Suella Braverman - sacked as Home Secretary (p394)

[Cricket Blue]

Some of the language on here is disgraceful, c words, f words. Very sad

 

[west didsblue]

Some of the language on here is disgraceful, c words, f words. Very sad

Considering that Braverman is a fucking **** I’d say those words have been used surprisingly sparingly on this thread.

 

[Cricket Blue]

Considering that Braverman is a fucking **** I’d say those words have been used surprisingly sparingly on this thread.

Just other ways to present an argument but hey carry on

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

For the avoidance of confusion to all those who think that somehow refugee's enter the UK illegally - we are signatories to the 1951 convention - these are the relevant sections

ARTICLE 3. NON-DISCRIMINATION The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refugees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

ARTICLE 31. REFUGEES UNLAWFULLY IN THE COUNTRY OF REFUGE 1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of Article

1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
2. The Contracting States shall not apply to the movements of such refugees restrictions other than those which are necessary and such restrictions shall only be applied until their status in the country is regularized or they obtain admission into another country. The Contracting States shall allow such refugees a reasonable period and all the necessary facilities to obtain admission into another country.

If anyone wants the whole document is here

https://www.unhcr.org/4ca34be29.pdf

Is the problem the use of language (here). We seem to use refugee / asylum seeker randomly and interchangeably. Both I think may arrive through non official channels but may have a very different legal status. I stress legal status as that should at least also be distinct from the moral argument.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Mark Harper - spreading the usual lies

 

[andyhinch]

Just other ways to present an argument but hey carry on

Surely you would want to use the words that best describe her within your argument ? Would absolute fucking thundercunt be more appropriate ?

 

[Cricket Blue]

Surely you would want to use the words that best describe her within your argument ? Would absolute fucking thundercunt be more appropriate ?

I've never heard of that word

 

[andyhinch]

I've never heard of that word

Every days a school day :-)

 

[west didsblue]

It's designed to polarise the public and divide us into two baying mobs throwing insults at each other, getting more entrenched in our views and shutting down actual debate - just like brexit did. Have a look at the way this thread is going in the last 24 hrs to see the process working.

Half agree with you.
It's designed to create just one baying mob who don't need much convincing that the terrible state of the country is down to a few thousand people arriving on a rubber dinghy into a country with a population of 68 million. The rest of us want a competent government to put a system in place that can efficiently deal with immigration and asylum in a manner that allows the persecuted and those that qualify to stay and quickly deports the chancers and criminals, rather than locking them all up together in squalid conditions whilst blaming the system for which they have been responsible for the last 12 years.

 

[Mon Autre]

Some of the language on here is disgraceful, c words, f words. Very sad

I'd say the bigotry and the racism present in the thread are more disgraceful than a few cuss words.