SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA - Now inc Peter Crouch!!

[TheMidnightBlue]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

I don't think there was contact but the intent is pretty clear tbh.
Again if that was done to our player we would want the fella who did it hung drawn and quartered.

Again I;ll post what I did earlier:

Place a football on the ground in space. now do a 360 spin, bang your leg into a piece of furniture, jump off the ground and get someone to push you in the back whilst still spinning another 360 degrees and try and bring your foot down on the ball with force. It is pretty much impossible to aim at something, let alone a moving head. Fucking hell I've seen some spurs fans come up with ridiculous arguments (Balo looked at the ref before deciding in mid air to lash out when he content the ref wasn't looking, all in the 0.1seconds this took place in) but I'd expect better from a blue.

Seriously have a try and then tell me how you could try and do it with intent aimed at somebodies head when you get nowhere near the football you are aiming for.

"It is pretty much impossible to aim at something, let alone a moving head."

Yeah thats why he missed him.

If human instict took over he would be swinging his right leg around infront of him.
Yet he finds time to stop that reflex action and put his foot down with force far removed from that needed to stabilize yourself or indeed gain control of a ball.
He did that in totally the opposite direction of where he was going.

He did not spin 360 degrees so your likening it to what you say is invalid for a starters. Also i have the match in hd now playing and i can see Modric has no influence on Balo's movement or balance.
If anything he is pushing him away from Parker anyhow.

I refere you to the laws of physics and imparticularly motion.

I'm not a doom and gloom fan, nor will you find me having kneejerks here attacking our players.
I do however have values that are not for comprimise and silly violent actions that affect the club i support are one of them.

For me the lack of contact is irrelevent, it's the intent that annoys me. It is nasty and i don't want to see our players acting like shrek.

Are you a fucking rag or what? There is no fucking intent, how I could explain that to some rags today to the point they were nodding their heads yet you just don't seem to get it is ridiculous.

He also didn't spin 360, you're right, he span 720. He shot, went a full 360, colldided with parker, carried on spinning out of control and then fell over in afull 720 degree motion.

His foot was put out to stabilise himself as he was disorientated and he was trying to stop himself falling. Take the same action he does and instead of putting your foot behind you put it ahead, I guarentee the fall will be alot worse. The fact is he did just perform a natural action and I highly doubt the FA will get this to stick when we appeal.

 

[blink922]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

I know some have been derided on here for suggesting this, but the key to a successful appeal lies with the push by Modric.

Its timing is consistent with when Mario puts his right foot down and there is no real way of knowing with any meaningful accuracy how forceful it was or what impact that had on Mario's already disorientated frame of mind.

It's certainly worth a punt imo.

Possibly getting into semantics, but look at this picture. Mario isn't looking at him (important unless he's got superhero vision and can pinpoint Parkers head without looking) and he's off balance, left foot not secured as he's falling to his left. When you're falling over to the side, the inclination is to steady yourself by planting the rear foot behind the lead, rather than taking the time to throw the hind leg over the front to gain balance. He does this exactly and almost catches Parker. Maybe it was intentional, but the more I analyze it, the less deliberate it becomes for me.

i dont think he is aiming at his head and it doesnt matter if he is looking at him or makes contact, he has just kicked his leg back out in anger or for whatever reason why balo does this kind of thing, its petulant and silly and redknapp coming out and pretty saying he stamped on his head is nonsense, but he did kick out and wasnt doing it to regain his balance

Fair enough, could see that as well although I don't agree. Our Mario is a difficult one, that's for sure. This one is too hard to call and the FA will do us no favors, so a ban is imminent regardless of any consensus we reach here (unlikely anyway!)

 

[Anonymous]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

I know some have been derided on here for suggesting this, but the key to a successful appeal lies with the push by Modric.

Its timing is consistent with when Mario puts his right foot down and there is no real way of knowing with any meaningful accuracy how forceful it was or what impact that had on Mario's already disorientated frame of mind.

It's certainly worth a punt imo.

