Seventy seven pages on this thread, I don't believe it. We're third, people, third, level on points with second, in the FA cup the last time I looked, and still in the CL, last time I looked. When we're out of the Cup, out of the Champions League, and out of top four, maybe, just maybe, start calling the most successful manager in the world a clown (in fact, no, don't, under any circumstances). He's doing a long term building job that has desperately needed doing for the past two seasons. We dropped two points to Stoke. That kind of thing will happen,from time to time. It's called shit happening, and did I mention that with that (and yes with Boro, and Everton, and Southampton), we're still third, so we (and Guardiola) must have doing something right at some point. We move on - bring on Boro and the Cup.