Stadium Expansion

[Halfpenny]

Is 75k possible for COMS?

No its not, 60k is top its in the planning when the stadium got built. another tier behind each goal will extend it to 60k

Thought that was the case.

 

[mancity dan]

I just hope when we do increase the capacity that the stadium still looks as good rather than the eye-sore that is the Swamp

I am at work so can't see this picture

 

[whp.blue]

I think football is different with regards to 'selling out'. In a supermarket if you sell out of onions the word spreads that the place in question never had any stock left, and thus people go and shop elsewhere. In football a 'sell out' is a sign of success, and any excess, in this case - empty seats, are frowned upon by the footballing community. Sell outs over a long period of time creates demand; the domino effect of people wanting tickets in fear of missing out.

If a stadium is full of empty seats then people are more relaxed about buying, and if they're too relaxed they may not even bother buying at all. If a stadium is full week in week out then people become concerned about missing out and thus become more pro active with their ticket hunt. If you look at United, they were getting 44,000 when they started winning the league. They expanded it after selling out every match for around three seasons, with Government money of course, to 55,000 when they rebuilt the North Stand. When that sold out every match they put another tier on the East Stand (61,000), followed by another tier on the Stretford End (68,000). When that sold out every match they filled in the corners and got up to 76,000. That's a 15 year development plan sustained by continued sell outs and success on the field.

At City a good side and a bit of hope sees us selling out 47,500 and that's without winning anything and a poor top division side sees us getting about 42,000, which is pretty good no matter what anyone says. We need to fill up COMS for three years and build up an excess base of supporters who have not been for years and are finally being lured back in, along with glory hunters and tourists as well, like it or not! Then we can think about putting 6,000 on the South Stand, and when we sell out 53,500 every games for 2-3 years we can put 6,000 on the North Stand as well. So in reality we're not shy off a decade before we're value for a 60,000 seater stadium - going off the successful United model.
Empty seats scare people off, our Cup games are an example of this. There are thousands who don't come because they don't want to sit in a half empty stadium - another domino effect.

football is more like a supermarket selling out of ciggies there is an addictive element to the process an we need to get as many fans addicted as possible

 

[Danamy]

A mate who works at city has told me the owners have put 400 million aside to expand the stadium to 75,000.

Can't see myself why we would make it that big, but hopefully its true.

This is going to happen and it could be as soon as the end of this season.
I've also spoke to someone who has seen the plans for the new training complex that's going to be built on the land bought near the ground.
They said the plans are out of this world!!

I mentioned this to some in PM about a month ago that will back me up that it's not bollox

 

[FCUK]

I am at work so can't see this picture

I don't like the roof. I would like the roof to be like at Berlin Olympic Stadium. Then it would be perfect.

 

[Deleted member 14625]

We still have thousands of fans, proper fans, who dont go to games! And just cos they dont go doesnt mean they are any less a blue than me or you! My Dad went to City regularly from 1965-2005 but got sick of watching a poor team in a stadium he really didnt like; and my Mam went to City every home game from 1967ish til about 1982 when i was born and then went sporadically from about 1990-2005 but like my Dad didnt like the new stadium and sacked it off! and there are LOADS of fans like this! you can see already that we have upped our seasoncard holders this season, give it 10 years and we'd have a load!

If we get a good team together and really start playing well and competing for trophies then we could sell out a 60,000 stadium easily, but i wouldnt want to go too big cos the big stadiums have no atmosphere - and our atmosphere is shit already (as Wolves fans told us about 100 times a few weeks ago! it was slightly annoying that they sang it so many times, but i also felt a bit embarrassed cos they were right!) And you'd also get the shit fans that arent proper fans coming if the stadium was too big and we'd be the new United!

Id be happy with 60,000 - i reckon there are 60-65,000 proper blues!

 

[ajw]

A mate who works at city has told me the owners have put 400 million aside to expand the stadium to 75,000.

Can't see myself why we would make it that big, but hopefully its true.

How Can They Do That If They Dont Own It? And If The Council Allow It Becuase They'll Benfit Alot More Money A Year They're Not Goin 2 Sell :/

I Liked Taskins Quote When He Was Owner ' If The Council Dont Sell Within 10 Years , Il Just Build A New Stadium :) '

 

[sam the drummer]

We'll whilst we're at it I'd love to change the spirals so they are made of glass or something else and the concrete is abit boring and bland

 

[Anonymous]

I think football is different with regards to 'selling out'. In a supermarket if you sell out of onions the word spreads that the place in question never had any stock left, and thus people go and shop elsewhere. In football a 'sell out' is a sign of success, and any excess, in this case - empty seats, are frowned upon by the footballing community. Sell outs over a long period of time creates demand; the domino effect of people wanting tickets in fear of missing out.

If a stadium is full of empty seats then people are more relaxed about buying, and if they're too relaxed they may not even bother buying at all. If a stadium is full week in week out then people become concerned about missing out and thus become more pro active with their ticket hunt. If you look at United, they were getting 44,000 when they started winning the league. They expanded it after selling out every match for around three seasons, with Government money of course, to 55,000 when they rebuilt the North Stand. When that sold out every match they put another tier on the East Stand (61,000), followed by another tier on the Stretford End (68,000). When that sold out every match they filled in the corners and got up to 76,000. That's a 15 year development plan sustained by continued sell outs and success on the field.

At City a good side and a bit of hope sees us selling out 47,500 and that's without winning anything and a poor top division side sees us getting about 42,000, which is pretty good no matter what anyone says. We need to fill up COMS for three years and build up an excess base of supporters who have not been for years and are finally being lured back in, along with glory hunters and tourists as well, like it or not! Then we can think about putting 6,000 on the South Stand, and when we sell out 53,500 every games for 2-3 years we can put 6,000 on the North Stand as well. So in reality we're not shy off a decade before we're value for a 60,000 seater stadium - going off the successful United model.

Empty seats scare people off, our Cup games are an example of this. There are thousands who don't come because they don't want to sit in a half empty stadium - another domino effect.

SPOT ON!! i have said this in the past. If we go from 48k to 75k straight away then we would be looking at around 50-55k for the majority of games, that's 20k empty seats, it would be horrible.

If people know that there are 20,000 empty seats then they can decide to go to the game up until kick off and the chances are if they haven't been going regulary or if the game is on TV then they will decide not to go as they have a choice to go to the match. If we are selling out 48k-55k every week and tickets are hard to come by then there would be demand for an extra 10k-15k City fans who would want to go but can't because it's sold out, that is when you expand more as the extra seats that become available will be valued more than they would if you went from 48k to 75k in one go.

I am sure ADUG are good business men and surely they know what to do. If you wanted to start a chain of restaurants you wouldn't build 10 straight away, you'd build one, make it the bee's knee's, get a fantastic reputation and make it a huge success and then expand as people will get exicted that a fantastic restaurant is coming to your town, it's the same with the expansion.

 

[Bonol]

Lets just learn to fly first, hey.