Stadium Expansion (Confirmed)

[Bluemoon230989]

Re: Stadium Expansion excitement!

Not sure whether this is in any way connected but just received a mysterious e-mail from the club entitled "Opportunities like this only happen once in a blue moon" and some spiel about 10am 16.10.

If I remember correctly, in one of those surveys for potential Season Ticket sales we filled in earlier this year, there was a question along the lines of if you are prepared to pay up front for 2-3 years to secure your Season-card at a heavily discounted price or even get your 1st year free in the new extended part of the stadium!

I can't remember the exact wording, however it would be interesting to know if anybody can remember the exact offer and if those who have received this email actually registered an interest in that option!

Then again I could be miles off, but my guess is as good as the next man's guess I suppose!

I received one of those 16.10 e-mails too. Can't recall what answers I gave re the survey but I assume there'll be a follow-up e-mail with details.

Apologies if it's been answered elsewhere, but where in the ground are the seats for those who've received the 16.10 e-mails?

That'd be interesting to know?

 

[6one]

Prices will always go higher with success and need to comply/make profit.

Would you rather be shit? everyone would say no.

The club do a good job of keeping prices low and we're cheaper than utd and cheaper than London clubs even taking into account London tax.

The club doesn't need to provide value tickets in prime locations, that's ridiculous.

 

[DiscoSteve]

Re: Stadium Expansion excitement!

If I remember correctly, in one of those surveys for potential Season Ticket sales we filled in earlier this year, there was a question along the lines of if you are prepared to pay up front for 2-3 years to secure your Season-card at a heavily discounted price or even get your 1st year free in the new extended part of the stadium!

I can't remember the exact wording, however it would be interesting to know if anybody can remember the exact offer and if those who have received this email actually registered an interest in that option!

Then again I could be miles off, but my guess is as good as the next man's guess I suppose!

I received one of those 16.10 e-mails too. Can't recall what answers I gave re the survey but I assume there'll be a follow-up e-mail with details.

Apologies if it's been answered elsewhere, but where in the ground are the seats for those who've received the 16.10 e-mails?

That'd be interesting to know?

Well my email came to the email address associated with my Blue Membership NOT the one associated with my Season Ticket - if that makes sense - even though my Season Ticket is right in the 'to be upgraded to hospitality' zone...

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Prices will always go higher with success and need to comply/make profit.

Would you rather be shit? everyone would say no.

The club do a good job of keeping prices low and we're cheaper than utd and cheaper than London clubs even taking into account London tax.

The club doesn't need to provide value tickets in prime locations, that's ridiculous.

Wait a minute bayern are the most succesful club in europe yet manage to charge 110 quid for a season ticket. The club do not need to raise ticket prices at all, ticket revenue is nothing to them. It isnt ridiculous at all to want people to be not priced out.

Didnt realise the cheaper tickets mean you are shit haha

 

[Balti]

I bet the take up of Blue membership will increase before Wednesday as it gives immediate access to the waiting list and opportunity of a cheap seat or 2015 season.

that's the whole point of this isn't it

that's why I'm not biting

too much fucking marketing spin I'm afraid

it's happening isn't it.........you know of what i speak.......

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

why not just cut the costs for all fans, 425 behind the nets, and 500 down the side, with a few premium areas down the side, fill the 60000 seats, and keep growing the club.

compleltey agree with this, if we want a full stadium gauranteed big crowds, why not cut ticket prices all over the ground. Its kind of a lie sort of that we have the cheapest season tickets, yes we do with value gold, but it was such a limited amount.

Also dont see how this will get old fans back, prices around the rest of the ground are increasing and there will probably be a very limited number of 299 season tickets. Sort of a headline grabber, but in reality it wont really help working class/ struggling fans back

 

[Falastur]

Prices will always go higher with success and need to comply/make profit.

Would you rather be shit? everyone would say no.

The club do a good job of keeping prices low and we're cheaper than utd and cheaper than London clubs even taking into account London tax.

