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squirtyflower said:citygal1 said:Langley in middleton, is a shit hole but its also a MANCHESTER overspill :P
to conclude paul scholes the ginger shite is a langley lad from langley, middleton, manchester.....m24 ;O)
i don't like using it but:
Middleton is a town within the Metropolitan Borough of Rochdale, in Greater Manchester, England.[1] It stands on the River Irk, 4.7 miles (7.6 km) south-southwest of Rochdale, and 5.1 miles (8.2 km) north-northeast of the city of Manchester. At the time of the United Kingdom Census 2001, Middleton had a population of 45,580.
Historically a part of Lancashire, Middleton took its name from being situated in the centre of several circumjacent settlements. Its early history is marked by its status as an ecclesiastical parish of the hundred of Salford, held successively by a series of notable ruling families. In 1770, Middleton was a village of 20 houses; during the 18th and 19th centuries it grew into a thiving and populous seat of textile manufacture, so much so that Middleton was granted borough status in 1886.
NOT Manchester
Hey im confused now and dont know one way or another but
Middleton today is a predominantly residential area of contrasting affluence; Langley in the north of the town was one of Manchester City Council's overspill public housing estates, whilst Alkrington in the south is a relatively affluent suburban area.[2]
and a minute ago you said that it depends which council you pay too. The above states langley is manchester city council and i seem to pay to manchester city council also. I understand you are saying its under rochdale borough, but its a town in itself its not rochdale. Its like Oldham is in greater manchester but you wouldnt say oldham is manchester cos its a town of its own.
squirtyflower said:depends who you pay you're council tax to, but middleton is a township in rochdalecitygal1 said:never ever have a had a letter saying, middleton, rochdale it says middleton manchester. because middleton doesnt have its own council it is split into two, rochdale council and manchester council. Ive lived in places that are under rochdale council in middleton, yet my mums house (in middleton) is undermanchester council. my postcode is M24!! meaning Manchester!!!! i worked in rochdale the postcode was OL!!!!
Langley is Manchester council, over the othe side of the road Hollins is Rochdale council, I think the centre is Rochdale too, Middleton is that shit no council wants full ownership.
Manchester built a number of overspill estates including, Langley, Hattersley, Partington and the Racecourse estate in Sale, so although they come under Manchester for some administrative purposes they are not within the City of Manchester.
Postcodes are a complete distraction, Altrincham has a Warrington postcode, Macclesfield has a Stockport one. They are merely codes for the post office.
Postcodes are a complete distraction, Altrincham has a Warrington postcode, Macclesfield has a Stockport one. They are merely codes for the post office.
Big G said:squirtyflower said:depends who you pay you're council tax to, but middleton is a township in rochdale
Langley is Manchester council, over the othe side of the road Hollins is Rochdale council, I think the centre is Rochdale too, Middleton is that shit no council wants full ownership.
this is what im saying, and this is where the confusion lies, what catagorises where a place is, if its not the postcode, the telephone code or the council then what is it? Middleton is shit but to be fair most of manchester is alot worse.
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citygal1 said:Middleton is in manchester, i live there, the post code is m24 and the telephone code is 0161, if it was rochdale it would be OL and the phone code would be 01706.
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Bury has a Bolton postcode. BL. Bury is not in Bolton.<br /><br />-- Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:03 pm --<br /><br />
citygal1 said:Middleton is in manchester, i live there, the post code is m24 and the telephone code is 0161, if it was rochdale it would be OL and the phone code would be 01706.
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Bury has a Bolton postcode. BL. Bury is not in Bolton.
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What determines the 'ownership' of a place is who you pay your Council Tax to. In the case of Middleton, the answer is Rochdale MBC, who you will find run the Middleton schools, empty the Middleton dustbins etc.
It's true that Langley Estate is/was owned by Manchester City Council, but that doesn't make it part of the City of Manchester. They own the properties but they don't get the Council tax.