Possibly getting into semantics, but look at this picture. Mario isn't looking at him (important unless he's got superhero vision and can pinpoint Parkers head without looking) and he's off balance, left foot not secured as he's falling to his left. When you're falling over to the side, the inclination is to steady yourself by planting the rear foot behind the lead, rather than taking the time to throw the hind leg over the front to gain balance. He does this exactly and almost catches Parker. Maybe it was intentional, but the more I analyze it, the less deliberate it becomes for me.

i dont think he is aiming at his head and it doesnt matter if he is looking at him or makes contact, he has just kicked his leg back out in anger or for whatever reason why balo does this kind of thing, its petulant and silly and redknapp coming out and pretty saying he stamped on his head is nonsense, but he did kick out and wasnt doing it to regain his balance

Just out of interest, looking at the jpg in the post above yours where Balotelli's right leg is coming down to the ground, if you look at his back you can see Modric's arm pushing him forward.

Given that momentum from the right leg in the motion of going downwards toward the ground and the move forward caused by Modric's shove, would it be unreasonable to suggest that push from Modric (not to blame Modric in anyway, shape or form) would naturally cause his left leg (also coming down) to search for the ground to his forward/left and the right leg to extend back as it was in motion downward anyway?

(hope that all makes sense!)

 

[Anonymous]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

Possibly getting into semantics, but look at this picture. Mario isn't looking at him (important unless he's got superhero vision and can pinpoint Parkers head without looking) and he's off balance, left foot not secured as he's falling to his left. When you're falling over to the side, the inclination is to steady yourself by planting the rear foot behind the lead, rather than taking the time to throw the hind leg over the front to gain balance. He does this exactly and almost catches Parker. Maybe it was intentional, but the more I analyze it, the less deliberate it becomes for me.

i dont think he is aiming at his head and it doesnt matter if he is looking at him or makes contact, he has just kicked his leg back out in anger or for whatever reason why balo does this kind of thing, its petulant and silly and redknapp coming out and pretty saying he stamped on his head is nonsense, but he did kick out and wasnt doing it to regain his balance

Just out of interest, looking at the jpg in the post above yours where Balotelli's right leg is coming down to the ground, if you look at his back you can see Modric's arm pushing him forward.

Given that momentum from the right leg in the motion of going downwards toward the ground and the move forward caused by Modric's shove, would it be unreasonable to suggest that push from Modric (not to blame Modric in anyway, shape or form) would naturally cause his left leg (also coming down) to search for the ground to his forward/left and the right leg to extend back as it was in motion downward anyway?

(hope that all makes sense!)

this! it's impossible for him to put his right leg forward from that point, that is the turning point for me, in mario trying to stay up. and what followed i think was a bit of a dive after feeling the modric push, either that or he was just being clumsey.

 

[TheMidnightBlue]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

Possibly getting into semantics, but look at this picture. Mario isn't looking at him (important unless he's got superhero vision and can pinpoint Parkers head without looking) and he's off balance, left foot not secured as he's falling to his left. When you're falling over to the side, the inclination is to steady yourself by planting the rear foot behind the lead, rather than taking the time to throw the hind leg over the front to gain balance. He does this exactly and almost catches Parker. Maybe it was intentional, but the more I analyze it, the less deliberate it becomes for me.

i dont think he is aiming at his head and it doesnt matter if he is looking at him or makes contact, he has just kicked his leg back out in anger or for whatever reason why balo does this kind of thing, its petulant and silly and redknapp coming out and pretty saying he stamped on his head is nonsense, but he did kick out and wasnt doing it to regain his balance

Just out of interest, looking at the jpg in the post above yours where Balotelli's right leg is coming down to the ground, if you look at his back you can see Modric's arm pushing him forward.

Given that momentum from the right leg in the motion of going downwards toward the ground and the move forward caused by Modric's shove, would it be unreasonable to suggest that push from Modric (not to blame Modric in anyway, shape or form) would naturally cause his left leg (also coming down) to search for the ground to his forward/left and the right leg to extend back as it was in motion downward anyway?

(hope that all makes sense!)

Yes and that is what he is doing. At the moment of contact from Modric he splays his legs to try and regain a semblance of balance. Unfortunately some people are stupid enough to construe this as an unnatural one whereas bringing his leg forward and falling over painfully is completely natural.