The club doesn't need to provide value tickets in prime locations, that's ridiculous.

Wait a minute bayern are the most succesful club in europe yet manage to charge 110 quid for a season ticket. The club do not need to raise ticket prices at all, ticket revenue is nothing to them. It isnt ridiculous at all to want people to be not priced out.

Didnt realise the cheaper tickets mean you are shit haha

With respect, that's like saying that because our defenders haven't scored any goals and no-one is calling for them to be sold because they haven't scored, that our strikers shouldn't need to score to be valuable to the team either. Yes, Bayern have really cheap season tickets. So do German teams in general. We all know this. But the thing is, Bayern still make a huge amount more money than us - around £100 million a season more as of the end of the 2011-12 season, which is the last season records have come out for (publicly) so far. They outperform us in two of the three of the types of revenue stream - match-day and commercial, we beat them on broadcasting for obvious reasons. They also tend to spend less than us on transfers, and on player salaries. You can't simply argue that because Bayern have really low season ticket prices, we should have them too, because they make all kinds of money that we don't make, and we spend all kinds of money that they don't spend. If we suddenly dropped our season ticket prices to Bayern levels, we'd just be dumping £50m or so more on the club in net losses every season that we can't cover for. On top of all this, going back to the match day revenue thing, the simple fact is that Bayern fans spend more at the games they attend than City fans do, and that's cash that goes into their club's pockets. If you want the season ticket prices lowered then I think you have to be willing to then pump most of the money you save back into the cash in the form of spending money at the ground or on merchandise, because the Germans have us beat in this respect too.

 

[oakiecokie]

You like the Smith's don't you Steve

Heaven knows I'm miserable now ;)

Lol,I just want Atmosphere at City fella and able to be amongst likeminded Supporters... Rather than feeling awkward when I start singing as a group of tourists start taking pictures of me on their Tablet devices and pointing as though we're apart of the entertainment or something.

The more this occurs the more City just turns into the Vermin and it will be time to go then sadly :(

Good on you pal.

The looks I get up in 324 when I start F ing and J fing are great.

You would have thought I'd have threatened to abduct a kid or something.

I still carry on though....

Fuck me so you`re the noisy bastard who sits near me up in the heavens in 324 !!

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

A wasted opportunity - City should have took the bull by the horns and said ''we are building a German style safe standing area'' and had the backing of all the other clubs who have said they want them too and forced the governments hand to end this nonsensical regulation that allows standing in lower league games as well as rugby games (both codes) and standing up in all seated stadiums when hosting rock concerts!

The cost of converting to standing areas would be mightly cheaper and more cost effective than building two third tiers.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Are some people actually not happy with the proposals or just the cost ?

 

[Skashion]

Are some people actually not happy with the proposals or just the cost ?

Cost is none of our business anyway, we're not paying.

 

[citytill1die84]

Are some people actually not happy with the proposals or just the cost ?

Some people are never happy. Could be free people would find something to moan at. My season ticket is cheaper now than it was 10 years ago and I'm happy.

 

[fathellensbellend]

one thing being overlooked, the potential for more income comes from offering away fans a bigger allocation, probably half the top clubs would bring 5000+ fans no problem, and it would certainly add to the atmosphere. Extend the north stand for city fans, add the third tier in the south stand for away fans, and give them 1/2 / 2/3rds of it.

the cheaper seats could then go in the family stand the wings of the third tiers.

for lesser clubs like Fulham, the club could do deals on tickets, to fill the ground, family tickets for 50 quid etc.

 

[flipmode]

This shit escalated quickly, didn't it?

 

[worsleyweb]

one thing being overlooked, the potential for more income comes from offering away fans a bigger allocation, probably half the top clubs would bring 5000+ fans no problem, and it would certainly add to the atmosphere. Extend the north stand for city fans, add the third tier in the south stand for away fans, and give them 1/2 / 2/3rds of it.

the cheaper seats could then go in the family stand the wings of the third tiers.

for lesser clubs like Fulham, the club could do deals on tickets, to fill the ground, family tickets for 50 quid etc.

