Sturgeon wants another referendum

ayrshire_blue said:
I'm not going to get too deep into the financial debate on here. It's not my main factor when deciding which way to vote. It's more personal in that no matter how wealthy or poor we become, I'd like to see us govern ourselves and not London do it for us. That's it.

On the first part of your statement, surely you can see the difference between Scottish independence from Westminster and the far right UKIP loving looney's I'm on about? It's two completely different types of nationalism - if you can call it that.
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I actually get what you are saying with regards to not being ruled or governed from London. If I were a Scot I would on balance at least consider voting to leave the UK if it meant no more Thatchers, Blairs or Camerons. To be truly independent if that is in anyway achievable and sustainable would surely be very tempting?

A vote to leave the UK in this instance is a vote that will likely lead to becoming an EU member. This will be further from independence than being a part of the UK ever would be.
 
pee dubya said:
I'm not having that, it's a brilliant place to live.
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Everyone to there own, don't get me wrong I love travelling around Scotland we have had some good holidays along the Fife coast, but haven't come across anywhere in the UK with roads and pavements in such bad condition as around byers & great western road and the beers shit
 
Go on Nic, do us all a favour. Throw the vote open to all the U.K. I dare you. Then we can all tell you to take your miserable, basket case, rain sodden, whinging shithole of a half arsed country away once and for all. Oh, and don't forget to take all the hundreds of thousands of your countrymen who are earning their living down here with you, leaving their British passports here of course. Try feeding that fucking lot. Don't forget to close Rosyth on the way, we'll have them jobs and skills down here. Bye Nic.
 
can we northerners join you, draw a line from wollaston to boston across england and suceed from the south? ;-)

I think the european union will offer no help to scotland if they go down this route at present, they have no interest and the calls from places like catalonia if the scots were sucessful will cause them no end of hassle.

But at the same time May is a fucking clown who will kill this country off with her present narrowmindedness.
 
bucks said:
Go on Nic, do us all a favour. Throw the vote open to all the U.K. I dare you. Then we can all tell you to take your miserable, basket case, rain sodden, whinging shithole of a half arsed country away once and for all. Oh, and don't forget to take all the hundreds of thousands of your countrymen who are earning their living down here with you, leaving their British passports here of course. Try feeding that fucking lot. Don't forget to close Rosyth on the way, we'll have them jobs and skills down here. Bye Nic.
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I like the cut of your jib, magnificent
 
ayrshire_blue said:
I'm not going to get too deep into the financial debate on here. It's not my main factor when deciding which way to vote. It's more personal in that no matter how wealthy or poor we become, I'd like to see us govern ourselves and not London do it for us. That's it.

On the first part of your statement, surely you can see the difference between Scottish independence from Westminster and the far right UKIP loving looney's I'm on about? It's two completely different types of nationalism - if you can call it that.
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Which is a principled stance to take. The fact that you will immediately be poorer, be stripped of the Barnett formula,
which massively props up a system which indulges socialist largesse, funded by us down south, who don't get the freebees you have
awarded yourselves, makes your excitement at the prospect of a break from the UK all the more exciting for us here.
I really, truly, deeply hope your wishes are realised, I would love that the whole of the UK participates in this second referendum,
then I can guarantee you would be free of this fascist state that keeps your country so downtrodden.
Scotland the Brave!
 
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denislawsbackheel said:
Oil crash?
I was talking to an Aberdonian on Saturday who assures me some rigs are being RE- commissioned.
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I deal with Oil men every day.

Oil crash sounds about right. It's less than 40% of the value it was just over two years ago.

What would you call it?

(Maybe call your mate in Aberdeen and ask him)
 
bucks said:
Go on Nic, do us all a favour. Throw the vote open to all the U.K. I dare you. Then we can all tell you to take your miserable, basket case, rain sodden, whinging shithole of a half arsed country away once and for all. Oh, and don't forget to take all the hundreds of thousands of your countrymen who are earning their living down here with you, leaving their British passports here of course. Try feeding that fucking lot. Don't forget to close Rosyth on the way, we'll have them jobs and skills down here. Bye Nic.
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*applauds*
 
frothy said:
Everyone to there own, don't get me wrong I love travelling around Scotland we have had some good holidays along the Fife coast, but haven't come across anywhere in the UK with roads and pavements in such bad condition as around byers & great western road and the beers shit
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I'll give you the roads, although they're in the middle of a big resurfacing project at the moment. The rest is great, and i don't need to say that because i'm not from here originally.

Oh, apart from the weather obviously.
 
once again an elected person representing fewer people than in the North West of England is attempting to wave her teeny weeny stick - fuck off Jimmy Kranky

you missed your once in a lifetime - you dont get a second chance because of another vote that didn't go your way
 
pee dubya said:
I'm not having that, it's a brilliant place to live.
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Yes they like it, they both went to uni in Scotland my daughter in Edinburgh and him in Glasgow both English he did Scottish law so he is a bit restricted to where he can practice, my daughter is a journalist for all city fans favourite TV station so she would get relocated to Manchester if they wanted to come back (think she does) hope they do one day
 
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