Suella Braverman - sacked as Home Secretary (p394)

[SkyBlueFlux]

That's not true as you can see from the below. Plenty of Remainers held racist attitudes as well. Not as big a percentage as Leave voters but a significant number nonetheless:

"Brits who voted Leave in the EU referendum are more likely to describe themselves as "racially prejudiced" than those who voted Remain, according to new research.

A survey of 2,220 people found that 34% of Leave voters admitted holding racist attitudes compared to 18% of Remain voters.

The study, conducted by the National Centre for Social Research, found 26% of Britons still described themselves as "very" or "a little" prejudiced towards people of other races."

Self-reporting on this kind of thing is really contentious because people hold themselves to very different standards.

Some people could be goose-stepping around all day engaging in the most obviously racist behaviour you will see and yet will claim they’re not racist. They’ll say “it’s just my sense of humour” or something like that.

Others will chastise themselves relentlessly for feeling slightly nervous when talking to a woman wearing a burqa. Some people think they are subconsciously racist by virtue of their upbringing and there’s nothing they can do about it no matter how well they treat other people.

Basically any survey constructed this way is of very limited value.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Self-reporting on this kind of thing is really contentious because people hold themselves to very different standards.

Some people could be goose-stepping around all day engaging in the most obviously racist behaviour you will see and yet will claim they’re not racist. They’ll say “it’s just my sense of humour” or something like that.

Others will chastise themselves relentlessly for feeling slightly nervous when talking to a woman wearing a burqa. Some people think they are subconsciously racist by virtue of their upbringing and there’s nothing they can do about it no matter how well they treat other people.

Basically any survey constructed this way is of very limited value.

How often do you have a conversation with someone in a burqa? I assume you mean Niqab as Burqa is the garment that covers the whole face with a mesh, seen in Afghanistan.

They have gendered segregation, so they wouldn't talk to males they aren't related or married to unless it was unavoidable e.g passport control at airports or shopping.

 

[BrianW]

Funny, I used to work in the same organisation as a woman who wore a niqab. Not only did she talk to me, she actually hugged me on one occasion as a sign of friendship. (I must admit I was taken aback, but that was my prejudice)

Well over 90% of Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Atheists just want to live their lives in peace, enjoy their hobbies and their families, celebrate their festivals, fall in love, marry, have kids and die in their beds.

It's always the minority of extremists and bigots who are the problem. The people who want everyone to be exactly like them, think like them, whatever. I know it's more challenging to live in a mixed society than one where everyone is C of E and white, but that's what we have. We either make it work or we have endless conflict and hatred.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

How often do you have a conversation with someone in a burqa? I assume you mean Niqab as Burqa is the garment that covers the whole face with a mesh, seen in Afghanistan.

They have gendered segregation, so they wouldn't talk to males they aren't related or married to unless it was unavoidable e.g passport control at airports or shopping.

Yes indeed you’re right, I should have said niqab. I’m just demonstrating the kind of brazen ignorance of other cultures that would lead to me convincing myself that I’m racist in the aforementioned survey.

 

[hilts]

Very true that.

Except its not. A remain lie tut tut.

 

[argyle]

So when a conservative, does a conservative thing, they get flinged out. Makes me laugh when people opine how right wing of a government they are.

They are.

You're so far the right (though you will deny it) that you wouldn't think so.

She did what a BNP/NF/EDL supported would do.

 

[Ducado]

What’s quite unforgivable was her dog whistle to the EDL thugs, and she has quite rightly been sacked she knew what she was doing the question is why? She has no support base on the right, the only thing I can think is that she is just a gobshite and there was no motive

 

[mosssideblue]

No doubt she will receive a hefty severance pay out

 

[Aphex]

You think it's the job of a conservative home secretary to confect a public feud with the Met police and incite a baying mob to start kicking off at the Cenotaph on armistice Day?

Admit it, you're just annoyed cos she a bit fash and you like that.

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying if she is unpalatable for the Tories, it kind of makes the right wing evil party moniker kind of moot.

 

[Aphex]

They are.

You're so far the right (though you will deny it) that you wouldn't think so.

She did what a BNP/NF/EDL supported would do.

Haha. I'm not far right at all. I'm just not partisan. Are you far left?