Stadium Expansion (Confirmed)

[mcfc1894]

Very short sighted of you. I'm sure there are loads of existing season ticket holders who would like to but the cheaper seats in the new stand. You are suggesting they should be penalised in favour of fans who do not currently attend? It's not good business practice if you are trying to encourage customer (supporter) loyalty to offer a better deal to a new customer than to an existing and loyal one.

The idea that existing SC holders can put down deposits for themselves, and their mates who may want to return is a fantastic idea as it doesn't penalise existing SC holders, while still encouraging new / returning fans the chance to get an affordable ticket.

Also you have to bear in mind, it's unlikely a returning fan who has been priced out up to now will want to sit on his own! It's very likely he (or she) has mates that are already SC holders. Giving them the chance to get cheap seats together in the South Stand is surely going to act as a further incentive to come back.

I'm sure City have also taken in to account which seats would be easier to sell to the occasional fan. I would guess the type of non hardcore than that can only make a few games a season would much rather buy the occasional ticket in the Colin Bell stand than the South Stand.

Hundreds of fans on here have also expressed their admiration for The Wall at Dortmund and the great atmosphere created by a huge stand behind the goal of hardcore fans. By giving existing SC the chance to buy the cheaper £299 tickets, it goes some way to ensuring the fans in the South Stand remain a passionate hard core who want to sing and create atmosphere, as opposed to the occasional day tripper / new fan who has only recently taken an interest in the club.

Not at all.

I'm not taking sides.

To me it's not about us and them. It's about getting missing City fans back.(into the ground) And by getting them back via the incentive of a cheap season ticket.

As it stands they don't have a season ticket unlike me and you.(?) In a nutshell they can't get one. So they either have to buy a match ticket or miss out.

Yes we pay for the privilege, but at least we get to watch the matches. They can't or can't afford too.(in some cases)

All I'm saying is give new and old fans the chance to buy the cheaper season tickets first. If they sell out or not, existing season ticket holders will still renew their season tickets. They won't bother, they'll just do it.

As long as I've been on here the general consensus is that City need to get missing City fans back, via an expanded stadium, and via cheaper tickets. Now it's happening, why are the club moving the goal posts by offering the cheap season tickets to current season ticket holders first? How is that going to attract those missing fans back? Will they want to buy the more expensive and vacated seats/season tickets? I don't think so.

"Hi, I'd like to buy a £299 season ticket."

"Sorry, the majority have been sold to existing season ticket holders relocating."

"The rest have now sold out."

"OK, what's left?"

"The seats that have been vacated or more expensive seats."

"No thanks."

"Bye!"

Or alternatively:

"Hi, I've been a ST holder for 40 years and have made financial sacrifices to support the club I love and grew up with."

"How can we help you?"

"Times are tough, I'm interested in relocating to one of the cheaper seats you've been advertising"

"Sorry, we're keeping those for people who've not been to a match for 10 years"

"Oh. So what can I do?"

"Carry on paying up or sod off"

Extreme perhaps, but I can see both sides of the argument. We'll have to wait and see won't we? Whatever happens, there'll be winners and losers. But that's life innit?

erm, existing season ticket holders get priority on relocation before any newbies can order one. so if you are a season ticket holder now or next season, you get the chance to relocate to the cheaper seats before non season ticket holders. read the faq on the site.

 

[Eccles Blue]

This shit escalated quickly, didn't it?

It seems all the lunatics escaped from the asylum at the same time. City announce a stadium expansion to c61500 with some cheap tickets available for £299 and on come the moaners. Its beyond me.

For those of us that have given up due to the rising costs the thought of seasoncards at a reasonable £299 sounds great to get us back.

However it now looks like only about 75% of the new 3rd tier seats will be £299 and it's likely that the majority will be taken by existing seasoncard holders relocating due to the high prices in other areas of the ground. Asking for £100 to be on the waiting list is a piss take, so they can stick it

You do have the correct user name don't you? :-)

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The only daft thing about this thread is this bizarre concept that somehow adug were going to pump yet another £100m in the club and not expect a return beyond tens of thousands of happy fans sitting in cheap seats.

