Still angry

mosssideblue said:
City has cost me in xs of 2K this season but I don't rock up thinking we have a divine right to beat anyone who dares to tread on our turf. Nor do I think football is as black and white as you and many others seam to think it is. Sure, we could have done much better, but I appreciate when humans are up against humans, any outcome is possible (result and performance).

Putting blame and anger purely down to the manager, is simply naive IMO.

Will I be stumping up £2k again next season, you can bet your arse I will
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Incredibly simplistic view yet accusing others of thinking in 'black & white'.

Throwing the worn old 'divine right' bollocks at fans who have been going for nearly 50 years, simply because they don't share your view. It's not possible to reach this opinion by reasoned thought so we must think we have a devine right to beat 'anyone'.

If that is the limit of your understanding of all the many detailed points made by people on this forum, who don't share yiur view, it's not surprising you can't figure out why they feel as they do.

Read the thread on Oliver Holt's piece.

Go ask a football supporter who isn't a City fan whether they think Pellegrini has the squad operating to the level it should. Ask them if they would be motivated to run through a brick wall for him.

Go ask a few youth coaches whether they think he has helped the club in that area.
 
mosssideblue said:
City has cost me in xs of 2K this season but I don't rock up thinking we have a divine right to beat anyone who dares to tread on our turf. Nor do I think football is as black and white as you and many others seam to think it is. Sure, we could have done much better, but I appreciate when humans are up against humans, any outcome is possible (result and performance).

Putting blame and anger purely down to the manager, is simply naive IMO.

Will I be stumping up £2k again next season, you can bet your arse I will
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I'd say it's naïve to think the manager won't get the blame. That's his job.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
The tactics were to try and sneak the win. Our biggest names didn't deliver. Pep is a bigger drawer and hopefully we will recruit players who at ease at the highest level!

The game totally fizzled out when their keeper made out he had been shot and stayed down for a few minutes. We had a rare bit of pressure before then (and we didn't know at the time about the Ramos hand ball).

As the saying goes, experience is the thing you get the moment after you need it!
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We shouldn't need 'experience' in the last ten of a cup game where we need 1 goal though. Nor 'big players'.

We need passion, alehouse football, anything. We don't need Aguero we need any fucker to stuck a foot out & deflect a ball in, it doesn't matter who. Fight, lump, jump leather, whatever.

There is an undercurrent of 'we're a bit short in centre mid, & Aguero's struggling, so we can't win the title'.

If Leicester had thought the same way, they would be in the bottom 3. Swap their manager & team for ours for the last ten mins v Madrid & they would have created at least one scoring chance.

We need to turn up today with attitude & if we do, we'll win.
 
Blue Mooner said:
Are you 'really' praising Sunderland who are playing out of their skin to avoid being in the 'bottom three' !! Maybe if Sunderland players had played like that all season they wouldn't be fighting relegation?

I find the slagging of our players who got us to the champions league semi final (well beyond the rags, Arsenal Chelsea by the way) disgusting quite frankly.

If I was in the City dressing room right now being slagged by the media after running my tripe out for 90 minutes I would be fired right up, if it was by my own fans, I'd be thinking what's the f*ckin point, with supporters like these who needs enemies. People seem to be confusing a lack of effort by being beaten by a better side.

Those players got us to a champions league semi final, further in that trophy than any time in our history and they are getting a slagging for it! Unbelievable.

To suggest for a second that those players didn't try is an insult to every single one of them and throws all the achievements that those same players have delivered for us over the last 5 years back in their faces.

At the moment I'm ashamed to be a City fan, because I'm associated with what looks like a bunch of ungrateful twats, and this in advance of a critical game that we need to win and when the players need our full support.
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What a clown. I don't know what he's been watching to come up with shit like this.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Incredibly simplistic view yet accusing others of thinking in 'black & white'.

Throwing the worn old 'divine right' bollocks at fans who have been going for nearly 50 years, simply because they don't share your view. It's not possible to reach this opinion by reasoned thought so we must think we have a devine right to beat 'anyone'.

If that is the limit of your understanding of all the many detailed points made by people on this forum, who don't share yiur view, it's not surprising you can't figure out why they feel as they do.

Read the thread on Oliver Holt's piece.

Go ask a football supporter who isn't a City fan whether they think Pellegrini has the squad operating to the level it should. Ask them if they would be motivated to run through a brick wall for him.

Go ask a few youth coaches whether they think he has helped the club in that area.
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Lets agree to disagree then. You still believe we have the squad of three years ago, clearly we havn't
 
mosssideblue said:
Read it again. I said all the blame. Based on that , do you agree or is he 100% to blame?
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He's to blame for a lot. I think he must take blame for the way the team sets up, and he takes the blame for not changing tactics when we've been rumbled. He can't take the blame for players lack of effort, that's down to them. He can't take the blame for players being unable to finish (Sterling a few, and Aguero has missed a few, or the sitters v Villa away). He also can't take the blame for players not taking responsibility on the pitch - which has definitely happened this season in big games.

Ultimately though, he'll take the fall.
 
malg said:
He's to blame for a lot. I think he must take blame for the way the team sets up, and he takes the blame for not changing tactics when we've been rumbled. He can't take the blame for players lack of effort, that's down to them. He can't take the blame for players being unable to finish (Sterling a few, and Aguero has missed a few, or the sitters v Villa away). He also can't take the blame for players not taking responsibility on the pitch - which has definitely happened this season in big games.

Ultimately though, he'll take the fall.
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Spot on and ultimately he will take the fall, but my argument has always been that he is not fully responsible.
 
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