely looks as something any neutral could see as offensive stuff.

 

[hilts]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

I know some have been derided on here for suggesting this, but the key to a successful appeal lies with the push by Modric.

Its timing is consistent with when Mario puts his right foot down and there is no real way of knowing with any meaningful accuracy how forceful it was or what impact that had on Mario's already disorientated frame of mind.

It's certainly worth a punt imo.

Possibly getting into semantics, but look at this picture. Mario isn't looking at him (important unless he's got superhero vision and can pinpoint Parkers head without looking) and he's off balance, left foot not secured as he's falling to his left. When you're falling over to the side, the inclination is to steady yourself by planting the rear foot behind the lead, rather than taking the time to throw the hind leg over the front to gain balance. He does this exactly and almost catches Parker. Maybe it was intentional, but the more I analyze it, the less deliberate it becomes for me.

i dont think he is aiming at his head and it doesnt matter if he is looking at him or makes contact, he has just kicked his leg back out in anger or for whatever reason why balo does this kind of thing, its petulant and silly and redknapp coming out and pretty saying he stamped on his head is nonsense, but he did kick out and wasnt doing it to regain his balance

 

[TCIB]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

"One last thing......I am sick and tired of City (and the staff) allowing their players to be pilloried in public without ANY response. For instance, it would have been nice for Platt to say something more positive and protective, or for the club to issue a statement."

This does piss me off, we seem to take it without doing much back.
As passionate fans though i can see how the suits will maybe be thinking in a more considered manor.

As an example i hope they are thinking this "ok let them talk rubbish, wait untill we win (hopefully) the prem then we will take all the shit talking tossers to task"

 

[DTeacher]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

i see you are still being a dumb ass, i was talking about the fans reaction not the offence, i repeat the fans reaction do you get it now or do i have to repeat again for you, i also said you shouldnt listen to city fans views as they are biased and guess what lee dixon is a city fan so well done you

i havent listened to dermot gallagher but he is somewhat in the minority

Lee Dixon does not always stick up for City, you know. He has criticised Balotelli previously as well. He also comes across more as an Arsenal fan, having played for them for so long. It's similar to people saying that Micah also supports Arsenal - wrong. Micah USED to support them but his heart is now at City. Anyway, I digress. Lee Dixon is an ex professional footballer (and he was a damn good one at that) and gave a good explanation as to why it could not be construed as a definite 'stamp'.

Dermot Gallagher is an ex referee (in case you missed it the first time) and is suitably qualified to comment IMO.

Your weak argument about listening to City fans is clearly not valid, as the hundreds of posts on threads about the incident display. SEVERAL City fans are NOT supporting Balotelli and some say the case is unclear, as we are not mind readers. (I'm in the second camp). Whereas the OVERWHELMING majority of Liverpool fans came out in support of Suarez, as did his Club and Manager. Now THAT'S blind loyalty for you. You simply cannot compare the two.

Yet you did.

And I'm the dumb ass?

Yeah, ok.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

I don't think there was contact but the intent is pretty clear tbh.
Again if that was done to our player we would want the fella who did it hung drawn and quartered.

Again I;ll post what I did earlier:

Place a football on the ground in space. now do a 360 spin, bang your leg into a piece of furniture, jump off the ground and get someone to push you in the back whilst still spinning another 360 degrees and try and bring your foot down on the ball with force. It is pretty much impossible to aim at something, let alone a moving head. Fucking hell I've seen some spurs fans come up with ridiculous arguments (Balo looked at the ref before deciding in mid air to lash out when he content the ref wasn't looking, all in the 0.1seconds this took place in) but I'd expect better from a blue.

Seriously have a try and then tell me how you could try and do it with intent aimed at somebodies head when you get nowhere near the football you are aiming for.

"It is pretty much impossible to aim at something, let alone a moving head."

Yeah thats why he missed him.

If human instict took over he would be swinging his right leg around infront of him.
Yet he finds time to stop that reflex action and put his foot down with force far removed from that needed to stabilize yourself or indeed gain control of a ball.
He did that in totally the opposite direction of where he was going.

He did not spin 360 degrees so your likening it to what you say is invalid for a starters. Also i have the match in hd now playing and i can see Modric has no influence on Balo's movement or balance.
If anything he is pushing him away from Parker anyhow.

I refere you to the laws of physics and imparticularly motion.

I'm not a doom and gloom fan, nor will you find me having kneejerks here attacking our players.
I do however have values that are not for comprimise and silly violent actions that affect the club i support are one of them.

alright mate,

sorry but i disagree, if he puts both feet forward i think he falls on his face. he'd end up doing a landing like a long jump into sand and because of all of his momentum going forwards. when i jump off something i spread my legs for balance, mario has about a second to do this so he spreads them forwards and backwards which was the best thing to do to stay up.

he only changes his "stamping" right legs direction when modric pushes him, it throws him off balance so he has to change his footing drastically.

if he did stamp parker on purpose, it's probably the greatest attempt at doing it in football history. take into accountant the pace at which it happened. it was so fast no-one noticed at the time. mario doesn't have time to lose his temper, it all happened to quickly to attempt a stamp, whilst losing his cool.

well thats my take on it anyway lol.