 

[coulsonblue]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

The FA or rather Webb is saying that Balotelli deliberately tried to strike Parker without being able to see.

And that Lescott didn't deliberately strike Kaboul despite clearly seeing the guy.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

Possibly getting into semantics, but look at this picture. Mario isn't looking at him (important unless he's got superhero vision and can pinpoint Parkers head without looking) and he's off balance, left foot not secured as he's falling to his left. When you're falling over to the side, the inclination is to steady yourself by planting the rear foot behind the lead, rather than taking the time to throw the hind leg over the front to gain balance. He does this exactly and almost catches Parker. Maybe it was intentional, but the more I analyze it, the less deliberate it becomes for me.

i dont think he is aiming at his head and it doesnt matter if he is looking at him or makes contact, he has just kicked his leg back out in anger or for whatever reason why balo does this kind of thing, its petulant and silly and redknapp coming out and pretty saying he stamped on his head is nonsense, but he did kick out and wasnt doing it to regain his balance

Just out of interest, looking at the jpg in the post above yours where Balotelli's right leg is coming down to the ground, if you look at his back you can see Modric's arm pushing him forward.

Given that momentum from the right leg in the motion of going downwards toward the ground and the move forward caused by Modric's shove, would it be unreasonable to suggest that push from Modric (not to blame Modric in anyway, shape or form) would naturally cause his left leg (also coming down) to search for the ground to his forward/left and the right leg to extend back as it was in motion downward anyway?

(hope that all makes sense!)

It does to me and imo, this is the only defence that has any realistic prospect of success. The issue of whether there was contact or not is a red herring. This is all about intent.

 

[LoveCity]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

Does anyone know the number of games Mario has been available for vs. the number of games he's been unavailable for this season? It's so frustrating, his season is more stop-start than a typical Micah season (Micah doesn't get suspended, just gets a leg/knee injury every few games!). If Mario could stay fit and out of trouble for an entire season, he'd score over 20 goals easily.

 

[hilts]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

i see you are still being a dumb ass, i was talking about the fans reaction not the offence, i repeat the fans reaction do you get it now or do i have to repeat again for you, i also said you shouldnt listen to city fans views as they are biased and guess what lee dixon is a city fan so well done you

i havent listened to dermot gallagher but he is somewhat in the minority

Lee Dixon does not always stick up for City, you know. He has criticised Balotelli previously as well. He also comes across more as an Arsenal fan, having played for them for so long. It's similar to people saying that Micah also supports Arsenal - wrong. Micah USED to support them but his heart is now at City. Anyway, I digress. Lee Dixon is an ex professional footballer (and he was a damn good one at that) and gave a good explanation as to why it could not be construed as a definite 'stamp'.

Dermot Gallagher is an ex referee (in case you missed it the first time) and is suitably qualified to comment IMO.

Your weak argument about listening to City fans is clearly not valid, as the hundreds of posts on threads about the incident display. SEVERAL City fans are NOT supporting Balotelli and some say the case is unclear, as we are not mind readers. (I'm in the second camp). Whereas the OVERWHELMING majority of Liverpool fans came out in support of Suarez, as did his Club and Manager. Now THAT'S blind loyalty for you. You simply cannot compare the two.

Yet you did.

And I'm the dumb ass?

Yeah, ok.

lee dixon is a city fan and also an arsenal fan after playing for them, my point was that most city fans will be naturally biased its natural and then you quoted dixon which was strange as he supports city, your right gallagher is entitled to his opnion as an ex ref, but its a stretch to suggest refs are always correct, if that was the case we wouldnt argue about their decisions every week.

also many ex footballers have stated they are convinced it was a red so why city supporting dixon gets your nod of approval over all the other ones is beyond me

nearly all liverpool fans supported suarez and it is similar in this case with city fans

nice try though

 

[Heart.net]

Re: SSN Right Now - Balo Charged By FA

People shouldn't be comparing Suarez's incident to Balo's. They are on different levels. One is bigger than the game itself and the other is an incident within the sport no matter how bad it is.

for crying out loud

Yes?