law74
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You continue to support the most vile, corrupt, inept government in living memory, if not our history, despite overwhelming evidence of the corruption, so easy to understand those who think that you are dim.
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Chippy_boy
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Wrong on many counts. FFS I am here on the "let's slag Suella Braverman" thread, slagging her off (and our PM) myself!You continue to support the most vile, corrupt, inept government in living memory, if not our history, despite overwhelming evidence of the corruption, so easy to understand those who think that you are dim.
And regards your comments, of course the government is not the best we've had (understatement) but your level of vitriol simply demonstrates how utterly brainwashed you have become by surrounding yourself only with people echoing and amplifying your views into this frenzy of hyperbole. Anyone would think we're living in North Korea, listening to some of you lot.
I'll tell you what dim is. Dim is thinking that any government can deal with 400 billion of unbudgeted spend on COVID support, worldwide sky high (by recent measures) interest rates and energy costs, and keep everything in the garden just roses without issues. That's what dim is.
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Ducado
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There are some political commentators saying that this whole situation is just another battle in the ongoing Tory civil war, I think civil war is a bit simplistic, Braverman is going for the UKIP vote, and since UKIP took over the party it’s not a bad shout, Sunak is Cummings man, basically he’s just a stuffed shirt doing as he’s told, and then there is the BJ faction who are stirring up trouble on the sidelines
They are imploding and it’s a sight to behold
They are imploding and it’s a sight to behold
Chippy_boy
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One swallow does not a summer make. The plain fact remains the debate on these forums is VERY heavily left-leaning and biased in its perspectives. If the audience on this forum was representative of the general public (a) Labour would be in power now and (b) Labour would win a landslide victory at the next election. (a) is obviously not true and actually I doubt (b) is either. They will likely be the largest party, and possibly have a small majority but I suspect that's the limit of it, we shall see.I replied to you and I’m not a “leftie”. I’ve voted for all the parties. I simply comment sometimes on the most incompetent government in my lifetime, not by a bit, but by a million miles, which is what I did to you attempting to whitewash their disgrace.
The use of the infantile “lefty” and “woke” to anyone who happens to disagrees with the hard right politics of hate and division, in leu of a counter argument, has become one of the most popular tools of these political incompetents, by the way. You are not in good company.
A lot of rational people are angry at what these people have done over the last few years and so should you be. These are not normal times any more. This government have defiled UK politics and damaged us all, economically and culturally, and I have zero sympathy or empathy for anyone who enables or excuses this, however subtly. That doesn’t make me a fucking “leftie”.
And never have I suggested that the government is perfect and that all criticisms are simply because people are left leaning. It is disingenuous to suggest I have even implied so. Merely that the left-centred lens of a right wing Tory government is perhaps a distinctly different perspective than a neutral or right-oriented one.
west didsblue
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It’s pretty much all you do and it’s boring as fuck.and that all criticisms are simply because people are left leaning. It is disingenuous to suggest I have even implied so.
Ducado
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I think this forum is quite representative of the general public, you won’t see it because your world is different but there you goOne swallow does not a summer make. The plain fact remains the debate on these forums is VERY heavily left-leaning and biased in its perspectives. If the audience on this forum was representative of the general public (a) Labour would be in power now and (b) Labour would win a landslide victory at the next election. (a) is obviously not true and actually I doubt (b) is either. They will likely be the largest party, and possibly have a small majority but I suspect that's the limit of it, we shall see.
And never have I suggested that the government is perfect and that all criticisms are simply because people are left leaning. It is disingenuous to suggest I have even implied so. Merely that the left-centred lens of a right wing Tory government is perhaps a distinctly different perspective than a neutral or right-oriented one.
67, 70, 77Well I would be pretty damned dim to think I could fool people into thinking the UK population was 10m higher than it actually is, by simply posting 77m not 67m, wouldn't I. And I am not particularly dim. FFS everyone knows what the UK population is. Dear God use your noggin for once.
The point was you posted this nonsense to justify Johnson's behaviour: "in fact 70m people flouted the lockdown rules anyway, the steaming hypocrites". Just admit that 90% of people didn't flout the rules and you can do something useful for the rest of the day.
So 400bn eh? How have they added another trillion to the national debt?Wrong on many counts. FFS I am here on the "let's slag Suella Braverman" thread, slagging her off (and our PM) myself!
And regards your comments, of course the government is not the best we've had (understatement) but your level of vitriol simply demonstrates how utterly brainwashed you have become by surrounding yourself only with people echoing and amplifying your views into this frenzy of hyperbole. Anyone would think we're living in North Korea, listening to some of you lot.
I'll tell you what dim is. Dim is thinking that any government can deal with 400 billion of unbudgeted spend on COVID support, worldwide sky high (by recent measures) interest rates and energy costs, and keep everything in the garden just roses without issues. That's what dim is.
East Level 2
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Europe, Covid and Ukraine would probably be the three excuses they come up with. I'd go for sheer incompetence and Brexit.Besides, if you're in charge of the country for 13 years and run out of money, whose fault is that?
jim tolmies perm
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I must admit to chuckling at the term "Gammon" thoughI replied to you and I’m not a “leftie”. I’ve voted for all the parties. I simply comment sometimes on the most incompetent government in my lifetime, not by a bit, but by a million miles, which is what I did to you attempting to whitewash their disgrace.
The use of the infantile “lefty” and “woke” to anyone who happens to disagrees with the hard right politics of hate and division, in leu of a counter argument, has become one of the most popular tools of these political incompetents, by the way. You are not in good company.
A lot of rational people are angry at what these people have done over the last few years and so should you be. These are not normal times any more. This government have defiled UK politics and damaged us all, economically and culturally, and I have zero sympathy or empathy for anyone who enables or excuses this, however subtly. That doesn’t make me a fucking “leftie”.
Yes very puerile of me I know ;)