Stadium Expansion

[Ricster]

Maine Road had a capacity of 35,151. My apologies. Once that season against Liverpool we filled it. The rest was close, but we didn't even fill it for the derby that year.

Have you got any evidence at all to back you up on that one because it certainly goes against what I can remember which is that I couldn't get a ticket for love or money. I didn't even get a ticket for the last game at Maine Road against Southampton. I was outside the ground with a few thousand other City fans who couldn't get one of the tickets that were apparently freely available.

-- Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:41 pm --

All I want from City Street is a few decent pubs! Anything like that is a bonus.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfcstats.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfcstats.com/</a>
Click on matches, seasons, then 02/03 and it has the full list of matches, results and attendence

 

[fathellensbellend]

I've never said that we won't need to expand at some point. I just don't want to see thousands of empty seats by expanding too soon. If our owners and my fellow blues are unanimous in wanting to expand now, so be it.

I've said this previously. I've got mates, parents, uncles+cousins who are massive City fans but don't go to the CoMS for various reasons: they think the ground is shit, they find it difficult to get to and from, they haven't found a decent pub to go to before and after the game and they stopped enjoying the day out, the team was shit never won or even scored for 8 months, one of my uncles hasn't attended games since they knocked the old Kippax and Platt Lane down saying that totally changed City from what he knew them as and he's only in his early 40's!

a top shit 60,000+ stadium and a great day out that is easy to get to and from would easily coax all of these people to come and attend games again - I know it cos they are as big a bunch of blues as I am, they're why I support City!

your family and friends cannot be that committed if some havnt been arsed since 1994.

 

[Halfpenny]

Don't want to read through the full thread, but how is the expansion going to be achieved? I heard about redeveloping the North Stand but not the South Stand. In that case is the North going to be a one-tier 'end'?

 

[inbetween]

To echo whats already been said, i goto as many games as i can but the only real attraction is the game itself. In the past i'd go and get drunk it'd be a big day out.

I drive to City nowadays because the train is expensive, beer is hard to come by and pretty much unavailable within a mile of the stadium, don't really want to have a pint thats £3.50 while standing up reading my program. Half my mates smoke so can't even light-up when we get to the ground its just not a day out with the lads anymore.

My ideal day out is get into Manchester about 12, kick back in a pub near the ground, have a laugh and get a bit pissed tbh, then watch the blues, but thanks to this countries soft arse laws its such a 'quiet' day out shall we say.

City Street will change things if its done properly, by that i mean a few large pubs you can get to a few hours before the game and some gathering type places where you can meet your mates, that would be pretty decent, if it was like that would deffo consider a season ticket next year, just don't have the money to drive to city every week for 2 hours of football at the moment.

 

[squirtyflower]

To echo whats already been said, i goto as many games as i can but the only real attraction is the game itself. In the past i'd go and get drunk it'd be a big day out.

I drive to City nowadays because the train is expensive, beer is hard to come by and pretty much unavailable within a mile of the stadium, don't really want to have a pint thats £3.50 while standing up reading my program. Half my mates smoke so can't even light-up when we get to the ground its just not a day out with the lads anymore.

My ideal day out is get into Manchester about 12, kick back in a pub near the ground, have a laugh and get a bit pissed tbh, then watch the blues, but thanks to this countries soft arse laws its such a 'quiet' day out shall we say.

City Street will change things if its done properly, by that i mean a few large pubs you can get to a few hours before the game and some gathering type places where you can meet your mates, that would be pretty decent, if it was like that would deffo consider a season ticket next year, just don't have the money to drive to city every week for 2 hours of football at the moment.

i can see where you are coming from
we meet up in town and drink in there until half an hour before the game
then hop a taxi to the game, couple a quid each, sorted

 

[Deleted member 14625]

[quote="fathellensbellend]your family and friends cannot be that committed if some havnt been arsed since 1994.[/quote]

My dad went from 1966-2005, my man 1972-2005, my uncle who hasn't been since the mid 90's gave me hundreds of programmes from the 70's+80's to add to my collection, my Grandad went from the 50's-about1996! I have a seasoncard now but I'm not a patch on what my family have followed City like over the years!

But that was my point! somewhere along the line City have lost core fans who were regular attenders for years! and they would definately come back if there was something special to come back to sit in and watch! so a big fuck off stadium would not be so far fetched to fill, I maintain that there are about 65-70,000 proper City fans, just cos they don't go now doesn't mean they aren't proper fans!

We can't boast about the 84,569 if we think that armchair City fans who have been in the past aren't committed enough to go again, cos in no way at all did we get 80,000 every week back then!

 

[SWSB]

not sure what kind of view you would get if you were on the back rows behind the goal.Could you make out the players from that distance away? 60,000 should be the maximum to aim for.Make season tickets a lot cheaper,say £380(£20 a game)for east and west and £285(£15 a game) for south and north.

 

[blueH1969]

we would never fill a 75k ground,id much rather see a full 48k then a halfempty 75k ground,so just leave well alone for now an see wfere we are in 4/5 years time

 

[MCFC13]

we would never fill a 75k ground,id much rather see a full 48k then a halfempty 75k ground,so just leave well alone for now an see wfere we are in 4/5 years time

You've got to start planning for the future now, not wait and see if it happens, with all the investment that is coming to the club and area the planning needs to start now.

