Manchester_lalala
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Van dijk would be our best signing if we can pull it off this summer. He's a beast, probably captain material too.
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Van dijk would be our best signing if we can pull it off this summer. He's a beast, probably captain material too.
citizens_1976
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Van dijk would be our best signing if we can pull it off this summer. He's a beast, probably captain material too.
Yeah, he ticks all the boxes of what we are looking for from what we have seen, reads a game well also.
BongoCityzen
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IN:
Isco 20m
Kolasinac 0m
Mendy/Bertrand 30m
Fabinho 30m
Ederson 35m
Bonucci 45m
Sanchez 45m
Total: 205m
Out:
Hart 15m
Nasri 15m
Bony 10m
Mangala 10m
Delph 10m
Denayer 10m
Nolito 10m
Mooy 10m
Total: 90m
Net Spend 115m
Isco 20m
Kolasinac 0m
Mendy/Bertrand 30m
Fabinho 30m
Ederson 35m
Bonucci 45m
Sanchez 45m
Total: 205m
Out:
Hart 15m
Nasri 15m
Bony 10m
Mangala 10m
Delph 10m
Denayer 10m
Nolito 10m
Mooy 10m
Total: 90m
Net Spend 115m
I don't believe in this. It is just ssomething people say and they convince themselves to believe it. Barcelona won predominantly because of Messi, Zavi and Iniesta or Messi, Ronaldihno and Eto and Real because of Ronaldo, Bale and sure Ramos but not because of his leadership on defense. Talent is what wins titles. Period. But I know people often feel otherwise. But I respectfully disagree.You can have ball playing centre backs all day every day, but if a team lacks real leadership at the back, then as a club you will never win titles. Barcelona had that with Puyol, Real Madrid have that with Ramos, Bayern have that with Boateng and Hummels.
As a side note who is Chelsea's leader at the back? Luis? Cahill? Azpiculetta?
I think Kolarov has been a top 5 LCB in the league. So claims that he lacks concentration are really vestiges of his history rather than a true analysis of his performance at CB. Stones hasn't play has oscillate from great games early on a down period and of late he is back on the upswing. That said, he is obviously the true leader of the team. And will ask me the position in totality next season. Otamendi is a top 5 CB with a penchant for howlers every now and then.City lack a leader at the back, they lack assurance and it is clear to see when we play against direct teams who like to hit us on the break at speed, we are all at sea and the communication and organisation is all over the place. Kolarov lacks concentration, Stones is too nice and needs to toughen up and start growing into a leader at this club and Otamendi is on the floor diving in more than the grass itself. For me, we need a commander at the back to provide that presence and that assurance for other players to look up to. Its all well and good having pretty footballers, but you need character and real grit to fight towards titles every other season.
I agree Van Dijk would be an upgrade. I think he is the best CB in the league and probably better than all our CBs. So I probably wouldn't object. But its nor a necessity. Its like Messi to me. Sure I'll take him, but we don't necessarily need him.I feel Bonucci and Van Dijk would provide that for us. Bonucci for his experience and composure, Van Dijk for his commanding and imposing physical presence.
Jazzman
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Is that a bit short on centerbacks there?At the start of next season, if this is the squad we have, ill be more than pleased.
Attack
Sterling, 23, Sane 21, Coman 21, Jesus 20
Midfield:
Dihno 32, Silva 31, Gundogan 26, Debryune 26, Isco 25, Dahood 21, Garcia 20
Defense
Kolarov 31, Otamendi 29, Fabihno 23, Stones 22, Grimaldo 21, Heinrich 20, Maffeo 19,
Goalie
Bravo 34, Ederson 23, Gunn 21
16 foreign players plus 4 English players. And supplement with the youth team
BlueCityfan
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At the start of next season, if this is the squad we have, ill be more than pleased.
Attack
Sterling, 23, Sane 21, Coman 21, Jesus 20
Midfield:
Dihno 32, Silva 31, Gundogan 26, Debryune 26, Isco 25, Dahood 21, Garcia 20
Defense
Kolarov 31, Otamendi 29, Fabihno 23, Stones 22, Grimaldo 21, Heinrich 20, Maffeo 19,
Goalie
Bravo 34, Ederson 23, Gunn 21
16 foreign players plus 4 English players. And supplement with the youth team
Lacks at least one top quality CB. Probably Laporte.
Also not sure Fabinho would come here to convert back into a defender. Maybe as a back-up. But he is primarily a midfielder. Way too productive in midfield to convert into a defender full-time.
If we sign Fabinho and Dahoud. Not sure where you would find the space for Isco.
And that attack covers the wings very well. But lacks another quality striker.
Won't say so. 3 with Dihno, an Fabihno deputizing as needed.Is that a bit short on centerbacks there?
Admittedly we could always add 1 more. Van Dijk if we are going the expensive route or Vlad Chiriches if we are going for a surprisingly good backup. There are 16 foreign players so there is space for 1 more.
I'd rather Isco over Dahood. If Fabihno is primarily a mid, then Heinrich or Perrerira as the starting RB and Isco over Dahood.Lacks at least one top quality CB. Probably Laporte.
Also not sure Fabinho would come here to convert back into a defender. Maybe as a back-up. But he is primarily a midfielder. Way too productive in midfield to convert into a defender full-time.
If we sign Fabinho and Dahoud. Not sure where you would find the space for Isco.
And that attack covers the wings very well. But lacks another quality striker.
Van Dijk is the CB if we intend on spending top dollar
Striker wise, the question is simply wether Jesus can replicate about 70% of Aguero's production. If he can, the rest of the team will make up the difference. I expect a serious jump in Sterling and Sane productions. Sure I'd hope that Aguero stays
Charlesfarsbar
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We would become the new Arsenal with that squad , loads of technical ability but not robust enough to ride the challenges that are presented over a premier league seasonAt the start of next season, if this is the squad we have, ill be more than pleased.
Attack
Sterling, 23, Sane 21, Coman 21, Jesus 20
Midfield:
Dihno 32, Silva 31, Gundogan 26, Debryune 26, Isco 25, Dahood 21, Garcia 20
Defense
Kolarov 31, Otamendi 29, Fabihno 23, Stones 22, Grimaldo 21, Heinrich 20, Maffeo 19,
Goalie
Bravo 34, Ederson 23, Gunn 21
16 foreign players plus 4 English players. And supplement with the youth team
We need a grizzled , battle hardened centre back who can play a bit - perhaps Bonucci
We also need more physicality in midfield, we dont need both Dahoud and Isco, replace one of then with someone with a bit more grit
Up front , we cant go into the season with a forward line as young as that, we need some experience , my preference would be a plan B centre forward who is good in the air. We have one of the best crossers of the ball in Europe , it would be a great weapon from the bench if we could bring on a striker who could get on the end of crosses
Robanompivenov
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At the start of next season, if this is the squad we have, ill be more than pleased.
Attack
Sterling, 23, Sane 21, Coman 21, Jesus 20
Midfield:
Dihno 32, Silva 31, Gundogan 26, Debryune 26, Isco 25, Dahood 21, Garcia 20
Defense
Kolarov 31, Otamendi 29, Fabihno 23, Stones 22, Grimaldo 21, Heinrich 20, Maffeo 19,
Goalie
Bravo 34, Ederson 23, Gunn 21
16 foreign players plus 4 English players. And supplement with the youth team
That squad is in dire need of a top class centre half! Not too much else I'd disagree with though!