suicide

[Why Always Ste]

I'm not into New Age stuff but if ever a place had a 'healing aura' then that was it.

Great comment fella.

When I went over to Thailand. just being around so many perceptibly happy people and a nicer environment changed my outlook on life so much.
Educated me far more just being around different people than any textbook ever did.

 

[johnny on the spot]

did i say "so should everyone else" it was merely a good story of someone who was in a bad place and things worked out, there were one or two posters saying they've been down in the dumps and i was only trying to help.

but forget it now. you seem to know better, everyone kill themselves!

I'm glad for people whose problems work out quickly. I really am. But suicide isn't about those people, so your glib anecdote was mere collateral.

 

[Anonymous]

did i say "so should everyone else" it was merely a good story of someone who was in a bad place and things worked out, there were one or two posters saying they've been down in the dumps and i was only trying to help.

but forget it now. you seem to know better, everyone kill themselves!

I'm glad for people whose problems work out quickly. I really am. But suicide isn't about those people, so your glib anecdote was mere collateral.

fuck me i was only trying to put a bit of positivity in, i'm a firm believer in suicide being a terrible struggle and i do not believe it's selfish.

as you will see with my first post.

 

[johnny on the spot]

fuck me i was only trying to put a bit of positivity in, i'm a firm believer in suicide being a terrible struggle and i do not believe it's selfish.

as you will see with my first post.

No sweat mate :)

 

[80s Shorts]

i have no idea what your post means.

It makes as much sense as yours did. 'This girl at work went through some shit and she pulled through fine. So should everyone else'.

'Mutability is our tragedy but also our hope'. Weak philosophy.

did i say "so should everyone else" it was merely a good story of someone who was in a bad place and things worked out, there were one or two posters saying they've been down in the dumps and i was only trying to help.

but forget it now. you seem to know better, everyone kill themselves!

TBH "down in the dumps" is really not what we are talking about.

Clinical depression is not "the blues", feeling "pissed off" or any number of silly descriptions.

If you have been truly clinically depressed and have managed to come through the other side then you would have some empathy.

 

[warpig]

to people like sweynforkbeard, et al who have replied with personal stories, thank you. you have offered a great insight/you have my total respect. for what its worth, which may not be a lot, i think you are very courageous people.

 

[Anonymous]

It makes as much sense as yours did. 'This girl at work went through some shit and she pulled through fine. So should everyone else'.

'Mutability is our tragedy but also our hope'. Weak philosophy.

did i say "so should everyone else" it was merely a good story of someone who was in a bad place and things worked out, there were one or two posters saying they've been down in the dumps and i was only trying to help.

but forget it now. you seem to know better, everyone kill themselves!

TBH "down in the dumps" is really not what we are talking about.

Clinical depression is not "the blues", feeling "pissed off" or any number of silly descriptions.

If you have been truly clinically depressed and have managed to come through the other side then you would have some empathy.

i understand and agree, wrong phrasing on my part.

people with clinical depression might not have anything, someone like myself would class as "wrong" in their lives, but they view everything as being wrong.

i truly feel for people who are depressed. i've nearly been there myself.

 

[mcmanus]

My ex wifes father hanged himself when she was 9 - it was my ex wife bringing her younger brothers and sisters home from school who found him. Obviously very traumatic. A mate who I went to football with a lot killed himself by feeding exhaust fumes into his car in Delamere forest - he suffered from Chrohn's disease and left a note saying he didn't want to become a burden to his parents and girlfriend. I've suffered from deep depression in episodes in the past and admit it has crossed my mind. During the very painful break up of my 30 year marriage I did consider it a few times - I didn't work for nearly a year and some weeks barely left the house. I only got up some days because my cat was asking to be fed - laugh all you want but she is one of the things that pulled me through, plus City, going to the matches meant so much, my local where I have such good friends and the city of Prague - my mates found a place for me on an already organised trip and it opened up a new outlook on life. I'm not into New Age stuff but if ever a place had a 'healing aura' then that was it. I've been prescribed three or four types of anti-depressant they have all made me feel worse so I stopped taking them - talking therapy has helped but most of all it's what I've listed above that. Yes to some extent it's selfish but please don't make light of the extremis people can find themselves in - just hope that nothing so bad awaits in your life that will take you to such despair.

Jeez Sweyn it can hit anyone pal. I take it you're above average intelligent and/or bonkers but I'm chuffed to fuck you can now control it.

 

[Mr Rich]

I can see it happening. I know that a lot of life is about keeping going, having something to live for (take sweynforkbeard story for example), it's all about having that person/job/animal/team. As silly as that sounds it's what gets you up in the morning. Many people can get depressed because they feel they have nobody who really cares if they are alive or not. What I'd like to always say to those people is just keep going, and realise that people actually do care, even if they can't always show it. Every action has a reaction.

 

[Anonymous]

Complete selfishness in my eyes, if they cared for anyone around them, and how much they'd hurt them, they wouldn't do it.

I agree with this to a degree, but they mustn't be thinking about others at that time and yes that's a little selfish, what is a huge problem to some people may not be that big a deal to others, some time ago I lost my son and my dad within a few weeks of each other and the thought of killing myself did cross my mind, the pain was unbearable, but I had other children and my Mother to think about so those thoughts quickly disappeared.

I will add my heart goes out to those who can't get beyond whatever their troubles are and especially the ones left to pick up the pieces .