Sunderland Vs City Post Match Thread

[Deleted member 58678]

Recently?! We have been making blunders since 2004! First Howard Wilkinson who lasted all of 5 minutes. Then Mick McCarthy game and bought players who would be out played in a pub league game like Phil Babb, Jeff Whitley and Gary Breen. My first ever season as a sc holder was the 15pt season. Roy Keane was found out in the PL. Then we had Bruce and O'Neill who we should have sued under the Trade Description Act. Experience?! Please! And the cherry on the cake was the day the lunatic got to run the asylum - Paolo Di Canio. Poyet got us to our first final since 1992 but neither Bruce, O'Neill, Di Canio or Poyet wouldn't know what a good player looked like if they were taken from behind by one. None of the players they bought could make a good XI. And now Dick Advocaat. Never rains but it pours.



We couldn't win a game with any manager or with any formation.



Spot on. Ellis, Dick and virtually every squad member needs to be sold. If you think Parick would be a good manager I am willing to try and entertain anyone. I am just desperate for us to turn things around and become good so we can stick it up the backsides of the media and press who laugh at us.

When you went down and went up by beating Bolton Wanderers, how did you cope with relegation and come back stronger?

We went down with a poor side but got Kevin Keegan in and gave him a load of money to bring in Benarbia (French Player of the Season the year before to come and play in what is now the Championship) Eyal Berkovic, Wanchope, Huckerby, Dunne (i'd go as far to say they were the best team ever in the second tier)...and then gave him a load more money the season after to sign Anelka, Foe and others.

 

[Terra Passenger]

Stay calm... and pass it to De Bruyne.

 

[Jack74]

Stay calm... and pass it to De Bruyne.

Only this

 

[lazza]

Christ on a bike. What on earth is all that nonsense in the last 10 pages? Did we play a game, or did I blunder into an EDS thread by mistake?

Well, I for one, give a shit about the League Cup. Well worth the trip down from north of the wall last night, and even if we were a bit lacklustre in the second half, I thought our team selection and tactics were spot on.

Not surprised to hear about the double A19/A1 closure - I've had that a lot coming home from Manchester in the last few months. Some nice tours around Middlesbrough's scenic housing estates at midnight don't make for a comfortable drive...

 

[JC2]

Christ on a bike. What on earth is all that nonsense in the last 10 pages? Did we play a game, or did I blunder into an EDS thread by mistake?

Well, I for one, give a shit about the League Cup. Well worth the trip down from north of the wall last night, and even if we were a bit lacklustre in the second half, I thought our team selection and tactics were spot on.

Not surprised to hear about the double A19/A1 closure - I've had that a lot coming home from Manchester in the last few months. Some nice tours around Middlesbrough's scenic housing estates at midnight don't make for a comfortable drive...

Any 'Boro'ist comments should be recognised ...... well done that man!

 

[niall'sdiscoshorts]

Pathetic and cowardly lineup from the manager saved by the ineptitude of Sunderland. Took him around 30 minutes of us being 4-0 up in a League Cup game to bring on any youth players which speaks to his overwhelming failure to utilize what is probably the most talented and stocked youth setup in the country.

Absolutely pathetic, will be glad to see the back of him.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
so what is it called now...... or is that it.

It's called the Dunning Kruger effect.

Essentially people don't recognise that he is an expert and presume to hold the same level of knowledge as him. So when they criticise decisions he has made (with the benefit of hindsight no less), they don't understand that there are variables around that led to that decision that they are not educated or trained enough to assess. Even more accurately, they do not see the inherent flaws in their own reasoning for the same reasons. People see it only on a superficial level.

It's great for the news media and for forums like this where people can endlessly chatter back and forth about decisions that were or were not made and how much of a difference it would or wouldn't have made but in reality there's no ability to have an intelligent or reasoned discussion because nobody is attempting to work out what those other variables were. We can't, we don't hold the information that Pellegrini holds on which he's based his decisions off.

It's the same in football. We see the teamsheet in front of us and immediately presume we know the reasons for it all, but we don't. We haven't watched the last 7 days worth of training, we haven't spoken to the players and understand them as men and psychological animals. We don't know what family distractions have gone on, or if they've played against a certain player before and know them or don't know them. We don't know what the game plan was, what the attitudes were, or why any of this happened. All we can do is speculate from a position of ignorance and a position of amateurs.

Page 102 of the Manuel Pellegrini thread

 

[Damocles]

It's called the Dunning Kruger effect.

The problem when you try to copy a clever post without understanding it is that you can sometimes massively misuse it because you didn't understand it in the first place, actually making you look stupider than if you would have just done nothing at all. What's the saying now? Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

You should probably read the thread as for the explanation.

 

[niall'sdiscoshorts]

The problem when you try to copy a clever post without understanding it is that you can sometimes massively misuse it because you didn't understand it in the first place, actually making you look stupider than if you would have just done nothing at all. What's the saying now? Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

You should probably read the thread as for the explanation.

The message is dont go saying you like and then when he does something you don't agree with spit your dummy out.

 

[paulchapo]

Not to mention their celebrations in front of the rags when we won the league :-)

Yes I love Sunderland fans they were great at Wembley and have had to put up with some shit over the years a bit like us. They need a decent owner and manager to fetch back that Roker roar.

 

[DelToro]

The problem when you try to copy a clever post without understanding it is that you can sometimes massively misuse it because you didn't understand it in the first place, actually making you look stupider than if you would have just done nothing at all. What's the saying now? Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

You should probably read the thread as for the explanation.

Oh come on Damo - niall turned you over fair and square there.

Man up and accept it - it was a great piece of posting.