Priced correctly and with plenty of other entertainment people will come, old fans who have drifted away as well as the new fans our increasing popularity and media attention will bring.

 

[JULES]

it would be nice to have a stadium big enough to accommodate any fans that want to go, a lot of people can`t make that decision till the day of the game, it would be nice to be able to just turn up at coms and know you can get in any game, 65K I believe would be fantstic for all concerned

 

[uwe282828]

id much rather pay 300 quid and be able to afford a season ticket.

 

[blueH1969]

we would never fill a 75k ground,id much rather see a full 48k then a halfempty 75k ground,so just leave well alone for now an see wfere we are in 4/5 years time

You've got to start planning for the future now, not wait and see if it happens, with all the investment that is coming to the club and area the planning needs to start now.

Priced correctly and with plenty of other entertainment people will come, old fans who have drifted away as well as the new fans our increasing popularity and media attention will bring.

i understand what ur saying,but i just cant see us ever getting them sort of crowds,41years iv been going an i think are best ever average attendence has been 39k,please someone correct me if im wrong

 

[squirtyflower]

You've got to start planning for the future now, not wait and see if it happens, with all the investment that is coming to the club and area the planning needs to start now.

Priced correctly and with plenty of other entertainment people will come, old fans who have drifted away as well as the new fans our increasing popularity and media attention will bring.

i understand what ur saying,but i just cant see us ever getting them sort of crowds,41years iv been going an i think are best ever average attendence has been 39k,please someone correct me if im wrong

last year we averaged 42900
the year before 42126
the year before that 39997

and this year we are 45292

seems you could be wrong, and the trend is upwards and accelerating during a recession

 

[Skashion]

Have you got any evidence at all to back you up on that one because it certainly goes against what I can remember which is that I couldn't get a ticket for love or money. I didn't even get a ticket for the last game at Maine Road against Southampton. I was outside the ground with a few thousand other City fans who couldn't get one of the tickets that were apparently freely available.

-- Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:41 pm --

All I want from City Street is a few decent pubs! Anything like that is a bonus.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfcstats.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfcstats.com/</a>
Click on matches, seasons, then 02/03 and it has the full list of matches, results and attendence

and how do those statistics prove whether we sold out our allocation or not?

 

[Dyed Petya]

You've got to start planning for the future now, not wait and see if it happens, with all the investment that is coming to the club and area the planning needs to start now.

Priced correctly and with plenty of other entertainment people will come, old fans who have drifted away as well as the new fans our increasing popularity and media attention will bring.

i understand what ur saying,but i just cant see us ever getting them sort of crowds,41years iv been going an i think are best ever average attendence has been 39k,please someone correct me if im wrong

Since we moved to CoMS, the only time the average has been below 40K for league games was in 2006/7, when it was 39,997.

In terms of attendances when we were still at Maine Road, we also averaged over 40K in 1976/7 and 1977/8, but the post-War best there was 42,725 in 1947/8.

Info here: http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/manc.htm.

 

[Skashion]

i understand what ur saying,but i just cant see us ever getting them sort of crowds,41years iv been going an i think are best ever average attendence has been 39k,please someone correct me if im wrong

last year we averaged 42900
the year before 42126
the year before that 39997

and this year we are 45292

seems you could be wrong, and the trend is upwards and accelerating during a recession

Well, the full trend is:

2003–04 46,384
2004–05 45,192
2005–06 42,856
2006–07 39,997
2007–08 42,077
2008–09 42,887
2009-10 45,292

But we've certainly had averages above 39k.

 

[squirtyflower]

last year we averaged 42900
the year before 42126
the year before that 39997

and this year we are 45292

seems you could be wrong, and the trend is upwards and accelerating during a recession

Well, the full trend is:

2003–04 46,384
2004–05 45,192
2005–06 42,856
2006–07 39,997
2007–08 42,077
2008–09 42,887
2009-10 45,292

But we've certainly had averages above 39k.

well all of them are above 39k, and you could argue 40k near as damnit

 

[blueH1969]

i understand what ur saying,but i just cant see us ever getting them sort of crowds,41years iv been going an i think are best ever average attendence has been 39k,please someone correct me if im wrong

last year we averaged 42900
the year before 42126
the year before that 39997

and this year we are 45292

seems you could be wrong, and the trend is upwards and accelerating during a recession

yes yes yes i no,i was thinking more of when we were at maine rd an we had a much bigger capacity,SORRY

 

[Rammy Blue]

Well, the full trend is:

2003–04 46,384
2004–05 45,192
2005–06 42,856
2006–07 39,997
2007–08 42,077
2008–09 42,887
2009-10 45,292

But we've certainly had averages above 39k.

well all of them are above 39k, and you could argue 40k near as damnit

and it's not like we were title challengers or in the Chumps league in any of them either.

 

[squirtyflower]

well all of them are above 39k, and you could argue 40k near as damnit

and it's not like we were title challengers or in the Chumps league in any of them either.

agreed
which is why now is probably the right time to increase the capacity