Curious as to what you would have done about the CB situation last year. Would you have stumped the money for Maguire? If not who else would have been available that would be good enough and we could afford to buy?
Liverpool won’t add much they pulled out of Werner because they wouldn’t can’t meet the fee. They won’t keep the pace they’ve kept for the last two seasons with the same team every week. Like his Dortmund team it’ll catch up with them. Arsenal and united don’t concern me, neither will have money to burn nobody will. Liverpool will be our challengers but they aren’t 20 points better than us, just Laporte back cuts that by at least half.N i think utd will spend what ever (something we wont do but we may have to when replacing the lieks of Sergio, Ferna, Kompany) and Arsenal will just be better orgainsed so will improve - you have also failed to take into account Liverpool who are presently stronger than us and 20+ pts better than us and Chelsea
Has it helped them , or made them better than us?Regardless of the reason, they are able to attract our targets from us.
Has it helped them , or made them better than us?
Liverpool won’t add much they pulled out of Werner because they wouldn’t can’t meet the fee. They won’t keep the pace they’ve kept for the last two seasons with the same team every week. Like his Dortmund team it’ll catch up with them. Arsenal and united don’t concern me, neither will have money to burn nobody will. Liverpool will be our challengers but they aren’t 20 points better than us, just Laporte back cuts that by at least half.
It's really not that easy, there's so many things to consider in a potential new signing. Too many posters piss in the wind and throw out names of good players (I've been guilty of it myself), without knowing any background information on them, which is impossible for us know fuck all'ers.they were well aware of the need for a centre back last year but thought we could go with what we had - i would have thought it was pretty easy to see that one injury to Laporte would leave us exposed - Stones being at the very least inconsistent and Ottomendi being rash and generally pretty poor aint anything new - depsite ferna's pretty solid performances for most of it taking him then out of midfield with Rodri settling in didnt help and again was predictable - as was Rodri struggling at times playing as the single defensive midfielder and not having the mobilty to get around enough at times to do that......again all pretty predictable and lots on here said it
I love Pep and the Txixi et al for what they have done for this club BUT they are not infalable and they have made mistakes before so nothing is certain
Are you worried ? If a player chooses them over us at the moment with the way we play, the competitions we win with their manager over our manager over theirs, they aren’t for us and its a good test of their ambitions and priorities.Not yet.
But they have an advantage in head to head record with us recently.
Again you are assuming Pep and the club haven’t noticed any of this and are going to do nothing about it. There is no reason at to believe Pep a manager constantly striving for improvement and Txiki are blind to it and intent on doing nothing about it .Another injury to Laporte and w are back to where we are - we need to plan for this as it was a lack of forsight that got us into the situation of having to use Ferna as a back up centre half alongside a shit ottomendi - we are thin on the ground in that area and also still have the issue of no decent left back which adds to that issue on that side of the defence
Im torn on Mcgure tbh but looking at it very simply - is he better than Otto or Stones. - the answer is yes
As for who else - not sure but there have to be players out there _city have a scouting network that is world wide - I cant believe there aint centre havles better then Ottomendi out there - he should have gone 2 years ago at the very least - he has always been dodgy
Can’t believe some fans have more faith in Ed Woodwards transfer policy and skills than our own.So you have made Maguire the highest paid City player in history.
That is why we have professionals in the job.
Again you are assuming Pep and the club haven’t noticed any of this and are going to do nothing about it. There is no reason at to believe Pep a manager constantly striving for improvement and Txiki are blind to it and intent on doing nothing about it .
To think they aren't planning on improving on last seasons weaknesses you have very little faith in some of the best at their jobs in football.
Im torn on Mcgure tbh but looking at it very simply - is he better than Otto or Stones. - the answer is yes
As for who else - not sure but there have to be players out there _city have a scouting network that is world wide - I cant believe there aint centre havles better then Ottomendi out there - he should have gone 2 years ago at the very least - he has always been dodgy
We may well have made a mistake last year, exposed by Laportes injury. Even if we’d got a c.b though would we have beaten Liverpools total of possibly over 100 points doubtful. So it may not have cost us much anyway. I accept though not bringing in a centre back looks now like a mistake.Im not assuming they havent noticed - Im saying that if they did notice they failed/were un-prepared to do anything about it last season when it was claringly obvious
So you have made Maguire the highest paid City player in history.
That is why we have professionals in the job.
Fair enough if you think that. I just think sometime people think that overpaying for players just to get them in will solve everything. I think the way Pep feels is there will be another one, if he can't get his target and is prepared to wait. Just like Jorginho who was prepared to come, when he went to Chelsea we didn't panic buy, but waited. It's more about the structure of the club. Overpaying for transfers and paying huge wages to a player who's just come can cause problems in the long run i.e. Sanchez. You should earn the money by your performances playing like KDB and Sterling. If not it could cause unrest in the rest of the club.
When it comes down to it, the team as a whole need to play better as well and I think in time we will. We are in transition and Rodri in the middle will get better as time goes along. Same with other players. I try not to get clouded by results. We lost to a lot of teams we outplayed. Part of the reason is we didn't take our chances. Can't blame everything on the defence if we don't score as well.
Mental ain't it. Ppl still want ferna, laporte backed up by nico and garcia. Not only is that not an improvement but nico and ferna are another year older, another year slower. So what's the other option. Let's get bonucci!!! Wtf does that fix?I just love the insistence that Garcia AND THB are both going to be trusted next season as well a 35 year old Dinho to be the starter. Its just not going to happen. We need a starting CB not more young bench option CB's to push Garcia further down the pile
The same arguments you have for Jorginho is the same some had about Maguire. He's not the quickest. Maguire may seem on the surface better than Stones or Otamendi and you may think he's an automatic upgrade, I don't think it's as easy as that. Stones and Ota get ridiculed largely in part because of how we play. We play out from the back, a high line etc. I think if Maguire did come he'd make his fair share of mistakes in our system as well. People just see Maguire with United or Leicester and think he's better. I seen Maguire make mistakes with England. So he isn't 85mil better that's for sure.No thats why i said i was torn - he was overpriced i agree but he is also better than everyone else we currently have other than Laporte.
We are going to have to shell out an awful lot of money to get whoeever it is. I was against Jorginho to start with as thought he was way too slow. I like Rodri and think he is decent (and Ive raved about him after some matches but I do see that there is room for improvement and he needs to.
yes we missed chanecs but this tells you everything you nee to know - as it stands we have outsocred Liverpool but let in more goals than them so that says actually the real problem is defensively
We may well have made a mistake last year, exposed by Laportes injury. Even if we’d got a c.b though would we have beaten Liverpools total of possibly over 100 points doubtful. So it may not have cost us much anyway. I accept though not bringing in a centre back looks now like a mistake.
The post I replied to though suggested you think we won’t bring in a centre back this summer, and united and arsenal will improve beyond recognition. I guarantee we will bring one in maybe 2 and with Garcia stepping up and Laporte back we will be back to our best next season.
The same arguments you have for Jorginho is the same some had about Maguire. He's not the quickest. Maguire may seem on the surface better than Stones or Otamendi and you may think he's an automatic upgrade, I don't think it's as easy as that. Stones and Ota get ridiculed largely in part because of how we play. We play out from the back, a high line etc. I think if Maguire did come he'd make his fair share of mistakes in our system as well. People just see Maguire with United or Leicester and think he's better. I seen Maguire make mistakes with England. So he isn't 85mil better that's for sure.