The £299 tickets are a simple pr exercise, a Trojan horse. I'm sure they will keep a few of the seats relatively cheap on an ongoing basis for the same reasons; partly altruistic but mainly for show. But the club, top to bottom, are on a desperate surge to try to stop losing money, and maybe even get close to break even one day. Make no fucking bones about it, soriano is tasked with pushing revenue forward and one of the areas we lag hugely behind our rivals is match day income, both corporate and general.

I'm not moaning about this, I just accept that that's how it is. My only disappointment is that the club could have had a stab at solving the atmosphere problem here in conjunction with these cheap seats.

Clearly the club are trying to move to a situation where there's a bigger discrepancy in pricing between the good and the shit seats, like at many other grounds.you can see it creeping in year by year and this expansion is part of it. What's a bit odd, though, is that these cheap seats (back of the top tier behind the goal) probably aren't the shittest seats in the ground. They are the front 6-8 rows right around the bottom tier, and they will be twice as much as these.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

What's a bit odd, though, is that these cheap seats (back of the top tier behind the goal) probably aren't the shittest seats in the ground. They are the front 6-8 rows right around the bottom tier, and they will be twice as much as these.

Totally agree with this DD. Went to an Eintracht Frankfurt v Stuttgart game earlier this year and was sat towards the back of the stand behind the goal, which I would guess will be about the same height as the revised North and South Stands. The view was much better then the highest seat behind the goal at the current Etihad, at least as far as I'm concerned. If I'm sat alongside the pitch I prefer to be relatively low down, but the view is far better behind the goal if you're higher up imo. On that basis the pricing policy is a little curious.

I also think 'ultra' fans would want to be as close to the pitch as possible for various reasons. Maybe the club have been mindful of the need to generate more atmosphere, which having the most vocal fans at the back (and therefore nearest the roof) will help towards.

 

[somapop]

How Ironic.... about 20 posts of people moaning about the moaners.

I welcome expanding the stadium, it makes perfect business sense for this business sorry I meant "our" club.
However as a Customer I've seen my SC rise (109) from £500 to £740 which resulted in me relocating to 111 this season (aswell as having Showsec down my neck)
And although my SC this season at £580 is reasonable, I can only see this increasing.

The £299 SC just seems like a clever PR exercise when I started to do the Math and look at numbers (guestimate) of how Many potentially will be at this price.

I am not moaning, I just feel as a business it makes perfect sense to have fans like myself away from the stadium whilst Tourists fly into Manchester with Etihad and stay overnight at the Malmaison (or new hotel built on the Campus) whilst spending their cash in the clubstore and at Citysquare.

The best seats for the best customers.
Something I have to accept and move on as I'm not prepared to sit in a stadium paying for the privilege sat amongst Tourists types with Middle-class families with no Atmosphere.

If you are happy with this then fair enough. Enjoy your time there.
I just wanted an area for Singers to improve atmosphere and keep a more traditional football environment.

It seems the club are chasing the £££ more but they are just doing their job as a business.

I wondered how long it would be before the 'M' word was used.

Malmaison?

 

[CITYBOY1000]

The only daft thing about this thread is this bizarre concept that somehow adug were going to pump yet another £100m in the club and not expect a return beyond tens of thousands of happy fans sitting in cheap seats.

The £299 tickets are a simple pr exercise, a Trojan horse. I'm sure they will keep a few of the seats relatively cheap on an ongoing basis for the same reasons; partly altruistic but mainly for show. But the club, top to bottom, are on a desperate surge to try to stop losing money, and maybe even get close to break even one day. Make no fucking bones about it, soriano is tasked with pushing revenue forward and one of the areas we lag hugely behind our rivals is match day income, both corporate and general.

I'm not moaning about this, I just accept that that's how it is. My only disappointment is that the club could have had a stab at solving the atmosphere problem here in conjunction with these cheap seats.

