Sturridge MOTD 2...

[Motty]

Think Sturridge can become the star at Liverpool that we hoped he'd be for us, and in the end nail a regular spot in England starting XI. He's playing almost every week, in a team which plays a nice brand of football and a manager who is clearly fond of nurturing the younger players. Could maybe even push Rooney close for the tag of being England's best striker.

I don't have the stats to hand but I'm pretty sure Sturridge and Evans played a similar amount of minutes during the 08-09 season so that's that myth debunked.

Besides, it's already been correctly pointed out by Marvin that if anyone was keeping Sturridge out of the side it was Robinho as they are both left-sided forwards whereas Evans isn't. And Robinho was always going to be favoured over Sturridge, considering how high profile a signing he was.

If they played a simlar amount of minutes then he must have been picking Evans ahead of him 50% of the time.

Well done. And it also means he was picking Sturridge over Evans 50% of the time so it hardly equates to him favouring Evans.

Yes, but as that season went on it was becoming more and more obvious that Sturridge was going to be a lot better than Evans, yet half the time he still picked Evans instead when Sturridge was looking much more promising than he was.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Think Sturridge can become the star at Liverpool that we hoped he'd be for us, and in the end nail a regular spot in England starting XI. He's playing almost every week, in a team which plays a nice brand of football and a manager who is clearly fond of nurturing the younger players. Could maybe even push Rooney close for the tag of being England's best striker.

If they played a simlar amount of minutes then he must have been picking Evans ahead of him 50% of the time.

Well done. And it also means he was picking Sturridge over Evans 50% of the time so it hardly equates to him favouring Evans.

Yes, but as that season went on it was becoming more and more obvious that Sturridge was going to be a lot better than Evans, yet half the time he still picked Evans instead when Sturridge was looking much more promising than he was.

Exactly. If Mancini started picked Kolo ahead of Kompany for a few matches when both were fit, I don't think most would be saying, "well that's fine, he picks VK more so he's not favouring Kolo." They would just be saying, "why the fuck is he picking Kolo ahead of VK."

 

[M18CTID]

Think Sturridge can become the star at Liverpool that we hoped he'd be for us, and in the end nail a regular spot in England starting XI. He's playing almost every week, in a team which plays a nice brand of football and a manager who is clearly fond of nurturing the younger players. Could maybe even push Rooney close for the tag of being England's best striker.

Well done. And it also means he was picking Sturridge over Evans 50% of the time so it hardly equates to him favouring Evans.

Yes, but as that season went on it was becoming more and more obvious that Sturridge was going to be a lot better than Evans, yet half the time he still picked Evans instead when Sturridge was looking much more promising than he was.

Exactly. If Mancini started picked Kolo ahead of Kompany for a few matches when both were
fit, I don't think most would be saying, "well that's fine, he picks VK more so he's not favouring Kolo." They would just be saying, "why the fuck is he picking Kolo ahead of VK."

That's a silly analogy. Anyway, look back at the team line-ups post-Christmas 2008. They only got something like 1 start between them (Evans at Aalborg away and Sturridge wasn't even in the squad for that one), and had a relatively equal number of sub appearances each so it's complete bollocks that Evans was favoured over Sturridge in the second half of that season. Fact is, they both saw less action in those last 4 or 5 months due to Caicedo hitting a bit of form and Bellamy being signed in the January transfer window.

If you seriously believe that Ched Evans is the main reason Sturridge left City then you're utterly deluded.

Edit - Sturridge also got a start when we lost at home to Forest in the FA Cup.

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Think Sturridge can become the star at Liverpool that we hoped he'd be for us, and in the end nail a regular spot in England starting XI. He's playing almost every week, in a team which plays a nice brand of football and a manager who is clearly fond of nurturing the younger players. Could maybe even push Rooney close for the tag of being England's best striker.

If they played a simlar amount of minutes then he must have been picking Evans ahead of him 50% of the time.

Well done. And it also means he was picking Sturridge over Evans 50% of the time so it hardly equates to him favouring Evans.

Yes, but as that season went on it was becoming more and more obvious that Sturridge was going to be a lot better than Evans, yet half the time he still picked Evans instead when Sturridge was looking much more promising than he was.

Half the time? Evans got one start in the second half of that season. Christ, there's some right revisionist crap posted on this forum.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Think Sturridge can become the star at Liverpool that we hoped he'd be for us, and in the end nail a regular spot in England starting XI. He's playing almost every week, in a team which plays a nice brand of football and a manager who is clearly fond of nurturing the younger players. Could maybe even push Rooney close for the tag of being England's best striker.