Good point- everton, utd, Liverpool, arse, spurs from the top of my head used to allways fill the old platt lane and it made it a good atmosphere. I think it wold be great to give these clubs 6000 tickets.

 

[toffee balls]

Heaven knows I'm miserable now ;)

Lol,I just want Atmosphere at City fella and able to be amongst likeminded Supporters... Rather than feeling awkward when I start singing as a group of tourists start taking pictures of me on their Tablet devices and pointing as though we're apart of the entertainment or something.

The more this occurs the more City just turns into the Vermin and it will be time to go then sadly :(

Good on you pal.

The looks I get up in 324 when I start F ing and J fing are great.

You would have thought I'd have threatened to abduct a kid or something.

I still carry on though....

Fuck me so you`re the noisy bastard who sits near me up in the heavens in 324 !!

Sure is boss

 

[flipmode]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site

Imagine you leave East Manchester for a few years and then come back. It won't look anything like what it did. It's crazy how fast the area is transforming.

 

[Gordyola]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site

I see the OS now has an artist's rendition of the new stadium with both new ends added. It is as below:

Let's look at that in a slightly larger size:

What I can see here:

- Note the roof now seems to be better integrated with the roof over the stands than in previous concepts. Previous concepts had the roof at a whole other level, kind of like the uneven roofing at Maine Road, which made it seem really likely that the stands would also be redeveloped later, as the roof just did not seem right at all. Now the roof seems more natural, even if it's weird how low it goes in each corner. To me, this means that the club view expanding the stands as a very long-term goal, if they plan to do it at all in fact. 60,000 could be the capacity for 10 or 20 years before any upgrade. I suspect the club has no plans to go past 60k right now.
- It's practically impossible to see the guy lines on that pic, but it's obvious from the angles that the poles sticking out of the spirals are not supporting the new end. There are two poles on each end supporting the roof, but they come directly out of the stand, which I guess means much greater strength in the superstructure itself. Notice the whacking great pillars where the redeveloped ends meet the old stands though. That's the trade-off for reinforcing one part of the ground and not all of it.
- My initial suspicions about the outside are correct. The ends will now be very wide, so if the club does ever redo the stands to match the height of the ends, the spirals will have to go and probably won't be replaced. See the last point - the spirals aren't even needed to support the new superstructure, so I doubt they'd be included if the outer edge of the stadium was pushed out on their sides too.
- That wall of glass looks cool, although it would look better if it were ornamented IMO - funky lights at night, a giant screen for projecting highlights, a big letter display with our name. You can see our badge - just - on that image, but it's sitting alone in a huge sheet of plate glass. Still, that space offers the room for the escalators people were talking about so I'd bet they are on the menu.

All just my interpretation, of course.

"The whacking great pillars" isn't that the large drain which is at the back of the south stand now?

The current CableNet stays in place, as I posted many times during speculation, this is the primary structure of the roof and to break it would mean the whole roof would have to be removed The solution that has been arrived at is clever but a compromise The current ground anchor supports at the end remain in place a new outer ring structure some 10m back is built this actual encompasses the ground support thus the CableNet remains The old cladding and secondary roof support is removed and a new one put in place that is fixed to the new ring structure at the back and supported by CableNet at pitch side The pitch of the roof is reversed from sloping up to down The "pillars" you refer to are drains not supporting structure There are no escalators I clarified this at the meeting I was invited too recently. the spirals remain in place. There are going to be 4 big screens The away fans stay put with an additional third tier segment There will be a dead zone in the top of the corners.

 

[S04]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site

I tink I recall that someone on here mentioned that ultimately the east and west stands might be converted in a similar way giving us a capacity approaching 80k.. Obviously something for the future but hey, think big!!

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Are some people actually not happy with the proposals or just the cost ?

Cost is none of our business anyway, we're not paying.

Sorry Skash I meant the cost of the proposed £299 cards?
I think people are moaning for nothing.