It's simple really, all that's needed is to check the Council Tax demand. The one for Old Trafford goes to Trafford MBC for example. As does ours (and theirs) for the Carrington complexes.
It's true that Langley Estate is/was owned by Manchester City Council, but that doesn't make it part of the City of Manchester. They own the properties but they don't get the Council tax.
It's simple really, all that's needed is to check the Council Tax demand. The one for Old Trafford goes to Trafford MBC for example. As does ours (and theirs) for the Carrington complexes.
Soulboy said:citygal1 said:Middleton is in manchester, i live there, the post code is m24 and the telephone code is 0161, if it was rochdale it would be OL and the phone code would be 01706.
scholes is a dick anyway everyone round here knows it. apart from united fans and hangers on that think the sun shines outta his arse, but to say he isnt a manc is ridiculous and totally clutching at straws.
You clearly don't know where you live then!
The postcode is irrelevant... even the rags have a Manchester postcode!
Middleton is in Rochdale. Check your Community Charge statement... or ask your parents if need be.
Dont need to ask my parents im 27 years old, i live in middleton MANCHESTER. I pay my council tax to manchester council. And if im being as pedantic as you are then, middleton isnt IN rocdale its a just within rochdale borough, there is a border, hence the welcome to middleton, welcome to rochdale signs.
Paul scholes was the only MANC to play in the derby on sat, why does this bother people so much? ffs we really are clutching at straws, first the trafford thing and now this. soon u will have to live on deansgate to be called a manc.<br /><br />-- Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:37 pm --<br /><br />
BrianW said:What determines the 'ownership' of a place is who you pay your Council Tax to. In the case of Middleton, the answer is Rochdale MBC, who you will find run the Middleton schools, empty the Middleton dustbins etc.
It's true that Langley Estate is/was owned by Manchester City Council, but that doesn't make it part of the City of Manchester. They own the properties but they don't get the Council tax.
It's simple really, all that's needed is to check the Council Tax demand. The one for Old Trafford goes to Trafford MBC for example. As does ours (and theirs) for the Carrington complexes.
ahh cheers cleared things up a little, still dont understand why its split between two councils? its irrelevent anyway im bored of it now. better go support rochdale eh lol
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PrestwichPeteMcfc said:citygal1 said:Middleton is in manchester, i live there, the post code is m24 and the telephone code is 0161, if it was rochdale it would be OL and the phone code would be 01706.
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Bury has a Bolton postcode. BL. Bury is not in Bolton.
And Burnley's postcode is BB.
Try telling Burnley supporters they live in Blackburn!
citygal1 said:Soulboy said:You clearly don't know where you live then!
The postcode is irrelevant... even the rags have a Manchester postcode!
Middleton is in Rochdale. Check your Community Charge statement... or ask your parents if need be.
Dont need to ask my parents im 27 years old, i live in middleton MANCHESTER. I pay my council tax to manchester council. And if im being as pedantic as you are then, middleton isnt IN rocdale its a just within rochdale borough, there is a border, hence the welcome to middleton, welcome to rochdale signs.
Paul scholes was the only MANC to play in the derby on sat, why does this bother people so much? ffs we really are clutching at straws, first the trafford thing and now this. soon u will have to live on deansgate to be called a manc.
-- Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:37 pm --
BrianW said:What determines the 'ownership' of a place is who you pay your Council Tax to. In the case of Middleton, the answer is Rochdale MBC, who you will find run the Middleton schools, empty the Middleton dustbins etc.
It's true that Langley Estate is/was owned by Manchester City Council, but that doesn't make it part of the City of Manchester. They own the properties but they don't get the Council tax.
It's simple really, all that's needed is to check the Council Tax demand. The one for Old Trafford goes to Trafford MBC for example. As does ours (and theirs) for the Carrington complexes.
ahh cheers cleared things up a little, still dont understand why its split between two councils? its irrelevent anyway im bored of it now. better go support rochdale eh lol
Just exactly HOW is Paul Scholes a Manc?