Clearly the club are trying to move to a situation where there's a bigger discrepancy in pricing between the good and the shit seats, like at many other grounds.you can see it creeping in year by year and this expansion is part of it. What's a bit odd, though, is that these cheap seats (back of the top tier behind the goal) probably aren't the shittest seats in the ground. They are the front 6-8 rows right around the bottom tier, and they will be twice as much as these.

Suppose it depends DD.

I don't have great eyesight. Being back at the top of the world doesn't suit me but my mate has eyes like a sh*ithouse rat and it doesn't bother him.

I also actually like being closer to ground level and nearer to the pitch. You don't get the expansive overview that you do from high up (if you have the required 20/20 vision), but you get the feel for the game more, the smell of the turf, the proximity with the action.

Just my view.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I wondered how long it would be before the 'M' word was used.

Malmaison?

errr.....Moaners ;-)

 

[jrb]

Not at all.

I'm not taking sides.

To me it's not about us and them. It's about getting missing City fans back.(into the ground) And by getting them back via the incentive of a cheap season ticket.

As it stands they don't have a season ticket unlike me and you.(?) In a nutshell they can't get one. So they either have to buy a match ticket or miss out.

Yes we pay for the privilege, but at least we get to watch the matches. They can't or can't afford too.(in some cases)

All I'm saying is give new and old fans the chance to buy the cheaper season tickets first. If they sell out or not, existing season ticket holders will still renew their season tickets. They won't bother, they'll just do it.

As long as I've been on here the general consensus is that City need to get missing City fans back, via an expanded stadium, and via cheaper tickets. Now it's happening, why are the club moving the goal posts by offering the cheap season tickets to current season ticket holders first? How is that going to attract those missing fans back? Will they want to buy the more expensive and vacated seats/season tickets? I don't think so.

"Hi, I'd like to buy a £299 season ticket."

"Sorry, the majority have been sold to existing season ticket holders relocating."

"The rest have now sold out."

"OK, what's left?"

"The seats that have been vacated or more expensive seats."

"No thanks."

"Bye!"

Or alternatively:

"Hi, I've been a ST holder for 40 years and have made financial sacrifices to support the club I love and grew up with."

"How can we help you?"

"Times are tough, I'm interested in relocating to one of the cheaper seats you've been advertising"

"Sorry, we're keeping those for people who've not been to a match for 10 years"

"Oh. So what can I do?"

"Carry on paying up or sod off"

Extreme perhaps, but I can see both sides of the argument. We'll have to wait and see won't we? Whatever happens, there'll be winners and losers. But that's life innit?

erm, existing season ticket holders get priority on relocation before any newbies can order one. so if you are a season ticket holder now or next season, you get the chance to relocate to the cheaper seats before non season ticket holders. read the faq on the site.

Or alternately.

"Sorry, we're keeping those seats for City fans who currently don't have and can't get a season ticket because our season tickets have been sold out for x(?) years."

"I appreciate your loyalty Sir."

"However, we feel current season ticket holders as a whole are more than happy with their seats and location within the stadium."

"The opportunity to relocate was afforded to them at the start of the season."

"If any £299 season tickets remain, those will be offered to current season ticket holders like yourself. (who have been ST holders for 40 years and have made financial sacrifices to support the club you love and have grown up with."

"Please put your name down on the relocation waiting list."

"We(the club) appreciate your continued support."

"Can I help you with anything else Sir?"

Of course it doesn't matter, and you and I are just jousting and going through the motions. As others have pointed out, the decision has already been made.

The outcome will be interesting. :-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

eyes like a sh*ithouse rat .

Never heard that one before! :-)

I shall copy it and claim it as my own ;-)

 

[oakiecokie]

Are some people actually not happy with the proposals or just the cost ?

Its only the minority THB and they don`t know what the fuck they want if the truth be told.<br /><br />-- Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:30 am --<br /><br />

Good on you pal.

The looks I get up in 324 when I start F ing and J fing are great.

You would have thought I'd have threatened to abduct a kid or something.

I still carry on though....

Fuck me so you`re the noisy bastard who sits near me up in the heavens in 324 !!

Sure is boss

Are you anywhere near Row K ??