Yes, but as that season went on it was becoming more and more obvious that Sturridge was going to be a lot better than Evans, yet half the time he still picked Evans instead when Sturridge was looking much more promising than he was.

Exactly. If Mancini started picked Kolo ahead of Kompany for a few matches when both were fit, I don't think most would be saying, "well that's fine, he picks VK more so he's not favouring Kolo." They would just be saying, "why the fuck is he picking Kolo ahead of VK."

That's a silly analogy. Anyway, look back at the team line-ups post-Christmas 2008. They only got something like 1 start between them (Evans at Aalborg away and Sturridge wasn't even in the squad for that one), and had a relatively equal number of sub appearances each so it's complete bollocks that Evans was favoured over Sturridge in the second half of that season. Fact is, they both saw less action in those last 4 or 5 months due to Caicedo hitting a bit of form and Bellamy being signed in the January transfer window.

If you seriously believe that Ched Evans is the main reason Sturridge left City then you're utterly deluded.

I don't think I have ever said that Ched Evans is the main reason Sturridge left City. I think you're right though, that was a silly analogy, the difference in ability between VK and Kolo is smaller than the difference between Ched Evans and Sturridge. I should have made the analogy VK and Savic last season.

 

[BlueHalli]

Really disappointed our fans booed him . We sounded like arsenal fans ! . The guy wanted a contract and we didnt give it him . It may have been ott at the time and ill admit I never really took to him but it didnt warrent us booing him . Two players have shown our club respect in the past few days and I think that's great .

 

[M18CTID]

Exactly. If Mancini started picked Kolo ahead of Kompany for a few matches when both were fit, I don't think most would be saying, "well that's fine, he picks VK more so he's not favouring Kolo." They would just be saying, "why the fuck is he picking Kolo ahead of VK."

That's a silly analogy. Anyway, look back at the team line-ups post-Christmas 2008. They only
got something like 1 start between them (Evans at Aalborg away and Sturridge wasn't even in the squad for that one), and had a relatively equal number of sub appearances each so it's complete bollocks that Evans was favoured over Sturridge in the second half of that season. Fact is, they both saw less action in those last 4 or 5 months due to Caicedo hitting a bit of form and Bellamy being signed in the January transfer window.

If you seriously believe that Ched Evans is the main reason Sturridge left City then you're utterly deluded.

I don't think I have ever said that Ched Evans is the main reason Sturridge left City. I think you're right though, that was a silly analogy, the difference in ability between VK and Kolo is smaller than the difference between Ched Evans and Sturridge. I should have made the analogy VK and Savic last season.

Instead of being so facetious, why don't you address the myth that Evans got loads more starts than Sturridge in the second half of the 08-09 season because upon further examination I've just discovered that Sturridge started the Hamburg away game and Evans was an unused sub so that's 2 starts for Sturridge vs 1 for Evans.

You'd be better off moaning that Caicedo was keeping him out of the team rather than Evans because at least there's some statistical evidence that would go some way to backing that up.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

That's a silly analogy. Anyway, look back at the team line-ups post-Christmas 2008. They only
got something like 1 start between them (Evans at Aalborg away and Sturridge wasn't even in the squad for that one), and had a relatively equal number of sub appearances each so it's complete bollocks that Evans was favoured over Sturridge in the second half of that season. Fact is, they both saw less action in those last 4 or 5 months due to Caicedo hitting a bit of form and Bellamy being signed in the January transfer window.

If you seriously believe that Ched Evans is the main reason Sturridge left City then you're utterly deluded.

I don't think I have ever said that Ched Evans is the main reason Sturridge left City. I think you're right though, that was a silly analogy, the difference in ability between VK and Kolo is smaller than the difference between Ched Evans and Sturridge. I should have made the analogy VK and Savic last season.

Instead of being so facetious, why don't you address the myth that Evans got loads more starts than Sturridge in the second half of the 08-09 season because upon further examination I've just discovered that Sturridge started the Hamburg away game and Evans was an unused sub so that's 2 starts for Sturridge vs 1 for Evans.

You'd be better off moaning that Caicedo was keeping him out of the team rather than Evans because at least there's some statistical evidence that would go some way to backing that up.

So 33% of the time Evans was picked ahead of Sturridge despite being nowhere near as good as him? It's no wonder he left. To be honest, I don't necessarily think Evans had anything to do with it. I was just playing devil's advocate/deliberately being a twat.