He was born in Salford and brought up in the Oldham area.
The only link he has personally to Manchester is that he travels through it to get to Old Trafford... which is also not in Manchester!
;-))
Soulboy said:citygal1 said:Dont need to ask my parents im 27 years old, i live in middleton MANCHESTER. I pay my council tax to manchester council. And if im being as pedantic as you are then, middleton isnt IN rocdale its a just within rochdale borough, there is a border, hence the welcome to middleton, welcome to rochdale signs.
Paul scholes was the only MANC to play in the derby on sat, why does this bother people so much? ffs we really are clutching at straws, first the trafford thing and now this. soon u will have to live on deansgate to be called a manc.
-- Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:37 pm --
ahh cheers cleared things up a little, still dont understand why its split between two councils? its irrelevent anyway im bored of it now. better go support rochdale eh lol
Just exactly HOW is Paul Scholes a Manc?
He was born in Salford and brought up in the Oldham area.
The only link he has personally to Manchester is that he travels through it to get to Old Trafford... which is also not in Manchester!
;-))
hey i might be shite at geography (lol) but i do know paul scholes was brought up on langley. jesus his name gets thrown around way too much by fake tv rags round here for him not to be. Im bored too now i really dont care i sound like im a huge scholes fan which im not hes as much as a twat as the rest of the em.
Soulboy said:stony said:From Middleton isn't he. Which is technically in Greater Manchester. So he could legitimately be called a manc.
Going off the same logic, Wigan are going to change their name to Manchester Athletic.
Born in Salford.
Which isn't in Manchester.
And Middleton is in Rochdale. So you're even wrong with that one!
And Middleton is in Rochdale. So you're even wrong with that one!
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Only recently....
levets said:Soulboy said:Born in Salford.
Which isn't in Manchester.
And Middleton is in Rochdale. So you're even wrong with that one!
And Middleton is in Rochdale. So you're even wrong with that one!
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Only recently....
So Middleton IS in Rochdale..?
I didn't realise we were restricting it to specific timescales.
Saddleworth used to be in Yorkshire. But it is now in Lancashire.
I don't get your point...
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lloydie said:ps the niceties of Ottawa's geography are totally lost on me, sorry :)
Why not. Here you go. Ottawa covers all this land. The names in black are the names of villages, towns and Burroughs while the pink bits are the developed areas. The rest is all valleys and forests. God bless Canada and it's immensity.
For anyone who cares, Scotiabank Place is located in Kanata. That's teh home of the Ottawa Senators. Once we get our football team, (fingers crossed I wont be waiting 10 years), the Stadium will be right there as well.
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I had to put the link as the picture was too big to post :\
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We have a winner!Soulboy said:citygal1 said:Dont need to ask my parents im 27 years old, i live in middleton MANCHESTER. I pay my council tax to manchester council. And if im being as pedantic as you are then, middleton isnt IN rocdale its a just within rochdale borough, there is a border, hence the welcome to middleton, welcome to rochdale signs.
Paul scholes was the only MANC to play in the derby on sat, why does this bother people so much? ffs we really are clutching at straws, first the trafford thing and now this. soon u will have to live on deansgate to be called a manc.
-- Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:37 pm --
ahh cheers cleared things up a little, still dont understand why its split between two councils? its irrelevent anyway im bored of it now. better go support rochdale eh lol
Just exactly HOW is Paul Scholes a Manc?
He was born in Salford and brought up in the Oldham area.
The only link he has personally to Manchester is that he travels through it to get to Old Trafford... which is also not in Manchester!
;-))
stony said:Soulboy said:Born in Salford.
Which isn't in Manchester.
And Middleton is in Rochdale. So you're even wrong with that one!
Rochdale was in Greater Manchester the last time I looked. Or do the maps in your house have different boundaries on them. Are they special maps ? Where can I get one from ?
Or is it just that in your haste to have a pop you ended up looking like a twat ?
In local government terms, Middleton is Rochdale. I used to work for the council and so I know these things.