Train said:hilts said:Train said:Yes?
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I'm asking you to explain what your comment meant. Are you insinuating that my comment was invalid in someway?
Correct. Apologies. I was getting ahead of myself due to his comments that Balotelli would win in a court of law.cleavers said:Just to be slightly pedantic, Gallagher said there was no way to know if it was intentional or not, and that's right, only Mario knows that, and if it was, he's more skilfull than I thought he was. It would be nice to hear his version of events, but I expect that will be very carefully managed by the club.strongbowholic said:The difference here of course is that Gallagher has had the opportunity to see it full speed and at all the angles afforded by the cameras in super-slow-mo-hurricane-cam and is still of the opinion it was not intentional and not a red.
strongbowholic said:Correct that it's a stretch to suggest refs are always correct, just like the claim by Webb that he didn't see the incident! ;-)hilts said:DTeacher said:Lee Dixon does not always stick up for City, you know. He has criticised Balotelli previously as well. He also comes across more as an Arsenal fan, having played for them for so long. It's similar to people saying that Micah also supports Arsenal - wrong. Micah USED to support them but his heart is now at City. Anyway, I digress. Lee Dixon is an ex professional footballer (and he was a damn good one at that) and gave a good explanation as to why it could not be construed as a definite 'stamp'.
Dermot Gallagher is an ex referee (in case you missed it the first time) and is suitably qualified to comment IMO.
Your weak argument about listening to City fans is clearly not valid, as the hundreds of posts on threads about the incident display. SEVERAL City fans are NOT supporting Balotelli and some say the case is unclear, as we are not mind readers. (I'm in the second camp). Whereas the OVERWHELMING majority of Liverpool fans came out in support of Suarez, as did his Club and Manager. Now THAT'S blind loyalty for you. You simply cannot compare the two.
Yet you did.
And I'm the dumb ass?
Yeah, ok.
lee dixon is a city fan and also an arsenal fan after playing for them, my point was that most city fans will be naturally biased its natural and then you quoted dixon which was strange as he supports city, your right gallagher is entitled to his opnion as an ex ref, but its a stretch to suggest refs are always correct, if that was the case we wouldnt argue about their decisions every week.
also many ex footballers have stated they are convinced it was a red so why city supporting dixon gets your nod of approval over all the other ones is beyond me
nearly all liverpool fans supported suarez and it is similar in this case with city fans
nice try though
The difference here of course is that Gallagher has had the opportunity to see it full speed and at all the angles afforded by the cameras in super-slow-mo-hurricane-cam and is still of the opinion it was not intentional and not a red.
Train said:hilts said:Train said:Yes?
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I'm asking you to explain what your comment meant. Are you insinuating that my comment was invalid in someway?
When you're falling over to your left you can't regain balance by planting your foot underneath yourself because your momentum is moving you a different direction. Trying to plant your foot anywhere to the right side is impossible to do unless your right leg is much longer than the left, and even then you'd still fall over again because of the momentum. The natural movement would be to do what he did, plant his right leg behind him, or try to swing it in front of his left leg.hilts said:strongbowholic said:Correct that it's a stretch to suggest refs are always correct, just like the claim by Webb that he didn't see the incident! ;-)hilts said:lee dixon is a city fan and also an arsenal fan after playing for them, my point was that most city fans will be naturally biased its natural and then you quoted dixon which was strange as he supports city, your right gallagher is entitled to his opnion as an ex ref, but its a stretch to suggest refs are always correct, if that was the case we wouldnt argue about their decisions every week.
also many ex footballers have stated they are convinced it was a red so why city supporting dixon gets your nod of approval over all the other ones is beyond me
nearly all liverpool fans supported suarez and it is similar in this case with city fans
nice try though
The difference here of course is that Gallagher has had the opportunity to see it full speed and at all the angles afforded by the cameras in super-slow-mo-hurricane-cam and is still of the opinion it was not intentional and not a red.
we could go round in circles all night but this is the way i see it and at the end of the day its my opinion, i was at the game so originally didnt see it but my lad who is a blue text me and said it was a red card when i got home i watched it a good 20 times
as he is stumbling forward he decides to kick his foot back out of pure petulance, at this stage he is unaware of where parkers head is a bit like whem someone throws an arm out when an opponent is behind them.
after watching football for thirty years and playing it and watching many people fall over and try to stop themselves going down i have never seen anyone kick out like that to regain there balance, his right leg should really be going directly down or slighlty to his right and forward to push himself back up.
it is a unnatural movement from someone trying not to fall over and as someone who goes down when touched im not even sure why he would want to stay on his feet anyhow.
all day i must have heard about 30 experts opinions on this and apart from lee dixon and as you say dermot gallagher all seem to see it as i do, i take fellow city fans objections with a pinch of salt
bluelol said:Harry Redknapp – football’s biggest hypocrite?
by PAUL CONNOLLY
Monday, January 23rd, 2012
Harry Redknapp, who spent most of last week aiming poisonous verbal darts in the direction of Manchester City manager, Roberto Mancini, last night went on live television to try to get the FA to take retrospective action against Mario Balotelli for an alleged stamp on Scott Parker during City’s dramatic win against Spurs.
Funny, I thought Harry was against managers trying to get players sent off, even retrospectively. After all, didn’t he criticise Mancini for waving imaginary cards from the touchline? But somehow it’s OK to try to get players sent off if you’re Harry Redknapp. What nauseating hypocrisy.
It wouldn’t be so bad if the alleged target of Balotelli’s heel hadn’t been the thuggish Parker, who spent most of the game chasing David Silva around, kicking lumps out of him. What about Parker, Harry? Should retrospective action be taken against him?
Of course not. Redknapp is national disgrace. Let’s hope the FA never see fit to appoint him as England manager.
hilts said:Train said:hilts said:????
I'm asking you to explain what your comment meant. Are you insinuating that my comment was invalid in someway?
not invalid its just that i explained why i likened it to suarez several times but i guess you didnt read them, no probs